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PS4: four profiles can be signed in on one console

Gamers will be able to use multiple accounts on the PlayStation 4 even at the same time

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TimeSkipLuffy4646d ago

What is the benefit to have different users logged in at the same time on the same console? :3

CustardTrout4646d ago

On the 360 you can split screen online which can be really fun; assume it'll be the same kind of idea

abzdine4646d ago (Edited 4646d ago )

@NightmareLuffy:
you can play multiplayer online game with a friend on the same console. No need to have up to 4 consoles and split the network to 4 if you're sitting together. That's at least how i understand it.

0ut1awed4646d ago (Edited 4646d ago )

The only problem is that most games are not supporting online splitscreen as time goes on. I can only imagine that will continue more so into next gen.

There will defiantly be games that have it but we will see how usefull this really is.

MazzingerZ4646d ago

You can do that on PS3 as well(co-op local sing in for instance Warhawk and LBP, I think Resistance 2 co-op allowed that as well, those the ones I recall right now...Trophies can't be earned by anyone but main account, though...it seems to be possible now on PS4

devwan4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

On ps3 it was the game title that allowed it, on ps4 it's a system feature across the board.

NukaCola4645d ago

Mazz

Every one earns trophies for LBP. Glad they added this. Will make Borderlands 3 better so my wife can earn trophies for her own account.

MazzingerZ4645d ago

@NukaCola
Ahhh nice! Didn't know that one, I guess when I played with my family had gotten most of those trophies
Thanks for the info!

mewhy324645d ago

This will be great. I do this now on Xbox360 with my kids and we have a blast. Now that we're moving to PS4 I'm glad to see that we'll be able to do the same. Just another example of Sony listening to the gamer.

SilentNegotiator4645d ago

They had better still allow "guests" in online play.

It would be BS if you were forced to use two paid accounts for splittscreen online multiplayer.

blennerville4645d ago

"On the 360 you can split screen online which can be really fun; assume it'll be the same kind of idea"

you can do that on PS3 in Uncharted 3.

my guess is its for remote play and stuff.

dragon824645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

@SilentNegotiator

They have said that only one account on the system needs to have PS+ and the rest of the accounts on that system will also be covered.

I believe the Xbox One is moving towards this system too.

BISHOP-BRASIL4645d ago

@Out1awed

Hopefully it can become more common now that both consoles are readily able to do it. I mean, PS3 could do that, but it was up to devs to implement it, now as long as it's a game that support local multiplayer, multiple sign-in should be a given.

miyamoto4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

nice.

XB1_PS44645d ago

I had no clue that this wasn't all ready a thing on PSN.

badz1494645d ago

Great feature especially for local coop and all 4 can get trophies

BallsEye4645d ago

@0ut1awed

Most of XO ms exclusives offer split screen campaigns etc...halo series offer 4 players split screen. Also many people logged into 1 console even in the dash have it's benefits. On 360 anyone logged in can switch to his/her own dashboard in a second and check friends list and so on. I have accounts for UK, US, Germany and Japan. Different stuff in dashboard, often different free games etc.

360ICE4645d ago

You can do that on PS3 too, but only in certain games (Starhawk, Resistance 2). I'm hoping for a more universal support this time around. Collecting trophies at a friend's house would be neat.

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Dark_Eternal4646d ago (Edited 4646d ago )

Presumably multiple users can also earn trophies that way, instead of just one person.

Boody-Bandit4646d ago

+well said

This is a much needed option. My son and I go head to head a lot in fighters and sports games. It sucked that only one of us could unlock trophies while doing so. This is great news.

listenkids4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

Let's hope so, many times I've missed out playing split screen games and the multiple account sign in for black ops 2 didn't award trophies :(

yellowgerbil4646d ago

My brother in law has a 360. Together we went into online games on CoD black ops 2 with me on a second account.
So there is a benefit, though nothing that is a game changer. Just another sign that sony is out to make the console as pro gamer as possible.

Hufandpuf4646d ago

Or as up to date as possible.

saber000054646d ago

@NightmareLuffy,

With-in each other's profile account is your friends list. I'm sure if, if you have a sibling or someone else that is sharing your PS4, you wouldn't want to be receiving messages from people you don't even know. I know I wouldn't XD

Also, your profile holds your game data (Gamer name, share streams, etc). So, that's a playstation plus..... See what I did there? ;)

TimeSkipLuffy4646d ago

but if 4 users are logged in into one console wouldn't you receive messages from all four on that console? :D

I see the benefit of multiplayer if the game support online multiplayer splitscreen and owning own trophies on local multiplayer games.

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MasterCornholio4646d ago

Multiplayer achievements.

Nexus 7 2013

Bundi4646d ago

When playing a multiplayer game, trophies can now be earned by any of the 2/4 players and not just the main profile.
Also for games like Fifa, it is nice to have controller settings already assigned to your preferences rather than having to make due with the primary profile settings or change them each time.

This is something that puzzled with the ps3, why did they limit it to just one profile per session when up to 7 people could play at the same time?

Welcome to 2005 Sony, glad you finally made it.

joeyisback4646d ago

Microsoft where was the blue ray player in the Xbox 360 welcome to 2006 Microsoft

Bundi4645d ago

That's why Microsoft aren't shouting it from the roof tops that they now have blu-ray, it's not something to write home about in 2013.

Being able to sign in multiple profiles is further perplexing because unlike blu-ray it isn't a hardware limitation. How they went an entire gen without catching up is a crime.

Kryptix4645d ago

That was because the XMB's base structure due to foreseeing RAM limitations wasn't designed to let multiple players sign in on their own profiles. But the work around was that in certain games like most notably Little Big Planet, they designed the in-game code to give the console the ability to do so.

The PS3 always had the ability to allow multiple accounts, it was just up to developer to add the feature in the game. So I'm glad now it's a feature that comes built with the console so developers can take full advantage of it adding splitscreen online and offline.

And what you mean with the last part; "Welcome to 2005 Sony, glad you finally made it."? You act like the Xbox 360 was more up to date than the PS3. Hmmmm, from what what I remember, the 360 in the beginning had no HDMI output, no wifi, controllers use disposable batteries, and no blu-ray. And with the new Xbox One, no removable hard drive and controllers still use disposable batteries. Honestly, the PS3 went with the times much better and we still use the new blu ray format after all that.

edgeofsins4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

We get it. You don't like Sony. Quit your complaining.

You're embarrassing.

You're one of the people that think Knack is last gen just because of it's art style after all.

Is something wrong with Sony one upping XBox all the time? Be mad at Microsoft. They have the assets and money. They just don't care. They don't understand you or other gamers. They only know casual and "hardcore"(To them any game with violence). Sony has both, variations of both, in between that, a mix of the two, everything right out of the gate with many coming later in 2014, much of which all they had to do was contact developers and offer free dev kits. Microsoft just shunned the industry, the consumers, and that resulted in shunning themselves. If you want to support some of the biggest ignorance of the industry with your own ignorance go ahead.

I don't find the brand bad, just the company.

Edit: And like Kryptix said. The console wasn't designed around it originally. They aren't compromising the biggest feature, gaming, by changing it around with an update that could affect its performance. That is why some games like Starhawk had in game music. It limits the developers freedom and gamers might get less because of it.

tiffac0084645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

Well we can clearly see the strength of MS when it comes to software programming and Sony when it comes to hardware manufacturing. This generation showed that to us.

What's important is that the weaknesses of the 360 and PS3 is now being tackled with the X1 and PS4.

SmoothC9114645d ago

@Bundi

Who the f was 'shouting it from the rooftops'? This article just stated a response to a question; there was no press release or major announcement

neoMAXMLC4645d ago

"That's why Microsoft aren't shouting it from the roof tops that they now have blu-ray,"

No, instead they're shouting from the rooftops that you can play games without being connected online. :P

kenshiro1004645d ago

You never give up, do you? What's sad is that people agreed with you.

Insomnia_844645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

That can be done with Little Big Planet and other games, just saying.

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KrisButtar4646d ago

So the different users could each earn trophies while playing Split Multiplayer. That would be my 1st reason

Sarick4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

Woah, my guess so you can have three others get TROPHIES while playing a multi-player game. On PS3 the only player who gets credit is the user who is active online.

Am I right?

Jazz41084645d ago

Wasnt trophies added after ms was successfull with achievements? They both copy one another is my point.

trenso14645d ago

in LBP you could sign in with multiple ids so whatever they earned while not playing on their account would be unlocked when they singed in.

ZBlacktt4645d ago (Edited 4645d ago )

Trophy boosting/player boosting.

GraveLord4645d ago

4-player local multiplayer in Call of Duty or any sports game I imagine.

DOMination-4645d ago

Each player can earn achievements

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt4645d ago

say you want to play split screen when yur boy is over, he can log into his account on yur ps4 with you and you can both level up on yur own accounts same with diablo 3

ion534645d ago

FarCry3 had the same feature for split screen co-op

abusador4645d ago

Wayyyyy before Farcry three this was done by Sonys first party studios such as resistance 2, uncharted 3, etc...... Once again Sony was the first to have this feature and ppl try to give credit elsewhere lol

StoutBEER4645d ago

PS3 didn't have this capability? That sucks. Glad they are changing that. Nothin like sittin around witha few friends on a lazy sunday dickin about in Halo customs. :3
Copied you're face Nightmare cause I liked it XD

abusador4645d ago

Wayyyyy before Farcry or any other game this was done by Sonys first party studios such as resistance 2, uncharted 3, etc...... Once again Sony was the first to have this feature and ppl try to give credit elsewhere lol

BoriboyShoGUN4645d ago

@ Abusador, While I am a Playstation Fan you sir are wrong the 360 had this at launch! I always wondered how the PS3 didnt have it but wasnt too concerned since I was the only one logging in on the PS3 anyways. But seeing from some of the post I guess it was up too individual developers on the PS3 to make it happen! I guess I just never noticed!!

iPad4645d ago

Hopefully on PS4, you don't need to quit the game and head back to the XMB just to switch accounts.

I loved that about Xbox LIVE. You can switch accounts in-game.

mickaelmc4645d ago

Lots of benefits. Leveling up, personal loadouts, trophies, infinite record keeping stats, lots.

MuhammadJA4645d ago

So Sony can brag later that she has more online users! XD

hellzsupernova4645d ago

This for me was the biggest misstep of the ps3
With the trophy system some games wouldn't let you sign in and you didn't get trophies with your buddies. Sure a few games let you eventually but it was always a let down

ziggurcat4645d ago

say, in littlebigplanet, you could have 4 different profiles playing MP instead of one profile plus 3 guests. each person playing could earn their own trophies that way as well.

pixelsword4644d ago

@ zigg;

Sorry, I didn't see this particular post when I made my comment answering Nightmare, or else I would have merely agreed with yours.

...Which I just did. :)

Elimin84645d ago

do it for the VITA! PLSE?!

kingPoS4645d ago

Ever play a fout player co-op game of warhawk only to wish everyone involved could gain experience and level up.

Instead of...

[Joe] psn
[Joe2]
[Joe3]
[Joe4]

It could be...

[Joe] psn
[Bob] psn
[Sam] psn
[Tom] psn

pixelsword4645d ago

If you get a trophy, it goes to your account?

ziggurcat4645d ago

that is likely the case, yes, if you're signed into your own account.

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Mikelarry4646d ago

it only makes sense as you can only use 4 controllers at one time on the ps4

saber000054646d ago

I think 4 profiles are more than enough. How many house holds really have more than 4 people playing games? :P

soniqstylz4645d ago

Not that anyone used it, but the PS3 allowed up to 7 players.

pixelsword4645d ago

People with more than four children, maybe?

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towelie12884646d ago

ps3 already had that...
try again

Sarick4645d ago

This is new to me. Please explain how multiple players can log on PSN using a single PS3 at the same time. I'm very interested in knowing how to do this.

I'd like to play a few multi-player Tales of games and have partners win trophies with me.

awesomeperson4645d ago

I think he misunderstands the premise of what this does.

I think towelie is referring to the profiles you can select (at the left of the XMB), each tied to another account. Which is, of course, different to signing on with 1-4 accounts on a single profile.

dragon824645d ago

LittleBigPlanet 1 & 2
Warhawk
Resistance 2
Borderlands 2

These are a few games that allowed you to log in with multiple accounts that the same time on PS3. It was up to the developer to program the feature into the game itself.

Bundi4645d ago

Nope. Not even close. One profile per session. You have to log out to use other profiles. Annoying when playing offline multiplayer games.

Mikefizzled4646d ago

Nothing new 360 had this from launch and I'm would of thought that PS3 did something similar. Hell the One can have 8 controllers connected at once which would take sports games to ridiculous levels of complexity.

bahabeast4646d ago

360 did it but you all needed live gold on the ps3 we can play with all those peeps from one free online play profile soo IMO ps3 still wins.

Mikefizzled4645d ago

So by your logic PS3 > Ps4 & Xbox One as you don't need to pay for multiplayer on PS3

LogicStomper4645d ago

Nope, Halo has always allowed guests of a profile to play online in conjunction with the account-holder.

dragon824645d ago

@Mikefizzled

The difference is that the PS4 and XB1 only require a single account to pay for online and the other sub accounts are covered free of charge.

360 required "each" account to pay for Gold in order to play online in split screen.

PS3 allows multiple accounts to be signed in at the same time for free across the board. The only difference is it was left up to the developers to include the feature in their games.

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awesomeperson4645d ago

Not meaning to diminish your hopes, but the PS3 could have up to 7 I think controllers connected at once. Very few games took advantage of it, and although some people might have, I never heard anyone actually using the feature.

It would be nice for sport-game-parties or the like, but it's a feature you soon forget about.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted41d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8541d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele41d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk40d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay40d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit40d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg40d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10140d ago (Edited 40d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14941d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_54d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle54d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit54d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog54d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog54d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad54d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_54d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage54d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda54d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong80d ago

looks god awful on the base systems