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Retrospective: Final Fantasy VIII

BNR: There are many opinions on the subject of ‘When Final Fantasy games were good’. I sit comfortably in the PSX demographic and believe that Final Fantasy VII and VIII are two of the best JRPGs ever made. Over the years, Final Fantasy VII has stolen much of the well-deserved limelight that the franchise has earned and rightly so. It stands out to as a masterpiece in RPG gaming. Yet I always felt that VIII was slightly underrated. Being the first Final Fantasy game I actually owned it has always been my favorite and here’s why.

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zero_gamer4647d ago

Quite underrated. I am actually in the mood of popping it in my PS3 right now!

ecstaticpunk4647d ago

Absolutely loved this game as a teenager my favorite game in the series shame shit hit the fan and now we're stuck with FF XIII and a fetish for Lightening really hope FF XV turns out to be a lot better.

-Foxtrot4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

Best FF in the series

Best character development (Squall), best soundtrack, best intro etc

You know how this game got a lot of hate (still does unfortunately) because it's NOT a FF7 sequel well this is undeserved hate unlike FF13 which was well deserved.

Seriously all the complaints about this game are nitpicks

Draw System - You didn't even have to draw in battle and you would still have a ton of magic at the end of the game. Pink draw points, refine magic with the GF junction skill, Island of Heaven and Hell.

Junction System - One minute it's "the system is too complicated" then in the next sentence it's "It's too easy to max out your character with the junction system". So is it hard or easy lol

Squall - He is not an emo, he's a bit of a jerk at the start of the game only because it's part of the fantastic character development we see over the course of the four discs. Each disc his character changes, to a lonely selfish jerk to a brave heroic leader. He doesn't just turn with a click of the fingers you see how he changes through the story. Plus his background for being a jerk is explained and justifies his characters attitude at the start of the game

Story plotholes - What FF game does not have plotholes or problems...come on

Becuzisaid4647d ago

Would you like to add any more edits, or are you good now?

-Foxtrot4647d ago

If I didn't you'd be calling me for spelling/grammar mistakes

Did you really waste a bubble to say that, I mean really. How sad

I_am_Batman4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

Undiserved hate or not you'll just have to accept that some people disliked the game. There is no right or wrong it comes down to personal taste. I for one loved FFVIII. It's probably my favorite FF (though I can't decide between the PSOne era games).

I really liked FFXIII too and I don't care that everybody is hating on it.

That's just how it is. Sometimes I don't get the hype for a critically acclaimed game and sometimes I enjoy a game that everybody seems to hate.

-Foxtrot4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

I think you'll find the majority of people on the internet these days (and FF8 has been out for years making it so you see a lot on the forums and face to face convos) always point out the nitpicked stuff when talking about FF8. Most of it just seems like follow the leader stuff in my opinion. If they hate the game fine just say "I hate FF8" but they don't they come up with these nitpicked reasons people said like when it came out, disappointed with the fact it wasn't a FF7 sequel.

Yeah people hate it I'm not saying that but if you hate it don't come up with silly excuses which have been going around the internet for years.

Plus I'm sorry but FF13 was bad, and I mean like really bad. That is a game where the complaints aren't nitpicks or can be justified the game is actually terrible for a FF game. If you like it fine but people shouldn't try to defend it because you honestly can't.

Hicken4647d ago

I'd say X has the best soundtrack(and my favorite video game character of all time in Rikku), but in all other areas, I think VIII is the best in the series.

As for plotholes, there aren't really any. There are some questions left unanswered, but that's not the same as a plothole.

-Foxtrot4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

I was actually referring to the fact, for example, that people go on about how Doctor Odine doesn't just destroy the Junction Machine Ellone that Ultimecia uses in the future instead of the SeeD going into the future to defeat her. Among other silly nitpicked things

"There are some questions left unanswered, but that's not the same as a plothole."

Thats unfortunately what these people go on about, things which we don't need to know but decide to point it out and turn it into a bad thing to make the story overall look "bad"

I_am_Batman4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

So you are saying that people come up with excuses to dislike the game although they have no reason to do so? Interessting. But keep in mind that people are different and they have different tastes (which is actually a good thing). Maybe it's nitpicking for you but it can be a real issue for others. I agree with you though that the game would've probably been recieved differently when it wouldn't have come after FFVII. That's the price of expectation I guess.

And you don't need to apologize for saying that FFXIII is bad. Like I said in my first reply: I don't care that people dislike it. I don't want to know the reasons why everyone dislikes it. And I certaintly don't want to defend the game either. I like it - you don't. I can perfectly live with that.

Off topic: n4g really needs a better reply system.

wishingW3L4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

FF8 was my first FF game and I probably love it just because of that but the plotholes, the weak character development, the broken junction system... Those are all legit complaints.

Do you remember a single turning point for Squall as a character? Well, me neither because there were none. His change of attitude was all forced and out of the blue. The plothole about their amnesia? There is no coherent explanation and this is just 1 of many. The broken junction system? Can you deny the infinite limit breaks, really? And this is just 1 of the many problems with the battle system, because you could even break it enough to beat every boss in the game in just 1 turn.

I_am_Batman4646d ago

I'm not sure if you are talking about the same game that I've played. There is an explanation for the amnesia. It comes from using the G.F.

And what do you mean with infinite limit breaks? I don't think that you can beat every boss in one turn. Can you explain what you mean?

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Becuzisaid4647d ago

I always switch back and forth between this being my favorite or FF9. This game is purely amazing sauce.

The only reason it's not my absolute, no question favorite of the series is the drawing system. I generally start a game by quickly doing the Ifrit trial, and then grinding along the Balamb beaches and stocking up on Thunder, Fire, Ice and Cure to 100 each. Takes like 1-1.5 hours for me to do this and then I start the Dollet mission. I'm sure someone will tell me I should just skip drawing and refine magic using the GF abilities, but I've been playing FF8 this way since I was 12.

MightyNo94647d ago

I play it almost the same way. And there might be faster ways to do stuff but meh,I play my own way. xD

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FINAL FANTASY VII + VIII, IX, and VII REMAKE INTERGRADE & REBIRTH To Receive Physical Releases

Square Enix has announced multiple classic Final Fantasy titles will receive physical releases this December;including Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX.

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gold_drake236d ago

switch only for 7 8 and 9

remake and rebirth ps5

S2Killinit234d ago

7,8,9 only Switch
7 remake & rebirth only PS5?
Is this accurate? Wish it was all for both.

-Foxtrot236d ago

Why can’t they just do a cool classic collection with VII, VIII and IX in with some goodies similar to what they did with the Pixel Remaster.

FinalFantasyFanatic234d ago

I would honestly go for a Remaster Collection, just AI upscale some textures (there are really good fan mods for that), widescreen everything where possible, higher native resolution, etc...

It seems like a no-brainer to make such a large portion of what was FF's golden age into a collection of it's own.

gold_drake233d ago

this is square we're talking about.

VersusDMC235d ago

Weird that 7 and 8 are together for 40 and 9 is 40 on it's own.

8 should be the one on it's own as it actually has redone models.

jznrpg234d ago (Edited 234d ago )

I have ff8 ps4 remastered physical euro version. They should have put these on PS5 physically so lame.

B5R234d ago

I'm actually so tired of hearing about FFIX. Just replayed it with Moguri Mod earlier this month. That might as well be the definitive version.

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Broken Games That Never Got Fixed

While a lot (like way too many) games launch in sorry states these days, a lot of them do eventually get polished up over time fixes. The same can’t be said for these properly broken games.

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Cacabunga296d ago

Worst for me is wipeout 2048.
I got gold in every single player race, made it extremely far into the great online shop platinum was a finger away.. then lost all my online progression. Many players experienced the same and hadn’t been fixed since

joab777297d ago

Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky are obviously the 2
best comeback stories. Cyberpunk is literally one of the best RPGs ever made now.

Christopher296d ago

I wouldn't call NMS broken at release, just under-delivered.

Michiel1989297d ago

junctioning is only broken now because it's been datamined which monster which gives which card and which card gives which items and every single spell to junction with the highest points for each stat. For it's time when that info wasn't readily available it was good, not without it's flaws, but not broken,

-Foxtrot297d ago

Exactly. I never got this because what made it broken was the knowledge of what to exploit.

Playing the game for the first time back then you never had any knowledge to make it so easy.

One minute the Junction system is complicated, the next it's super easy / broken. What is it?

gold_drake296d ago

i mean, ff8 is not "broken" per se, its just that the junction system is too good and easily exploited even an hour into the game. haha

Ashunderfire86296d ago

Star Wars Jedi Survivor is one of them. I can’t get in the Cantina bar later on in the game. The door and other doors throughout the environment is locked off. It is a shame, because I wanted to complete the game, but I can’t until they fix it.

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Playstation Icons: Squall Leonhart

Gary Green said: Tempting as it is to dedicate our first installment of PlayStation Icons to a franchise-leader like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, or even Sackboy, instead I’m choosing a character that I, like so many others, connected with on a personal level. He’s a moody, world-weary teen, a proud loner with no time for the drama of others, and yet he’s also a hero just waiting for the motivation to unleash his full potential. He’s a warrior. He’s a leader. He’s the king of internal monologues. It’s time to meet Squall Leonhart.

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