No Forced Camera
No DRM under patched lock and key.
Less Money
More 1st Party Studios
More Pre-Orders
More Powerful

I would say Greatness Awaits, but now that is almost like telling someone, Geico can save you 15% on car insurance.

Powa of teh cloud
ten billion transister
300000 server
% 10 cpu boost.
kinect
made by rocket scientists

the winner is............still the ps4

So Major Nelson was telling the truth that XB1 is not 30% slower than the PS4. It's 50% slower.

We've known this the whole time. With PS4's superior GDDR5 RAM and GPU combined, how is this not to be expected? The problem is that Xbox fanboys are very hopeful that Major Nelson, a Microsoft spokesperson, is going to be honest. Every claim that we've heard about PS4 being more powerful has come from developers that Sony doesn't even own.

Yes we have known it. For ages. And tried to tell people that denied it or didn't believe it. Microsoft's damage control has been in effect.

Its not a secret. But this guy is another legit source and just opened that can of worms big time. 2

Dat can....

A dev just confirmed what we all knew, that Microsoft is selling an inferior console for 100$ more than a superior PS4.

I don't think we'll be able to tell now, but down the line when second year titles come out for PS4 and Xbox One, it's gonna get real obvious who has the 50% speed advantage.

Not very surprising....

Eat it bitches lol jk

Shots fired BANG BANG! ;)

I wonder if Major Nelson is still looking forward to the truth coming out...?

@JohnnyBadfinger - If it was all about dev time, would he have talked about maxing out the consoles or gimping a particular version in the name of parity? I don't think so.

He (Adrian) goes on to explain its only interms of developing time... Which makes sense as the layout of the ps4 is straight forward no fancy loops to jump through like the x1. But he stated the overall performance is the same.
He claimed nothing about the console being 50% more powerful in performance only development time. Which is a no brainer. X1 has made the same mistake as the ps3 and they have tried to get all fancy and just made things too difficult. The curse of the 3rd I guess

@mystic
He never said one version would be gimped just that the x1 would take more time to develop for compared to the ps4... But yes he did say if it were you'd never know about it. And it's in the link don't just disagree because it doesn't suit your agenda

Calm down John Boy. I read the link and I didn't hit disagree. He didn't use the word "gimp", he used the word "cripple", and of course you wouldn't know if they went for parity. Come on man...

This put to rest the dGPU rumors. The proof is right there. If you want graphics PS4 is the best bet, that or a high end pc

So not only is PS4 50% more powerful, but it's also the easier to develop for platform. Playstation domination is back baby!

@ JohnnyBadfinger

He clearly stated 50% more powerful, not 50% faster development time (even though it will obviously be faster to develop for PS4 over X1 as well) lol. I can't believe you misinterpreted that or maybe you're just being ignorant.

Like I said, Xbosh and Mehjurr Pelsuhn need to try harder.

Poor JohnnieB.

@JohnnyBadfinger

I did read the post you're talking about but I'm going to clarify it for everyone.

http://t.co/E3wJjwWb3M

He does say in his clarification that development time is 50% faster on the PS4 but in his Twitter post he also states that the PS4 is more powerful spec wise.

https://twitter.com/adrianc...

By how much? That isn't cleared yet. The way it's stated is that the PS4 is more powerful so it gets developed on first then the platform with the weaker hardware gets worked on second to match the more powerful hardware graphically with optimizations.

"...they take extra time for super-extra optimizations on the weaker hardware to make sure things look the same as on the more powerful platform." -Adrian

The one with the weaker hardware, Xbox One, needs to be optimized to match the PS4 graphic wise. Rememeber, Adrian already stated that the PS4 is the more powerful console so development time is much faster. Basically stating that for 3rd party games, the PS4 will be the lead platform.

We still don't know by how much percentage is the PS4 more powerful but this does confirm that the PS4 is not only more powerful than the Xbox One but will be the lead platform for most 3rd party games. Remember how Xbox 360 3rd party games looked better because it was the lead console most of the time? Well, it's changed up now, the PS4 will look better and have better frame rates because the way it works...once the weaker console looks playable, the powerful console does get extra optimizations at the end depending on the extra time given. And this time, there's no complexity involved with development.

Truth...

@rewardedone

"And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform." -Adrian

During that time, the weaker platform was considered the one with the more complex and difficult to develop hardware. Even with the PS3's Cell being more powerful, developers have stated that the tools to work with on the PS3 were weak and difficult to use. It took time to workaround the flaws, but as stated from both sides with the PS4 and Xbox One...Sony and Microsoft are working on making both consoles easy to develop for. But this whole article does confirm that the PS4 has better tools to work with or the console is just a beast so all the focus is on it.

It's different now. Weakness is now mostly measured with how powerful the graphics and RAM is, and the PS4 is showing that it's winning on the hardware side.

Guys, I'm worried.I haven't seen Jokes, Negative and many others.
OT. Nothing we didn't know before, otherwise MS wouldn't have made all those " power of the cloud" statements to cover their less powerful console

He isn't the first developer to say this.
Epic Games themselves say it's better on PS4.

It doesn't matter at all to me as long as sony has those great devs.

By the way if you have a min please go upvote this it's getting downvoted to hell by all the xbox fanboys over there. Thnx!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Gam...

I don't understand why its even a debate to begin with. The hardware specs alone already told the full story.

The amount of steam behind the PS4 has generated a small cloud above Xbox headquarters..... It is only a matter of time before the Xbox one suddenly gets plastered on every Starbucks cup, burger king bag, google searches that are unrelated, YouTube commercial, and MSNBC's top story on the Xbox one... Without a good tag line because all in one input one just leaves you wondering how one hdmi input is enough when most TVs have 2-3 installed standard.

How many times does this need to be said before it will be put to rest? Sony doesn't even have to try to say it anymore, it's been said that much.

So...

The power of the cloud was actually the ability to hide facts behind techno-jargon?

That "cloud" is actually a smoke-screen.

I believe that's the problem with most of you.

No body ever contested the speed difference, except some fanboys...

The true argument was, would it make any difference that it would lead PS4 to be better between either console?! NO!

As he had further stated it, without damage control even still sticking to his claim of what he heard.

You guys are now piss celebrating all over each other without anything relevant to state that has already been stated.

So clean yourselves off, because it hasn't even started yet. Outside of this contested sweaty smog hole of a site filled with insecure "little men", it's a long run!

Mark this post, PS4 is not going to do so good after launch.

Hit me up when I told you so!

@pixelswod

It's simple...the hasn't started yet!

My gosh you guys are thick in the head.

I don't trust devs when it comes to talking positive about PS4 when comparing against the X1

I trust more MSFT reps, Major Nelson regarding positive comments about X1 not for nothing all that flow of positive news about X1 comes from MSFT itself:S

Now leaving behind sarcarsm, the PS4 is more powerful, that's a fact and not just a little but also faster to develop for, PS2 devs times which means more cost effectiv dev times that can reflect in some small devs developing only for PS4 and some other releasing first on PS4 and X1 later when done

Those dev times was part of the success of PS2, many crap games indeed but also amazing gems!

I knew Nelson and people with him won't help.

Anyways always PS4 is awesome. ;)

Can't wait to check comments from Xbox fanboys' response.

But da cloud, directx and 300,000 dedicated server. xD

Even if PS4 is inevitably the more powerful console, didn't MS ask for identical performance for multi-plat titles previously? I don't want MS to go away completely but they need to focus more on their products rather than forcing restrictions on developers just to "level" the playing field. Until then I refuse to support them as a gamer.

oh, wow

As major Nelson said,only a matter of time till the truth comes to light,and you guys see the Xbox one is weak.

You claim to be neutral in all this console war crap theWB27 but you seem to be defending MS in every comment you ever make and then pretned you are trying to keep balance or some other crap, the ps4 is more powerful the devs say so, even MS themselves say that the ps4 is more powerful but they think they have the edge on software, just stfu and get over it, its done and dusted the ps4 has the better hardware and its 100% fu@king fact now.

Your crazy and not smart. All of these developers work for both companies. They want to keep the money train coming in. They will not offend either company by stating which console is more powerful. (PS4)

This just like the statement AMD made about which console had the advantage.(PS4) They retracted the statement because they want to continue getting M$ business.

Now you won't see a difference in multiplates because they don't want upset a certain company (M$)

Okay. You're crazy.

1st link: Kojima himself says NOTHING about the power. It's implied from the article, but not actually said.

2nd link: Carmack doesn't say anything about power, again. And he even admitted he hadn't done any "rigorous benchmarking."

3rd link: Pretty irrelevant, given it says nothing about power differences between the consoles.

4th link: Again, NOTHING is said about the difference in the power of the two consoles. And that they say the XB1 will be similar to the PS4 version is probably due more to the engine being scalable than anything else.

A bunch of links that didn't prove ANYTHING. Good job!

Stop wasting your time trying to defend the xbone. It's outrageously funny how you guys deny factual GPU-Teraflop difference between both. Obviously as the guy said; the ps4 is stronger !

he mentions watch dog and AC devs but to this day i haven't seen those games running on the xone so please explain that shit, ubisoft has been praising the ps4 left and right.
WB you are a die hard xbot just admit it than calling yourself neutral, u write paragraphs defending the xone so who are you fooling what do u want Microsoft to come on stage and say their console isn't stronger because that's not gonna happen they don't need you to defend them left and right like you made the console.

@Enemy
"Those 50% claims haven't come from 1st party developers though."

"Multiplatform developers that get paid to be neutral. Good job with your argument, WB."

Both are from quotes from you.

So I don't get it....when they say it's a big difference then it's a fact but when it's stated by other devs it's minimal it's because they can't strain the relationship between Sony and Micro.

Basically it's this...if it's a big enough difference stated by some 3rd party devs and Sony to enable chest thumping then it's golden, bulletproof info. Cannot be refuted and deal with it.

When it's stated it isn't much of a difference at all by other devs and Micro then it's damage control and wrong....face it it's inferior etc etc.

Ok....got it.

This guy doesn't work for Sony, WB. In fact, go ahead and find one link where a 1st party Sony developer claims 50% advantage favoring PS4. All the claims have come strictly from hardware comparisons. Everything is right there, written, on paper. It's evidence.

If Microsoft wasn't worried, why would they suddenly feel the need to clock up CPU/GPU? Unfortunately, it's too late to match PS4's specs. Microsoft underestimated Sony's plan and it backfired. This'll teach'em not to next time. The end.

Most of them are under nda so they didn even explain much becuz they cant