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Unity support for Xbox One will ensure devs can "go crazy" with the hardware

The forthcoming Unity game creation tools for Xbox One will resemble those for Xbox 360, Unity Technologies CEO David Helgason has told OXM, but that doesn't mean that developers won't be able to make use of the console's swankier capabilities.

Dakriz4631d ago

Good news indeed I wonder why gamers claim ps4 superior. And developers cosmetic ecstasy over the hardware lol. Word of the day Ecstasy lol

XabiDaChosenOne4631d ago

Because of the superior hardware?

warewolfSS4631d ago

Pissed?

Relax man. More devs than not have said their closer than you would think.

mewhy324631d ago

Well Dak, gamers claim PS4 is superior to the bone because it is. Duh. If you know anything about hardware then you wouldn't have to ask that question. Here's a word of the day..."Specifications&quo t;.

Hercules1894631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

Is a 400hp porche about equal or greater than a 700 hp corvette, yes. So before anybody swings their teraflops around just think about that. Microsoft has stuff in their hardware that can make the 1.3 teraflops seem much much more larger than it appears, ex: cloud, dx11.2, hypervisor, etc.

XabiDaChosenOne4631d ago

@Herculez Are car analogies the stupidest argument since the "power of the cloud"? Think about that.

CrimsonStar4631d ago

On paper ps4 is apparently stronger , but what I've seen so far the xbox1's games look better .

XabiDaChosenOne4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

@Herculez Onion bus, unified architecture, huma, OpenGl, the cloud. The PS4 has alot in it that makes that 1.84 much much more.... Oh, look at that, I can regurgitate vague theoretical performances too!

Ultra4631d ago

All fanboys don't need to be afraid letting other gamers to buy their personal console/game of choice. It's not like he/she asked your advice or something, so don't bother for something you're not invited to.

Stop being afraid of others spending their money on their favorite console, because their money is not your business. Unless you're somekind of salesmen pretending to be gamers here on N4G.

strifeblade4631d ago

@kobe

All the customizations point to msoft having the advantage in customizations vs playstation.

All the buses in playstation are 20gb while x1 buses are 30gb. The ram in x1 is lower latency while sony's is 176gbps vs 140-150gbps on the x1. The cpu in x1 is clocked higher and is therefore stronger than playstation by 10%. The gpu is better than x1 but not 50% thats theoretical and if you wanna talk theoretical then msofts ram has a larger bandwidth than gddr5 lol. Overall the systems are going to be closer than you think/ not to mention x1 audio processors have been touted above sony's. And on top of all that there are specs still unrevealed in x1.

XabiDaChosenOne4631d ago

" And on top of all that there are specs still unrevealed in x1."
"The cpu in x1 is clocked higher and is therefore stronger than playstation by 10%"
So let me get this straight, Sony has not releases the clock speeds of it's CPU yet you some how come to the conclusion that the Xbox one has a 10% advantage over the PS4s CPU yet Sony has not released the clockspeed numbers for the PS4 yet. But apparently the PS4s GPU is not 50% more powerful because the Microsoft has not released all of it's specs yet? Interesting, your cookie cutter arguments and half truths bore me. Try harder.

UnholyLight4631d ago

I think a better use of the car analogy would be that numbers and specs on paper are totally different from what the actual physical outcome of seeing what these things can do is!

I find it hard to say the PS4 is so much stronger due to the fact that yes DriveClub looks amazing but Forza 5 looks amazing as well!

HiddenMission4631d ago

@Hercules189

Dude you tried quoting the MS PR guy's statement from the REV3 interview...he is a tool and now you come off as one too.

strifeblade4631d ago

@kobe

You do know that all the rumored and leaked specs for sony's machince point to a 1.6 ghz cpu and an 800 mhz clocked gpu due to its size, cooling system, and power brick being inside the box. Sony's cooling solution will now allow their chips to be clocked higher unless you want the ps4 to sound like a jumbo jet engine. The 50% more powerful is theoretical... you do understand that right? Just because it has 6 more cus does not mean its 50% more powerful as it stands right now- thats like me saying ddr3 has higher bandwidth than gddr5- theoretical means nothing its all about real world applications. You see the games? Most sources have not been describing games as 50% better looking on ps4 lol. There have also been rumours that some of the 6 extra cus may be used for cpu operations lol. Microsoft announced 15 extra processors and 2 of those processors are unknown to us of their functionality. They have 8gb of flash ram to assist os and app loading and all this info is new since the hot chips and on top of all that there are still sub systems yet to be revealed.

Yeah my half truths don't impress you because they scare you, your scared because the only touted advantage for sony which is the hardware may not be so much of an advantage after all. But you can still brag about the price right? lol

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Tooly4631d ago

It is superior This article is just statinq that devs can dev easly go crazy

YNWA964631d ago

No disputing the power of PS4, now everything is in the hands of developers to deliver great games... Thats all I want... on both systems...

CrimsonStar4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

I don't see it ._. , in all honesty I would rank the best looking games in order starting with ...
1st Forza
2nd Ryse
3rd Killzone

Whitey2k4631d ago

@crimsob shut up killzone is graphically more then Forza and Ryse

iamgoatman4631d ago

@Whitey2k

Yeah, I heard Killzone has 12 graphics but Forza and Ryse only have 7 and 5 graphics, respectively. Big difference.

abusador4631d ago

You do know that the lil bumps here and there via upclocks and the cool pr talk dont change the fact Ps4 is still thee superior system.

This is just more pr talk as usual trying to paint an awesome picture of something that is lacking in many departments. Youll see alot more of this everyday :)

Besides hardware you do know Sony has thee most first party talented devs in the industry right? So your right it isnt about hardware but when your going against the likes of Guerilla games, Santa Monica studios, Sony Japan Studios, Media Molecule and Naughty Dog you just wont win talking about software coming because they are the best and are on Sonys side.

UnHoly_One4631d ago

Sony has some great developers, no doubt, but there is more to a console than the exclusive games. I wish Sony fans would come up with a better argument to support the system they love so much.

Here is the point I am trying to make. Out of ALL the games released for the PS3, how many of them were exclusives? Less than 1%, I'm guessing?

So, you are basing your console of choice on that 1% of games, correct?

Well maybe I'm nuts, but the reason I loved the 360 so much was that it handled the 99% WAY better than the PS3 did. Better controller, better online service, etc...

Seems like an easy choice to me, and it's also something I don't see changing for the next gen. Supposed power differences aside, the Xbox controller and Xbox Live service is going to make the XB1 the better choice (for me) for all "99%" of those multiplats.

Meaning just like last gen, my Sony console will be used for a couple weeks every six months or so when I want to play an exclusive.

abusador4631d ago

Unholy im sorry you feel my argument isnt valid but unlike other ppl most of my time is spent gaming on first party exclusives. My go to mp game currently is TLOU (an exclusive) and before that it was starhawk and Uncharted 2, also mlb the show. Ive spent hundreds of hours on Demon Souls and the only other game that is multiplat that ive spent as much time on is Dark Souls. At least 80% of my time is spent on the first party games i love, not multiplats. I find games like Assn Creed overated and boring, played Max Payne SP which i thought was good but dropped it bcus mp was just ok. Didnt care for Farcry 3 and i feel the same way about alot of other multis. I do play a good amount of Bf3 and COD but like i said most of my time is spent on 1st party Sony games!

Also your argument about multiplat games and looking better on Xbox 360 is a moot one as the architecture this time is similar and that will not be the case. Xbox 360 multiplat games did not look better for the most part because Xbox was better but because devs couldnt properly develop for the cell. If anything Sonys first party games against Xbox 360 games show which system was more powerful. Your comment that you dont see the multiplat situation changing is funny as hell as given the fact that moving forward due to Ps4 superior specs but similar architecture to Xbox one the question is whether or not Xbone multi games will perform as good as ps4 versions :)

If you game mostly multiplat then i can see why last gen you chose Xbox 360, although the differences were minimal in most games and Sony even had a few multis that were better on Ps3. Going in to this gen Ps4 has the advantage of not only having similar hardware and architecture so multiplats will look as goo but also superior tech behind it that can cause multis to perform better on ps4, thats just my take on it (and many many others :))

walkincarpet4631d ago

last time I checked Guerilla makes B shooters compared to Halo and other AAA FPS. LBP was cool and creative... and boring. Infamous boring, but I heard Infamous 2 was a huge improvement. Naughty Dog games rock. Sony has good devs but Sony fan boys definitely over hype them. My favorite exclusive was Demon Souls but now the sequels are on Xbox. Naughty Dog is the only one still holding my attention on the PS side, while there are several on the Xbox side.

UnHoly_One4631d ago

It's not that your argument isn't valid, it's just not a very realistic scenario for most people.

Most people don't play ONLY exclusive Sony games, or ONLY exclusive Xbox games, so not taking the multiplats into consideration is not painting the whole picture.

I'm not sure I believe that multiplats will look better on the PS4 this gen either. I mean, Ryse already looks better than anything on the PS4, so I'm not convinced of this huge power difference.

But regardless, even if they do look better or run a few frames a second smoother, it won't be enough to outweigh the controller advantage and the Xbox Live advantage, so it really doesn't matter.

I will own both consoles day one. And I will play my first PS4 game whenever infamous comes out. Aside from that, it's all XB1 for me.

abusador4631d ago

walkingcarpet...

Really? lol GG made Kz2 and you better check again its metacritic review which was better than most halo games.... So that convo is ended and Kz3 may have not rated as high but still did good. And both look better than any halo game.

Unholy.....

Ryse? are we talking about the same game? that is utter crap gameplay wise and Kz Sf and Second Son totally annihilate? Man seriously if you think Ryse looks better than Infamous Second Son which technically does more given its openw orld this convo has to end now.

redwin4631d ago

Oye loco , do you have both systems? If not then maybe you are not qualified to say which is better. I have them both and I have a preference. But it's my opinion. I honestly like go know who has both systems here(Xbox and PS4, sorry Wii) and tell me which one you like and why. We will all know who is just a fanboy. (Loco as endearment )

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Godmars2904631d ago

The games will say which console or graphic system is "better". With gamers deciding what they like.

Though for me better at this point is whatever isn't a strictly first or third person perspective with realtime events or life-like physics.

PrimeGrime4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

Umm you know the PS4 also supports Unity along with every other current system right? So what is your point? Oh yea, that's right, you don't have one.

http://unity3d.com/unity/mu...

http://blog.us.playstation....

http://gamesided.com/2013/0...

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Dakriz4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

Sorry typos I'm on my phone, superiority has no game here, talent willingness and hunger to be the best will show who is who this Gen and both offer love for Indies in the end we all win.

svoulis4631d ago

Will there ever be an XBOX ONE or PS4 article, where someone doesn't compare the 2. For example this is a good/positive thing for Microsoft, yet people are going to immediately compare it to the PS4.

WHY!?!

How about, Congrats to the Indie Devs that Microsoft changed their Indie policy to make it easier and more profitable for you guys?

RytGear4631d ago

Comparing the two is kinda the point of competition and rivalry. It ensures that what you are buying is better than whats out there.

svoulis4631d ago

Not when they aren't even being debated. I could imagine if the headline said "Indie devs like Xbox One more then PS4" But I mean, really its not even comparing the 2 at all. Not in the slightest.

LordDhampire4631d ago

Because ballmer killed microsofts originality

giovonni4631d ago

Nope, and that's because they have to justify their purchase. No matter what good news comes from said company there will always be a rebuttal, cult like remarks, and pure bias talk.
See, in their eyes their is no congrats, it's more of " They had to change their policy to keep up with my company, nice try but it won't matter because my system is more powerful, I will never buy another company's system, and can't wait for them to kill off the competition. "

SDS Gamerfiend4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

Both consoles will shine regardless! One will be stronger than the other so what. Show me the games and exclusives!!!

PrimeGrime4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

I wasn't really going to comment here but reading the first comment, I had to. Why did you even have to mention the PS4? Now I have to correct you with just about everything.

Why are you acting like because the Xbox One now supports Unity, it is better? Did you guys even watch Gamescon when Sony officially confirmed Unity on PS4 before (not that it really matters when they did)? Guess not..

http://gamesided.com/2013/0...

All Playstation systems support Unity. This was announced on the Playstation blog way back in March, this includes the PS3, PS4 and even the PS Vita. It is also supported by Sony's cloud.

http://blog.us.playstation....

Not only that the Wii U even supports Unity.

http://unity3d.com/unity/mu...

I don't get why when the Xbox One gets something new now, you guys have to compare it to the PS4 like it is missing something. Your way of a nice excuse for you to have a reason in finally thinking the Xbox One is better since the hardware isn't? Just seems so insecure about your purchase is how it comes off.

Well I hate to break your little hearts but tons of systems even last gen's all support Unity even the Xbox 360 as well. So don't make yourself look anymore stupid than you already have.

Just consider this good news for the Xbox One and leave it at that will you. To me its really no surprise knowing that almost every current system to date basically has Unity support, its become one of those things you expect to be there. It would be more surprising to me if the Xbox One never received it.

XabiDaChosenOne4631d ago

Lol, I tried to stay away to but the ignorance was just to much for me to ignore. A couple of decent news reports for the Xbox one and Xbox fanboys don't know how to act.

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VR's success depends on much more than today's hottest video games

GamesRadar:
There's been a definite sea change across the world of gaming when it comes to the prospect of virtual reality over the last six months or so. While debate once raged amongst gamers and developers alike regarding the potential future of strapping a pair of blacked out goggles to your face and wandering around the house stumbling into furniture, now there's a general acceptance that, like it or not, VR is going to happen. The long and short of it is, the industry has simply invested way too much in the tech behind it to let it fail.

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BABY-JEDI3763d ago

VR's success is really dependant on the range of experiences that it will have to offer (in time). Be that gaming, music, cinema (premier), holiday, creative arts, education, NASA (probes), F1driving driving cam. Virtual shopping & retail order/buys, dating etc. Use your imagination & the sales will follow 😉

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Unity Founder: DirectX 12 API Alone Doesn't Give A Significant Performance Boost

David Helgason also talks about the use of Enlighten in Unity.

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SpaceRanger4001d ago

It seems that utilizing DX12 from the start is what better suits its performance overall. Simple concept to understand.

TheCommentator4001d ago

PCars is getting 7% with a patch. Native DX12 will get more. IF they double the performance of a patch that'll be great, but how big COULD the gains be? E3 should resolve some of this speculation. I can't wait!

dantesparda4001d ago

PCars is supposed to be a getting a 4-7% w/o DX12 (and Ian Bell said that the PS4 will also benefit from those improvements too), so i think people are getting it mixed up with that update. You people are to quick to want to point to anything you think is a DX12 improvement. Just like how you all thought the 30-40% DX12 increase was for X1 when people were trying to tell you's otherwise.

TheCommentator4001d ago (Edited 4001d ago )

Dante, they are two separate patches. SMS clarified today that a DX12 patch will add 7% to XB1. In post #54 of the Pcars forum which started the 30-40% debacle, Ian mentions the performance gains the current patch will give to both consoles. Then he hypothesizes that if Sony can emulate the features of DX12 they could benefit from an upcoming DX12 patch as well. Elsewhere in that forum, tbh, according to Ian the DX12 patch is only at a stage where a budget has been set aside for IF they have time to do it anyways.

Edit:

I am not "you people." I didn't think the evidence supported that notion 100%, as my post in that thread clearly states. Get to know me before you label me.

curtis924001d ago

I've never seen something like DX12 before where there are such polarizing opinions regarding it's use on console.

u4one4001d ago (Edited 4001d ago )

its because of the hatred and insecurities of all the opposing fanboys. they want to make sure that the xbox one doesn't get a leg up or parity with the ps4 since the x1 has a slightly weaker gpu (but better cpu setup). they would have less excuse for the bashing if the x1 suddenly started consistently matching resolution and texture filtering.

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The part I don't get is why would people hate on technology that is attempting to make gaming better in general. I'm not saying it will, but what if it did give the x1 the tools to outpace the ps4 in terms of performance? what would be the drawback? We'd have an even better console to play games on. Whats more and even better, it would give Sony incentive to improve their own APIs and since the PS4s GPU has a bit more horsepower, they could take it even further. I don't understand why people don't love the competition because we the consumers win when they battle it out.

To prove my point, look how much xbox one users have benefitted from the PS4s success. There have been more deals, more bundles, more features, more apps or anything to motivate more sales getting tossed over to the x1 side than would ever have been the case if the sales were more equalized across brands.

solar4001d ago

fanboys are effing idiots.

parentsbasement4001d ago

Your post is well thought out , makes perfect sense , and is completely right...so , in the sprit of N4G , i'll disagree with it...

ThanatosDMC4001d ago

I completely agree... with parentsbasement.

Lennoxb634001d ago

Of course it depends on the engine and its compliance with DX12. Also depends on the techniques the devs use.

XeyedGamer4001d ago

I don't recall dx11 having such a big fuss made about it.

solar4001d ago

it did have a big fuss, but crapped the bed.

ThanatosDMC4001d ago (Edited 4001d ago )

There was a lot of fuss with dx11 fog effects being a thing but most people just stuck with dx9 settings due to higher performance.

windblowsagain4001d ago

They made a bigger fuss over dx10 or 9 and in many games dx9 was faster,lol.

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Unity CEO hopes Clash of Clans ‘drops like a fly’

Unity’s David Helgason explains his disappointment that the same companies continue to dominate mobile.

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spacepope4257d ago

If I was a pie chart baker, a budget cruncher, or an analytics snake oil salesman I'd be breathing a sigh of relief that they haven't dropped. It's a sign that big sales and marketing budgets, which include these types of jobs, can provide stable success (and stable employment).

Creatively it's bleh. Who, outside of suit-land, really wants the old big publishing system dominating again? Keep this industry wild and shaken.

tekksin4257d ago

well if it wasn't so dominated, maybe some people could find my game :|

KeeseToast4257d ago

So whats the name of your game ??

tekksin4257d ago

María

You can preview what the game is like in this link: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

It's my first game, and it took a lot of time to learn how to get everything to work and look right. Unfortunately when I finished, I realized there was something called "marketing", and without that nothing really gets off the ground.

WeAreLegion4257d ago

What's your game? I'll give it a go!

tekksin4257d ago

María. It's pretty much mario with a female lead, and based around treasure puns. There's more info up above, if you're interested to know more :)

our_games_are_art4257d ago

OP will surely deliver game name

Death4257d ago

He changed it to Clash of Clans. He swapped the "C" in Clash with the "C" in Clans. The games look virtually identical.

WeAreLegion4257d ago (Edited 4257d ago )

Dude! It's awesome! It's very difficult to find in the Google Play Store through a mobile device. Why is that?

I'm loving it, so far! I'm only a couple of levels in.

I have a couple of thoughts though:

The font is much too small on my LG G3. Is that just a phone thing or is that how it usually plays? It's very hard to read. Minecraft PE actually has that issue on the G3 with the d-pad. -_-

Are there plans for a paid version? I would gladly pay for this game to get rid of the ads. It's a quality title.

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