@Maloveki

You agree that devices like these have potential but then say people getting excited about it makes no sence to you? Paint me confused by that...

I agree that we have no way of knowing what developers will do and could just end up throwing shovelware at us just like what happened with the wii and kinect... or it could revolutionize gaming. I find the unknown exciting and the possibilities make me giddy with excitement.

If you can't get excited over the unknowns then christmas must have been really dull at your house when you were a kid...

Where did I say that I wasn't excited bout the prospects? You're putting words in my mouth...

"Don't get me wrong, a VR headset could be cool. "

That's as close as I came to even remotely broaching the subject of my personal interest.

You completely ignored my points, including the pervading point that this wont revolutionize anything if its just one in a sea of unadopted peripherals.

Occulus on PC, I see potential there.

After using the Oculus Rift for myself it was obvious that VR is a big part of the future of video games and it was only a matter of time until the console makers would want to get involved.

I'm going to get the consumer Rift at launch and consoles adopting VR can only be a good thing for the future of VR gaming.

That said, there are going to be more limits on the consoles. You need a steady 60fps for VR and the stereo 3D also incurs some performance hit, especially if it is geometric 3D and not simple z-buffer based 3D.

Many games on consoles are going to be 30fps and those games either won't work in VR or they will have to be downgraded and pared back in order to run at 60fps in stereoscopic 3D.

Still, this is only a good thing. Many simpler games will work just fine. I'm happy I'll be able to enjoy VR on my PC and my PS4.

I do have to say, though, that if the consoles do jump on the VR wagon I hope that they will just support the Oculus Rift instead of trying to build another proprietary device. I will already own a Rift for my PC and it would be nice to be able to just use that same device on my console as well, instead of having to spend several more hundred dollars to get one that only works with that console.

Steering with your hands in the air, or which a shitty plastic peripheral is a gimmick. Clearly not adding to gameplay but making you less accurate.

Driving with A headset with proper depth perception, being able to look in the rear view mirror by simply, looking in the rear view mirror. Visibility is a major flaw in driving games that would be solved by VR HMD's.

There is so many new possibilities in VR for new genre of games, new solutions to problems that have hindered gaming forever. Is this going to make every game better? no. I s this going to be unbelievable for some games? yes.

Here's the problem with your argument though. We already have Kinect and we've already seen it fail (at least the first version) so it's much easier to disregard that as a gimmick. We haven't seen VR really implemented into a console, and with the reception the Oculus is getting it has the potential to be game changing.

@malokevi

My original comment was one of excitement which you then went to say you didn't understand, I didn't put words in your mouth at all.

I took your points into consideration thats why I mentioned that it could flop if devs didn't support it correctly (much like kinect and move which is a comparison you made by speaking about motion controls)

There is nothing to put on a pedestal just yet there are those of us who are excited about what could be as we have no idea what will be. You sir by saying i put it on a pedestal put words into my mouth.

Also I don't understand saying something could work for gaming on pc and not console gaming, while pc's are more powerful I don't understand why anyone would consider it a "gimick" on one and not the other after all thry display mostly the same media.

Moving around like an idiot is not the same as VR

But again, my main argument is completely ignored.

With move, eyetoy, and a headset, none of which are included with the console, all 3 will slice the userbase into users who have no peripherals, users who have one of them, and users who have a few of them... the ones without anything being the largest group. So, do you really expect any mainstream developers to actually get behind any of it?

If this headset came with every ps4, it would be entirely different. Every developer could develop with vr in mind, without sacrificing potential revenue.

That's where the new Kinect has a fundamental advantage over the previous iteration, as well as over any ps4 peripheral. And that's why VR on PS4 won't revolutionize anything.

Vr on PC is a different animal. People can expect developers will be working on VR games because they have the financial and creative freedom to take risks. Until its proven on PC or universally adopted on consoles, you wont see any breakthrough VR applications in the console space.

That's just the way it is, as much as you all seem keen to ignore it.

"Moving around like an idiot is not the same as VR "

This tendency for people to typify voice control and body tracking as necessarily "moving around like an idiot" is indicative of poor understanding or intentional misunderstanding. There are so many great potential applications for the tech in mainstream gaming. To qualify it as "moving around like an idiot" is... idiotic. You are taking your hatred for party games and projecting it onto other possible mainstream applications, out of what I can only assume is raw hatred for a particular brand... something that I can't for the life of me begin to understand.

People are so quick to dismiss the tech based on their preconceived notions of which console manufacturer they prefer. Those are the same narrow minded folks who will be missing out on great experiences.

Well they cant make it any worse than the virtualboy or the JAG-VR or SEGA-VR headsets.

how many could the PS4 support? i ask because if it only supported 1 then taking turns wearing it would be a bit of an inconvenience.

Ever since the lawnmower man i have wanted a home VR setup....with a HMD AND kinect/ps4eye camera now we are talking about really getting into the game.

on a side note, PS3 was trying to usher in 3d and now the PS4 will try to usher in VR.....im good with that.

TISK TISK TISK. It doesn't matter what Sony brings to the market they never impliment it the right way or know how to use it.

Now they are gonna jump on the VR wagon when they had an AR/VR headset that would of changed gaming as we know it SMH..../

They could of used it with the PS Move and the camera could turn the move into any kind of weapon or instrument, that would of blown everything else out of the water. Imagine using the PSMove rifle in a shooter and it resing into the game as any type of weapon, use the opposite hand to throw an AR/VR grenade, or the Move turning into an AR/VR Sword or a lightsaber,

Sony drops the ball with their tech all the time and that's why they dont succeed like other companies, with them.

@Kingpindip

"My original comment was one of excitement which you then went to say you didn't understand, I didn't put words in your mouth at all."

you said...

"If this happens it will justify a next gen purchase to me"

I took it literally, and responded appropriately. I didn't think your comment was french for "I'm excited".

I don't think that an unannounced product about which we know nothing of price, support, or functionality is even remotely "justification" for spending 400 dollars on a console.

Which is what I don't understand...

And yes, you put words in my mouth. Excuse me for reading things as they're written, I know thats not common practice around here.

"There is nothing to put on a pedestal just yet there are those of us who are excited about what could be as we have no idea what will be. You sir by saying i put it on a pedestal put words into my mouth."

I wasn't referring to just you... I was commenting on the general comments in the thread. And yes, unchecked praise for something we know nothing about is "putting it on a pedestal".

Keep on spinning, for all the good it will do you.

Malokevi, you come off as upset that MS isn't the one to be rumored doing this. I honestly believe you would have a different view point on this if MS were the ones being rumored to be doing this.

I bet you're the same person that thinks MS's first Kinect was a success (which didn't come with every system), but all of a sudden separate peripherals are impractical?

I bet you're the same person that says MS's first Kinect had a lot of support (which again didn't come with every system), but all of a sudden it isn't possible to get support for separate peripherals anymore?

I'm just calling hypocrisies where I see them.

If this VR rumor is like the Oculus Rift then I can definitely see this taking off if the price is right.

But yeah, continue on about how this is a bad idea that will most likely not pan out if it helps you feel better, being pessimistic isn't a crime after all. Others will continue to be excited about the potential regardless.