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Dear Microsoft, Stop Making It So Hard to Defend You

GeekParty's Jake Valentine writes an open letter to Microsoft.

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NYC_Gamer4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

Why defend any company?we need to stop acting like these companies are our friends/ we aren't getting paid by them.

US8F4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

It is not a matter of defending a company like a friend but defending a company based on genuinity and good business. shoving things down on your consumers is bad business, as if they are our parents and telling us what and what not to do. Making the consumer happy means more money for the company which makes them happy

Microsoft's case, not so much. It started in disaster and I hope it doesn't end the same way, for the sake of competition atleast. I hate that they were full of dishonesty from the get go, and so much gimmicks to sell their over priced console.

Regardless, people would buy their system because they love their exclusives, but for me, no exclusive is going to make me sell my rights for gimmicks. Even if they reversed most of the things now, its too little to late for that.

I swear if Sony did the same thing, I would stick to PC gaming, and I would be more than happy with that. Thank god they didn't

Neonridr4654d ago

so the PS3 wasn't an overpriced console?

hop3lessfray4654d ago

Exactly. It's nice to be able to look back at the PS3 and see how Sony was able to turn it around. For the sake of competition, it would be nice if they could turn it around as well.

Things are better when both consoles are strong.

US8F4654d ago

@Neonridr

It was but I bought it 2 years after it was released. Did Sony force anything on us when they released it other than the price? Did they lie to us and make 180 degree reversals after they claimed it wasn't possible when asked? there is more to say but you get my point.

IcicleTrepan4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

@US8F

Firstly, Microsoft did not lie. It was a cluster by any standard, but they didn't lie. And no they didn't force anything on you unless they at gunpoint made you buy the console that isn't even out yet. boo hoo on your little immature tears.

Secondly, shouldn't you be more concerned about your government lying to you and forcing things upon you (for real) than a video game company? Give me a damned break.

You act like Microsoft shredded your favourite stuffed animal.

hop3lessfray4654d ago

@US8F

They kinda forced Sixasis a bit (Lair) before they released DualShock 3.

adorie4654d ago

@Neonridr
How was it overpriced when it had Blu-Ray? Not to mention HDMI and wi-fi, OUT of the box.
The PS3 was supposedly worth something like a thousand dollars and Sony were losing tons of money on each system.

"in before: not my problem"

darthv724654d ago

@US8F...some would argue that bluray was forced because the quality of the games at the time were no better than DVD quality.

sony was even questioned if they could have released a PS3 without the BD drive and while it would have been possible, they were more interested in pushing forward the acceptance of the format than actually making use of its space.

the usefulness of the capacity came in time but until a game like MGS4, the capacity was not used to the benefit of the format. it was for movies which was the driving idea from the beginning.

So Im glad sony stuck to their idea of keeping bluray just as i am glad Ms will stick to their idea of including a kinect with every xb1. the appeal of what they offer is not something that is universal (not everyone will like it) but you have to give them credit for believing strongly in their product to keep it relevant.

And I would not go so far as to say "defending a company" more like just educating those with closed minds that its okay to be receptive to something different. you never know if you will like something if you arent open to trying it out for yourself.

YNWA964654d ago

I am glad Sony turned it around, but companies do make mistakes, errors and so on, and I know MS screwed things up, but to be honest, it has been merciless and extremely personal for some people here, while pretending Sony never made mistakes and that they are the Messiah... have your gripe against MS, no problem, but get over it... to come on every article, and see the same whining, even when its a good article/news or whatever... its pointless at this stage.... I do not know about others, but I am sick of seeing people here, complaining, attaching a bunch of links, and never actually articulating something by them self, enough is enough, please...

hop3lessfray4654d ago

@darthv72

Forced? Perhaps, but it was an absolutely brilliant move by Sony.

Microsoft could have easily supported HD-DVD natively, but their decision not to may have cost the format.

Sony could boast the fact that every PS3 owner was also a Blu-ray owner, helping the format's sales. It's the same gambit Microsoft is trying with Kinect: every Xbox One owner is also a Kinect owner.

adventureghost1244654d ago

@IcicleTrepan

So when they microsoft said "We cant change the Xbox One's policies with a flip of a switch," and then completely reverse them 3 days later that wasn't lying? About forcing things on to you, he's refering to if you bought the console, they tried to force DRM and a nearly constant connection to the internet. About government, how do you know what country he is from? His government could be fine. Not to mention that Microsoft has ties to the NSA, and was, without a doubt, going to use the kinect to spy on its users.

quenomamen4654d ago

Agreed, if these was a car company, fast food company, wachine machine company there would not be so many fanboys making excuses.

n4rc4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

Yea they did.. Remember back when ps3 would run Linux?

How quickly did they own up to the hack?

Keep acting like Sony has a perfect track record if you want.. Doesn't make it true

And its not a lie.. They are essentially rewriting all software to make it happen.. Its not a flip of a switch no matter how easy it is to say so

tordavis4653d ago

@us8f - yes they lied. They took away Linux, they took away backwards compatibility and they flip flopped on rumble support.

Just sayin...

Freedomland4653d ago

@tordavis

They took away all these features so that they can reduce price and to improve security.

kreate4653d ago

Sony forced bluray on us as much as microsoft forced dvd on us like how sony forced cd on us like how nintendo forced the wii-mote on us.... etc etc.

Than kratos, master chief, mario was shoved down our throats .... etc

*grumbling

/s

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GarrusVakarian4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

If anything, you should USE a company, get what you want from them (in this case games) and leave it at that, they get your money, you get your games, everyones happy.

Of course there's always going to be a certain amount of respect or admiration for a company that suits your needs, but people need to stop acting like they are married to these companies.

devwan4654d ago (Edited 4654d ago )

I see what you're saying but can't fully agree with it.

For me and many console gamers it's not a matter of taking what you want and that's the deal done, kthxbai... reason being it's not just like using a utility company that provides a generic faceless service for the mundane day-to-day stuff. To me it's somewhere closer to being a fan of a football team.

YNWA96 posted above you, he's a ms fan (I believe) and clearly a Liverpool fan. I'm sure he's much more passionate about the mighty reds than he is about the company who made his games console, but I'd bet he doesn't think of buying games and paying for live from Microsoft the same way he does paying council tax or British Gas for their services. There's some kind of middle ground here where the console manufacturers and game producers fit in. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with being a fan of a company that provides and facilitates so much enjoyment (of course, at a cost!).

Really I just think your way of looking at things is a bit cold. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't your cable provider, aren't your water supplier, aren't your electricity company offering mundane necessities that you "USE", they're the companies that make all kinds of AWESOME that we all spend crap loads too much time enjoying the hell out of. That's the kind of business you should be allowed to really enjoy and support - just like a sports team.

So I think it's only natural to be a little more fond of them than British Telecom or Verizon.

Like everything else though, some take it too far... that's when it begins to ruin things for everyone on a site such as this.

GarrusVakarian4654d ago

@ Devwan

I reserve my passion and love for the devs and the games, not so much for the big bosses that rule them :)

A_Gamer4654d ago

I completely agree with you NYC_Gamer. By the way this is off topic but I'm from NYC also. Brooklyn to be exact.

IcicleTrepan4654d ago

I'm with you.

The self entitled sucky baby tantrums on this thread and site are just mystifying to me.

The average age of N4G users must be about 15, middle class with no worries in life other than a huge list of what they want for christmas. In that case, why worry little man, mummy and/or daddy will buy you whichever console your little heart desires so that you'll never have to ever think for yourself or worry about something more important than a video game console such as real life - you know, working for a living, paying bills... you just keep worrying about how many pixels your little game box pushes more compared to the competition and you will be a huge success in life.

jmac534654d ago

It's more like defending your purchase because that is really what defines a person, right?

MineHaxx4654d ago

You are totally right sir.Most fanboys are promoting both consoles without getting paid.
Also,Bubble Up for you. :)

jensen864654d ago

me n sony are friends untill they pull sum shit like MS

BallsEye4653d ago

Sony pulled a lot of shits, you are just too young to remember.

cvflyboy4653d ago

Exactly! Sony or Microsoft should never be defended if they ever try to screw the gamers. This is our hobbies and it should be protected at all cost from nickle and dimming policies.

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RytGear4654d ago

If its hard to defend a company then maybe they don't deserve to be defended.

guitarded774654d ago

The title made me laugh. It's so true. I see MS fans defending some of the dumbest things. We should all be critical of any company when they do something that's not in the best interest of us (the gamer, the consumer).

ThanatosDMC4654d ago

Yup, i love the comment about having options about batteries or rechargeable ones.

Neonridr4654d ago

I think we see fans of all camps defending some pretty stupid things. Sony fans made fun of Wii fans saying how gimmicky the Wiimote was, then stood hand in hand to defend the Playstation Move to their graves.

It's only natural to defend your console of choice.

Personally, I support multiple consoles that way I don't have to rely on one always making good or sound business decisions.

This isn't a business of charity people, bottom line is these companies want money.

BallsEye4654d ago

Ow shut up. It's getting old.

Hicken4653d ago

Defending Microsoft is getting old? I agree.

Kingthrash3604654d ago

they say the truth hurts........the truth is hilarious on this occasion .

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio32d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing32d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit32d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing32d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay34d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn235d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn234d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown34d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay34d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay34d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac34d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger34d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300034d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde34d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde34d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7536d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_33d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.