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Xbox One will not have Compulsory Demos

With the Xbox 360, you could expect to be able to try any Xbox Live Arcade game before you bought it thanks to Microsoft forcing compulsory demos for such titles, however this is not the case with the Xbox One. Microsoft’s decision to scrap the Arcade Store for the Xbox One means that studios will no longer be obliged to offer demos for their games. In short, there will be no guarantee that digital titles will feature demos.

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allformats4661d ago (Edited 4661d ago )

What? Who's been making decisions at Microsoft? You guys sure it isn't Kinect calling the shots?

Zichu4661d ago

This will be all down to the developers. To be honest, I don't see a demo for every game on the store.

They don't have a Saints Row 4 demo. They have a character creation demo, but you don't actually play the game. Nor does Blacklist. These are two new games, but even GTA IV doesn't have a demo.

I know MS made the decision to not have mandatory demos, but this is all down to the developers now. It will be the developers fault if they don't put up a demo. It is just called being lazy.

minimur124661d ago (Edited 4661d ago )

Does PS4 have compulsury demos?

(I'm not being a ps douche, it's an honest question)

Zichu4661d ago

@minimur12

I have no idea tbh. I haven't heard anything about it. They will probably announce it though.

When one announces something, the other usually announces the same thing or something similar.

BLAKHOODe4661d ago

Demos take time and cost money to develop and if done wrong could kill a game's sales. They are a risky investment and I really don't blame developers for wanting to stay away from them, especially with so many studios getting closed down. It has nothing to do with being lazy.

sic_chops4661d ago

@mini if I'm not mistaken, I believe Sony said you will be able to try any game before you buy it. Don't quote on that though. I'll have to do more research.

xBigxBossx4661d ago

This is for arcade games sir. Not AAA games.

HammadTheBeast4661d ago

Can't make a GTA IV demo, how would you restrict an open-world? Maybe a timer, but thats just lame.

Zichu4661d ago

@HammadTheBeast

Just Cause 2 had a demo and it's an open world game. I remember playing it, I think it had either a timer, had a limited zone or both.

MYSTERIO3604661d ago (Edited 4661d ago )

@sic_chops

You are indeed right, Sony have announced that they will allow consumers to try games before they purchase them.

Following a quote from trustedreviews.com

''One of the stand-out features of the PS4 must be Sony's embrace of streamed gaming. Using streaming tech from Gaikai, Sony is proposing to let you try games before you buy not by downloading a feature-crippled demo but by letting you play the full game over the internet.

This, Sony says, will change the way you buy games by letting you truly try before you buy.

The PS4 will also learn your preferences and silently download games it thinks you might WANT to buy''

http://www.trustedreviews.c...

gnothe14661d ago

Did you not see ARCADE GAMES..........every arcade game has a demo mode..

BlueBlood174661d ago (Edited 4661d ago )

@minimur12

As far as I'm aware, no.

But Sony are pushing for devs to make more demos especially as with gaikai you can try a game instantly through streaming (when it becomes available) very quickly with no download needed - which I think is awesome :D

So hopefully there will be many more demos available next-gen as (for PS4 owners at least) there would be really reason not to quickly try out something new.

rainslacker4660d ago

I think Sony's "try before you buy" is probably going to be akin to their full game trials on PS+. Basically it lets you play the full game for 1 hour before buying it. I'd imagine once they get Gaikai up, or manage to get this minimal install thing going with background streaming installs, that you won't be required to download the whole game anymore.

I can't say for sure if all games currently offer full game trials on the PS3 though, I never actually get them. Usually the first hour of a game is just going through tutorials or lengthy cut scenes, so never seemed worth it.

If this is true, it would alleviate the need to make a separate demo.

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generalthadeape4661d ago (Edited 4661d ago )

Funny one allformats!

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n4rc4661d ago

Its for arcade titles.... Has nothing to do with AAA demos..

God.. People need to read articles and stop heading right to the comments..

Its taking away a requirement that developers had on them..

nick3094661d ago

Psn dosent get a demo for every single arcade game, indies barely have demos, same with AAA titles.

BallsEye4661d ago

Bullsh!t. Misleading title. They simply said not all games will have demos. Said in original article on OXM, they just don't force devs to release a trial. On 360 they forced it.

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badkolo4661d ago

there will be demos just not forced demos for every arcade game. devs would be insane to decide not to add a demo, people wont buy as much unless they get to try

steve30x4661d ago

The new thing these days is not having a demo for a game. So Don't expect every game on the Xbox One to have a demo.

dazzrazz4661d ago

I guess now you know why most of the retail games don't have demos anymore.Nobody is forcing them at all and they released it only if they feel like having one. But I don't see whats the fucking problem here anyway, xbl arcade demos were actually full titles but with time trial or other (like 1 level restrictions)

Deeke4661d ago

Whaaat?! This is bad. Try before you buy is a huge mantra that allows people to avoid potentially wasteful games.

The prices on XBLA...sorry, the Xbox Games Store (cough) are already too high, especially entertainment content like their movies and such.

Coupled with not being able to try out things via demos, this could lead to a huge loss for M$.

CYCLEGAMER4661d ago

You mean a huge loss for devs? It's their game!

thrust4661d ago

It's upto the devs now that is all.

And it is for arcade games not the full games! Not all full got demos anyway.

THamm4661d ago

"allows people to avoid potentially wasteful games."

This. They lose a ton of sales due to demos. Not only did the demo allow you not to buy garbage but it also allowed you to see the graphical quality, controls, etc. I personally bought waay more xbla games than psn due to demos, but also sometimes the demo alone quenched my thirst for nostalgia.

CYCLEGAMER4661d ago

This is very disappointing! I don't buy games on impulse, I need to try them out first. There will be a lot less arcade games that I buy, but hey...maybe it will save me some money in the long run.

thrust4661d ago

What games are you getting with your next gen console if you are getting one?

CYCLEGAMER4661d ago

I WANT to get Killer Instinct, Killzone, and Forza. However I am hoping that I am able to play them first. KI will be free!

steve30x4661d ago

They will blame Piracy for lack of sales of games if this is true. A lot of people try befgore they buy and if they cant try the game first then they wont chance wasting money on a game they might not like.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio39d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing39d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit39d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing39d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay41d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn241d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn241d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown41d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay41d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay41d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac40d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger41d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300041d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde41d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde41d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7542d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_40d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.