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Xbox One passed FCC certification 'before PS4'

Xbox One passed FCC certification "earlier this summer before PS4", Microsoft's Larry Hryb has revealed, suggesting that the console had been further along in the production cycle than Sony's platform.

aviator1894649d ago

Great to see that both consoles have passed certification.
Now, I await the holidays. :D

SuperLupe4649d ago

MS just made a fool of the entire internet.

mewhy324649d ago Show
gamertk4214649d ago

@mewhy. Get new data, those are estimated figures from a month ago.

LoveOfTheGame4649d ago

@mewhy
Did you watch E3 cause what I saw it was games, games, games vs tv, features, Paywall. It was surprising to see Sony not talk much about games.

Sony had a much better reveal/E3 combo but in now way did they compete with MS E3 when they delivered on being all about games.

PS: I'm pretty sure MS said TV once in their entire E3 conference, which was a pleasant surprise.

JokesOnYou4649d ago Show
HiddenMission4649d ago

really you believe the PR hype man who just yesterday was caught lying about the REAL production problems that are actually impacting the XB1.

He said yesterday on twitter that the stories about productions issues were false.

Then just hours later the manufacture of the XB1 said that the console was really having manufacturing issues.

You have to think Larry has a vested interest in putting either a positive spin on the issue or completely pretend like it doesn't exist.

With regards to this matter there is no document supporting yet another one of his false claims...it's called damage control and that is exactly what he is paid to do.

creatchee4649d ago

@SuperLupe

The internet kinda did it to itself. Nelson just pointed it out.

MusicComposer4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

@gamertk421
As far as I know we really only have Amazon as real proof of what preorder sales are currently like. I'm looking at the "best sellers of 2013" on Amazon so far and the preorder data still looks like this.

#4 - Playstation 4 - Launch Edition
#7 - Xbox One - Day One Edition
#29 - Playstation 4 - Standard Edition
#71 - Playstation 4 - Watch Dogs Bundle
#76 - Playstation 4 - Battlefield 4 Bundle

The Xbox One - Standard Edition hasn't even broken into the top 100 yet. It's only data for one place of course, but that's not to say it isn't the same everywhere else. This is about the best we have though, everything else is hearsay.

Reference: http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

hqgamez4649d ago

increasing the clock speed means it will have to go pass fcc again.

HammadTheBeast4649d ago

K.

Reported for personal attack JokesonYou.

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s8anicslayer4649d ago

I kind of remember a news post referring to the Xbox One passing FCC cert. But I'm having a hard time finding it. Either way it's good news and I'm guessing PAX we shall get an announced release date.

christocolus4649d ago

i just love the way ms has been quietly answering gamers worries, without making a big deal out of it...im with you superlupe, they did infact make a big fool of those who were making an issue out of nothing...for crying out loud fcc approval? what does that have to do with games?and now fanboys are quick to go on the defensive...

@mewhy32 - from your comment it seems this news hurt you really bad..e3 was amazing for ms, it was all about gret games just as ms said it would...

christocolus4649d ago

@superlupe

i just love the way ms has been quietly answering gamers worries, without making a big deal out of it...im with you dude, they did infact make a big fool of those who were making an issue out of nothing...for crying out loud fcc approval? what does that have to do with games?and now fanboys are quick to go on the defensive...

@mewhy32 - from your comment it seems this news hurt you really bad..e3 was amazing for ms, it was all about gret games just as ms said it would...

jatakk4649d ago

@s8anicslayer

Here's the link to the FCC certification:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/...

JokesOnYou4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

lol, Hammad So me pointing out that yesterday you were questioning multiple times why X1 had not passed FCC as if it pointed to some smoking gun sign of trouble, now it turns out that it was BS so now thats a personal attack? lol, I've been called every name in the ps fanboy haters book and it doesn't bother me one bit because I try to just call it like I see it, some get offended easily and yeah sometimes I'm wrong or go a bit over board but I TRY to be fair minded, still I'm human, either way Im not going to cry to the mods because someone called me out for being wrong.

avengers19784649d ago

Source major Nelson... He's job is to talk up Xbox and let people know everything is fine.
Passing FCC before Sony means very little, since we know Sony will be releasing on Nov 15 and 29, but do not know a release date for XB1. It also means that they cannot make changes to the system( without resubmitting to the FCC )
It also has nothing to do with rumored manufacturing issues.
If MS does not give a release date soon then I fear they won't be releasing in November, and I hope they do for all the people that are waiting for it.

I want the head to head release. Even if it is a week or 2 before or after the PS4.

ShinMaster4649d ago

LOL @ fanboys arguing about the FCC? wow

The issue was that Xbox fans themselves were worried about delays. But somehow they found a way to blame PlayStation fans. And so, they begin to argue.

thechosenone4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

If the Xb1 passed cert months ago then why is this being talked about today? Oh because no one cared about the xb1 and this info back then and they still don't today. heh

Gamingcapacity4649d ago

Just read this
"We are requesting the commission to grant short
-
term confidentiality request on the
following attachments until
November
21, 2013
:"

This is why the FCC results aren't common knowledge. Plus November 21st looks like the planned release date.

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/Ge...

gaffyh4649d ago

@Gamingcapacity - I thought the exact same thing. It provides a little more evidence that a November 22nd release date could indeed happen.

ceed9114649d ago

Entire Internet = the same annoying 100 people on this site.

Ju4649d ago

@jatakk Maybe you can fill in the link to the Xbox One, because all your link points to is the Wireless controller. https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/Ge... Page 5

Syntax-Error4649d ago

HiddenMessage. Shut Up! All you do is bash Xbox. Sony just shows how classless they are by publically speaking bad about MS. Not once has MS spoken Sony's name in the press. Sony CEO in Europe just went on record by saying MS is dumb for packing in a free game and also saying WE'RE AHEAD OF THEM, SO WHY SHOULD WE GIVE OUR PRE-ORDERS ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

malol4649d ago

seems like MS was trying to rush again !!

LackTrue4K4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I'm mostly on Sony's side when it comes to news and such, but this really?!?
.....now out of know where hu????

..........now that the XboxOne did past FCC months ago (before the PlayStation4 did)

...."NOW ITS NOT A BIG DEAL, AND NO ONE CARES?!"
lol.....

pixelsword4648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

What's the significance? The early 360 passed the FCC certification before all of the RRoD, and so did the early PS3 before the YLoD, so that doesn't mean that there isn't problems or won't be in the future.

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Bigpappy4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Nan. This is the usual suspects spreading rumors as fact. Usually M$ ignore stuff like this. But because of the recent DMR reversal, they feel like they have to respond to some of the junk being reported.

But is PS fanboy propaganda. This is the first time I have seen a console release where this has been reported as an issue.

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StoutBEER4649d ago

Designated Marksman Rifle!

gaelic_laoch4649d ago

Yeah, I'm delighted that both console are ready to go and the wait is nearly over at last!

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Mounce4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I want proof from FCC rather than Microsoft saying so themselves.

They have changed the console specs a bit and it feels like they hadn't finalized it ESPECIALLY since they're basically saying that they got approved before Sony, so, around e3 or before e3 even....

I call bull on this. Wouldn't any spec-changes mean they need it Re-approved?? It's the only thing that I don't know 100%.

^The guy directly above me talks about sheep pretty hypocritically. 'Sony Sheep' - 'Coming from a Microsoft sheep' ... Sheep can't call out other sheep! Unless the other are Goats or something....

SheepA: "LOOK! A SHEEP!"
SheepB: *Stares*
SheepA: "Yea, that's right, you're a cute little sheep :-*"
SheepB: "Chews grass with mouth open ajar"

lastofgen4649d ago

Lol...I can't believe how big of an issue you are making of a product passing FCC.. Why in the world would two microsoft representatives lie about a product passing FCC?

Honestly, it's beyond ridiculous.

XboxFun4649d ago

@Lastgen

It's really the only thing some of these folks have to hold on to against the Xbox 1.

I mean we can already cross RAM, NSA, DRM, hUMA, Kinect required, self publishing off the list. What else can they have besides it being 100 dollars more too keep harping on about.

This is what some sony fanboys have devolved too folks, demanding FCC reports. It's past ridiculous and into the realm of plain sad.

Muerte24944649d ago

You can google PS4 passes FCC and you'll get some kinda of article back in July. If you try to good Microsoft FCC certification you'll get Major Nelson's quote. Engadget still hasn't reported on it yet either sooo.....

Izzy4084649d ago

You're one of those people who believe Obama is from Kenya, aren't you?

Mounce4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

All of your comments in being some outlandish, upset and disgruntled Xbox fanboy gave me Cancer. Hope you're happy.

Seems like there's more fanboys ravaging this section than Gamers, where you can't ask a question or inquire for more info without being attacked by insecure fans of a specific platform while being declared a fanboy of another platform illogically and irrationally. My God, and especially someone named Xbox Fun with 2 bubbles getting more Agrees than Disagrees is just sad.

@Muerte2494 - I'm at least god damn glad SOMEONE else here has common fucking sense.... desperate and defensive fanboys here are attacking me simply for asking for PROOF. Cause certainly ASKING FOR PROOF makes me a hellspawn of a fanboy for Sony. A deluded sheep would be one who is okay without evidence and attacks those who ask questions for details. A grounded individual would understand that Word-of-mouth isn't Factual and that if the FCC confirmed X1, we'd have something leaked, we'd have confirmation, we'd have Microsoft officially announcing that it's Clear and Gold. There is not a single company that doesn't shred light directly or indirectly about passing FFC or about their games going Gold.

So, to the rabid xbox fanboys, lastofgen, 'XboxFun', calm down and crawl back in your cave. Me making a joke and asking questions apparently is:

"Making this a big issue" and: "This is what some sony fanboys have devolved too folks, demanding FCC reports. It's past ridiculous and into the realm of plain sad."

People like this guy just act like a child and people seem to be okay with that and even agree with him, where's the fun?! Where's the maturity in any of these posts?! CMON! I didn't even need to tell anyone what I prefer or what my favorite console is and I'm blatantly called a Sony fanboy, give me a damn break. -_- Least Sony fanboys are Rational albeit cocky, unlike what I'm seeing here.

maniacmayhem4649d ago

@Mounce

I really think you're the one missing the point and while you are definitely missing it it's you who sounds more upset and disgruntled. Especially your whole "you want proof" or the whole sheep statement.

I agree with XboxFun and the rest, wanting to see a FCC report is just plain stupid. When in console history has ANYONE requested that? When has this become a big deal?

Why not request the blueprints for the ship routes from China to what ever other country the X1 will ship to?

It's that stupid.

It's not sheep who don't ask when there's no issue. It's fools who make bigger deals out of non-issues that's more concerning.

"There is not a single company that doesn't shred light directly or indirectly about passing FFC..."

really, where was the N4G article for the WiiU, PS3, 360 and the Wii?

Mounce4649d ago

You're making a mountain of a molehill on my comment as well. Twisting my words around quite a lot. rofl. Between XboxFun saying I'm 'DEMANDING' to you saying I'm 'REQUESTING'

Apparently by saying, "I want proof of this" due to mistrust of a company like Microsoft who're prone to be liars and use misinformation to get the upper hand and half-truths. Asking for proof makes me 'Upset and disgruntled'? Never go full-retard.

That and your analogy is completely random and you seem to be everywhere in exaggerations.

Sheep, they don't ask questions because they feel they don't need to know the complete details. As it's been shown here, I ask or input a statement in which I'd feel better knowing there was actual PROOF....and I get attacked by zealous fanboys who defend a hunk of plastic and a company who has no affiliation to them. Soooooo logical, so Un-sheep like, Totally. I'm not making a 'Big Deal' of it as people like you are making a big deal of my comment, in which I make a very Very simple inquiry. You all seem to be losing your minds as if me asking for actual proof outside of them simply saying 'Yes', you're all overreacting while comically proclaiming I am the one overreacting. I'm simply at awe and shock how ignorant these zealous fanboys are who seem to be attacking me over such a trivial comment.

I'm sure I could say "I want proof that this is chocolate icecream and not infact Fudge" and I'd get zealous puppets coming at me like you and the 2 others below me, attacking me and telling me things like "HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR PROOF!" - "Wow! You're asking, QUESTIONS?! SO DRAMATIC Dude! He said it's chocolate, why are you so demanding you French Vanilla fanboy!"

^Note, how stupid you all sound to me can be compared to my Icecream analogy. I can't ask if something is chocolate icecream without being attacked, completely retarded by all accounts.

And you want proof of my claims that other consoles get FCC passes, even N4G wise? I'm fine with embarrassing you just a little, here's PS3 and PS3 Slims for one. Though comically I have to stop here because if I try to do quick google searches for Wii U or the like, all I get are bombardments of 'THIS' news piece or EVERYTHING about X1, even typing "Nintendo Wii U" and the first damn links I get are Xbox One related about this 'controversy' or at that, the awkwardness of this news piece being the newest thing.

PS3? http://n4g.com/news/9064/ps...

PS3 Slims? http://n4g.com/news/479952/...

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Convas4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present, for your consideration ...

... the Gaming world's equivalent of The Birther Movement.

We literally now have "gamers" arguing that Microsoft, a multinational company that has produced countless products in the past, needs to announce officially that they've cleared the FCC, a process that has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER garnered any attention, except now. Because it's "M$".

We've hit a very, very, very new low here folks.

tiffac0084649d ago

I don't get it either. Too much drama over nothing.

I mean FCC approval arguments... -_-

RavageX4649d ago

To be honest with you this WHOLE damn thing has been sad.

Sad from the day MS did their console reveal.

The only plus so far as been the fact gamers stood against the crap they were pulling.

Things should have calmed down after MS did their flipping, at least to the point where games are the main discussion, but instead we have this kinda BS.

What does THIS have to do with gaming? Not a damn thing.

BallsEye4649d ago

Bad news about XO give Sony fanboy clicks therefore more and more crap articles like the one about FCC come out. And of course lets not forget who approves them.

rainslacker4649d ago

There's ways to search that information out if people are so inclined. Someone above posted a link, although it's for the controller it appears, and don't see an approval, but was filed last month. I tried, but couldn't find anything, but companies can request their documents be held confidential, so I dunno.

I don't know why MS would lie about something like this. I'm sure the truth would come out, and it's such a petty thing to argue over. MS releases so many things that require FCC approval, I'm sure they have an entire department just for that.

Nocando4649d ago

It's because Sony fans hate MS more than they love gaming.

Ju4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Maybe. W/e. Call me one of those. But I don't like MS because I love games.

The best ever that came out from MS was keeping Sony at their toes and brought them back down to earth.

But seriously. Everything this company touches goes down the drain. And into their own pockets. And for the people arguing how much MS invests into research and welfare - that's like preaching to a bank robber because he donates 20% what he stole in the first place. Yep, that's OT, and a rant. But gotta say it. At least once.

Do we really want MS to dominate this market segment, too? Really? You were/are fine with their policies, huh. Or not? re 180s...

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Eddie201014649d ago

Who cares we all knew they were going to get FCC certification anyway.

By the way the Xbox fanboys were just as bad about this subject as the Sony fanboys were.

Ripsta7th4648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

Actually the Sony fans felt bad about some PS fanboys here that a miracle may have occured on this article... for ONCE i saw them united

Eddie201014648d ago

You prove what ass holes Xbox fans can be.

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3-4-54649d ago

XB1 made mistakes BEFORE PS4.

This article is stupid.

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jessupj4648d ago (Edited 4648d ago )

Wow, so many MS fanboys in this article that have crawlen out of their caves.

I guess when it's the first good news about the X1 since literally E3 they have to run with it.

And now all of a sudden the FCC is unimportant?

The smugness in these comments is making me physically ill.

For the rest of the actual decent MS fans, I'm happy for you.

droc11234648d ago

Its amazing to see how a simple comment about u being happy that both consoles passed certification and that ur excited for this holiday season can generate dislikes.. I don't get. but I too am excited for this holiday seasons!

droc11234648d ago

Its amazing to see how a simple comment about u being happy that both consoles passed certification and that ur excited for this holiday season can generate dislikes.. I don't get it. But I too am excited for this holiday seasons! great to be a gamer right now.

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iamnsuperman4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I said this in the other article that someone post this.

"I am not calling him a liar but why haven't they released it or why hasn't anyone seen it. One sure fire why to disprove something is to show it"

Why hide it? If it has been through the FCC then why don't they post something about it (considering everyone thinks they haven't. It would instantly stop those people bring it up). Just seems odd

vigilante_man4649d ago

I agree. If you have it, show it. It gives confidence to those who have pre-ordered.

There must be details on this somewhere...

UnHoly_One4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

See, that's exactly it, Vigilante.

It doesn't "give confidence" to those that have pre-ordered.

You know why??

BECAUSE NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT IT.

Nobody, not one person that actually WANTS to buy an XB1 cares for one second about an FCC certification. 99% of them probably never even heard of such a thing.

The ONLY people that care are the Sony Defense Force who want to use it as part of their smear campaign against MS.

You guys seriously pick the most asinine things to complain about, too...

FCC certification, AA Batteries, a power brick, and the fact that the console is two inches bigger than the PS4.

Seriously??? Whoopty-Freakin-Doo.

We are 3 months away from finally having 2 new consoles to put in our entertainment centers, and you guys are so far up Sony's backside that you have to come up with crap like this to slam the competition?

Give it a rest. Nobody that has any common sense gives a crap about any of these things.

Which is why you don't see the "Xbots" spewing similar crap back about the PS4. Those of us that like Xbox, or like both consoles have enough sense to realize that things like this simply don't matter.

spektical4649d ago

AA batteries are a legitimate complaint. I'm sorry I just dont feel like scrounging middle earth for AA batteries.

CerebralAssassin4649d ago

Honestly who cares when it passes fcc. Only thing consumers should care about is the price tag, release date, and launch titles. People should not concern themselves with the logistics of things like fcc approval. Quite frankly, they dont have to say anything other then a release date.

KwietStorm_BLM4649d ago

Which they haven't, which further fueled the debate about the FCC filling. People are concerned about it's release. Kinda silly to say, "honestly who cares when it passes FCC."

JeffGUNZ4649d ago

@ KwietStorm.

MS was waiting for Sonys launch date. Expect MS to announce their launch date at Pax. I still have a strong feeling it will launch with COD Ghosts.

CerebralAssassin4649d ago

Theres no reason to debate about the fcc approval. The only thing that should matter is the release date. Even though they havent said anything doesnt mean they dont have a release date. Im sure they are just pulling a page out of sonys book by letting sony take the lead to they can have a better strategy.

this is the first time ive heard of gamers concerning themselves with something like fcc approval. Thats whats silly here. More will people have it as an excuse to jab ms more and its silly.

HiddenMission4649d ago

Who should care you say...well you if you are a potential buyer.

If they haven't passed FCC yet then there could be potential hardware issues. The manufacture of the XB1 just yesterday said they have parts shortages and assembly issues that are so sever that they had to cut yields by almost a million units.

If they don't get through FCC in the next month or so then you the potential buyer of gen 1 XB1's could get possible faulty hardware due to MS rushing to get to market to compete with the PS4...just saying it does matter.

creatchee4649d ago

@CerebralAssassin

"this is the first time ive heard of gamers concerning themselves with something like fcc approval."

Gamers aren't concerned about this - fanboys are. They look for anything that could possibly be perceived (even by the broadest definition of the word) as bad, and jump on it. And pound on it. And jump on it some more. And then drop a piano on it. And then when they are proven wrong, they just find something else to do the same process to.

BattleTorn4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

@Hidden
*reads*
"If they haven't passed FCC yet then there could be potential hardware issues."

*re-reads article* "before PS4"

Then, the PS4 MUST have had hardware issues, if they passed FFC after Xbox, right, right RIGHTR!! (of course not, your logic isn't reversable)

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green4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Because it is not news. It is not a big deal, never will and should never have been one in the first place.

Microsoft announced the Surface end of summer stating the the Surface Pro will go on sale in january. The pro passed certification in December of 2012 and Microsoft never announced it at all

"A few weeks ago, Microsoft re-confirmed that its Surface Pro tablet, running on an Intel chip and with Windows 8 Pro inside, would ship in January with the starting price of $899. Now it looks like the tablet might have quietly gone through the approval process of the US Federal Communications Commission."

http://www.neowin.net/news/...

Apple unveiled the New Ipad on the 7th of March 2012, it passed FCC certification that very day and wento on sale on the 16th of the same month. Do you seriously think that Apple started manufacturing millions of devices after FCC certification then ship them out to retailers in 9 days? http://www.engadget.com/201...

These companies have released hundreds of products, they have the FCC guide book and know it like ABC so they build their devices to those standards. They then have internal teams that test and then re-test and then confirm that they meet all industry standards so they have absolutely nothing to worry about.

You all should please go and educate yourself on all these things before trying to use it to feed fanboy agendas.

iamnsuperman4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Bit it is now news. That is my point. A simple picture that can be tweeted of the document (like we saw with the PS4 FCC stuff) to disprove what people are saying. I am surprised they haven't done this already (even to counter the PS4 FCC "news")

edit: People are concerned about the release date because the original regions are less than before and they haven't even announced a release date yet is bad PR for Microsoft. An FCC document says to people, don't worry we are on track and squashes any bad news about this

XB1_PS44649d ago

FCC, isn't some crazy superhero like feat. When's the last time you saw something revealed and thought, "Oh! I hope this passes the FCC!". It's Microsoft, a multi Billion dollar company. They can pass the FCC just as easy as the bootleg Chinese mp4 players.

SuperLupe4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Dude give it up.

FCC isnt supposed to be news thats why MS didnt bother saying anything about it. Its only become a big deal because Sony made a whole fuss about it while MS were just there chilling.

Calling a November 8th launch.

No_Limit4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I just LOL at these comments. Why would FCC certification ever a huge thing for companies that require them to hold a press conference or dedicate a news release about it? Just because Engadget discovered the FCC approval for the PS4, and it made its round on these message boards and other sites doesn't mean it is such a huge difference maker that it requires official statement from the companies.
FYI, Sony themselves also never made any official comments regarding their FCC certification.

@iamnsuperman below,
"Like I mention above but it is news now since people found that."

That is what both both Major Nelson and Penello just did, they responded to the questions people were asking them with the same identical answers that "XB1 had passed FCC." What else you want MS to do, give you guys a cookie?

iamnsuperman4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Like I mention above it is news now since people found that PS4 document. Add to the fact that people are concerned about the release date as it has yet to be announced (with the other rumours circulating about manufacturing issues and the whole releasing regions being decreased) the FCC approval has become something very important. Just releasing the document gives faith to those who pre-ordered that things are on track and no worried. Good PR

HiddenMission4649d ago

of course they will say that it passed it's their job even if it's untrue.

Major just said yesterday no manufacturing issues and guess what the same day MS's XB1 manufacture came out and said it did have issues...so that is what us adults call being lied to by the companies PR team.

BattleTorn4649d ago

HiddenMission

"they will say that it passed it's their job even if it's untrue"

So, basically, anything (positive) an employee says is most likely lies, cause they're paid? OK.

And, no, the manufactures did not say their having hardware problems. All they said was that Microsoft changed their intially forecasts from 7million units to 6.2 million - due to the low adoption of their included camera.

See what you said is what we adults call 'making sh*t up'

testerg354649d ago

@iamnsuperman, no one that's buying an XB1 was ever worried about FCC approval. I will bet, and I am sure, that it was a Sony fanboy that raised that "concern".

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UnHoly_One4649d ago

Nobody cares about this except you and the rest of the SDF that want every possible excuse to spout Doom and Gloom crap about Xbox.

How many people know the first thing about FCC certification? Almost nobody, because it is just one of those things that happens behind the scenes and we don't need to hear about it.

I'm a huge gadget geek, and have followed countless pieces of electronics up to their release, and I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard jack squat about FCC certification.

No_Limit4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

No kidding, right? Just like how many knew about what HSA/hUMA is until it was bought out that XB1 might not support it and PS4 might. When news broke out at Hotchips that XB1 might indeed support hUMA, the same BS spin came around just like what is happening in this article. Same s#!t, different topic.

UnHoly_One4649d ago

It's always the same with these Sony fans. It's like trying to talk to an insane person.

testerg354649d ago

No_Limit, loved it when news broke out about PS4 supports HSA/hUMA. All of a sudden all Sony fans here knew wtf hUMA is and how awesome it is especially since the X1 might not have it.

N4G Sony fans are incredible. They are all engineers and know the insides of both the PS4 and X1! They argue with devs if the devs spouts good info about MS and how lazy devs are. I'm actually surprised that the PS4 doesn't have more games with all the software coders in here. /s

UnHoly_One4649d ago

Testerg35, maybe that's where all the PS4's crap indie games are coming from. lol

jetlian4648d ago

whats funny is they dont even no what the fcc does! lol the fcc doesn't test the hardware to any real copacity.

The fcc only concern is that XBO doesnt jump on government bands and intercept there comms

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green4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

@iamsuperman

As i mentioned earlier, you all should go and educate yourself. Ever since Microsoft announced that they were transitioning to a device and services company, they generally announce exact release dates of products within a month to a max two month window of the product launching.

You want proof? well here it goes

Microsoft Surface announced June 18th 2012. Exact release date was giving on the 22nd of January stating a date of Feb 9th. http://www.extremetech.com/...

Microsoft Windows 8.1 unveiled in June and release date was announced August 17th stating an October 14th date http://www.ibtimes.com/micr...

Windows Phone 8 unveiled June 2012. Release date was mentioned on the 4th of October with a date giving to be the 29th of October http://thenextweb.com/mobil...

Microsoft not announcing the Xbox One release date now is just their standard way of operating.So you saying that people are worried about FCC certification because they have not revealed the released that now is baffling. Just because Sony has unveiled theirs does not mean that Microsoft needs to follow. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

Capital Dream4649d ago

Who is it for you to say that they never released this information, with all the bullshit that been spurring all around microsoft how could you possibly ever tell. Face it you guys really have some deep down inside issue's.

JokesOnYou4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

lol, because its never been necessary, wii u launched the next gen with no annoucement as far as I know. FCC certification is NOT a quality check or status of production indicator so saying it passed FCC dors not mean they are behind or ahead in production or that there are no problems with software or hardware. Just because sony goes public about FCC doesnt mean micro has to. If they had said it before or after sony you g I ys would say "who cares its just fcc".

WhiskyWhiskers4649d ago

Just goes to show how retarded this site is. I say the exact same thing basically about FCC not being a quality check. Just worded differently and I get a massive amount of disagrees.

You say the same exact thing. You have zero. Fucking dumb.

nukeitall4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Seriously?

You still doubt them?

Take a look at the *facts*, not the rumors!

* specs upgraded

* fcc approval of Xbox One prior to PS4 (i.e. prior to July 22)

However, fangirls will claim production problems, why is MS hiding and MS are lying. The same usual suspects, when the facts are out by MS officials. Straight from the horses mouth!

I frankly do NOT think MS could say anything and be believed even if they showed proof in your face!

JokesOnYou4649d ago

lol , who tried to "hide" anything? It's never been an issue and its not standard practice to announce fcc certification, this is typical fanboy nonsense because you are looking for a reason to spread misinformation to legitimize BS rumors of production problems.

Deadpoolio4649d ago

Which just proves that Yes in fact they are having issues with the One80...If they went first, and they are only targeting 6.2 million consoles for 13 launch countries down from their original 7 million and 21 countries...Then they are without a doubt having issues, especially when Sony puts out figures that they are targeting 16 million in the 32 launch countries

mwjw6964643d ago

Go troll someplace else, no one knows the launch figures.

Don't shit in my hand and call it a sandwich...

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NateCole4649d ago

lol! there you go. Early,mid or late Nov release it is.

Gazondaily4649d ago

Lol well yeah, you've just identified all parts of November lol. I suspect it will come out a week before PS4 in Europe. That way MS can capitalise on the Fifa thing as well as the mad Xmas rush.

Deadpoolio4649d ago

Even though it's more than likely going to be the original rumor of Nov 22-27th but Xbots can be free to dream....Pretty sad though that they're admitting they went first, BUT had to cut 21 countries down to 13 and 7 million consoles down to 6.2 million. when Sony who went 2nd supposedly has stated 16 million consoles for 32 launch countries.....

But that just goes along with Major Microsoft lying yesterday about how they are not having issues only to have the actual manufacture of the product come out hours later to confirm that YES there are production issues.....

This is just like confirming your having production issues when you have been producing your product longer supposedly yet have to slash your launch countries and shipping amounts......But I guess what do you expect Xbots are stupid and don't actually use their brains

WhiskyWhiskers4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

Lol people actually trust a word this guys says after all the times he has straight up lied before.. I am not going to comment on the entire FCC thing really but to trust that guy cmon. I really don't care who was inspected first.

Just based on everything around us. It sure seems to be quite the opposite about production. They can't offer it to nearly as many countries as the PS4 is right now currently.

Seems like if it was in production longer and had plans before, then it would be seeing a lot more places than the PS4 is.

The PS4 is going to be available in 32 countries while the Xbox One is only in 13... I think that is plenty enough proof to assume Sony has been at this way longer let alone had been planning it longer.

Not gonna act like Sony has always been perfect here but this time around they aren't screwing around with this PS4.

vigilante_man4649d ago

He may be a clown but even he is not going to lie about this. That would be professional suicide!

vigilante_man4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I wouldn't get this many Disagrees if I farted in public!!!

torchic4649d ago

^^
had a good laugh at that!

Capital Dream4649d ago

I'm sorry I had to lol on your last comment

lastofgen4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

well, it's been confirmed by two company representatives...so I'll take their word over anyone else's.

WhiskyWhiskers4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

I was talking about production. Not FCC certification. All you need for FCC certification is basically papers..

Has nothing to speak for when it comes to actual production of these machines.

JeffGUNZ4649d ago

Do you want them to take a picture of their warehouses or something? When did proof of mass production ever matter, ever?! Come on people, I know this is a heavily dominated PS4 site, but now we are just gasping for straws at this point. Why not let the systems launch, wait a good year, and see what's happening. Right now everyone is spewing BS and lopsided opinions.

JeffGUNZ4649d ago

@ WhiskyWhiskers. You can't really count how many countries. You really need to look at the biggest gaming markets. Right now, the biggest is the US and then several countries throughout Europe. Half of those countries sony is launching don't even add up to half of what the US or Europe Market will do. This generation will be neck and neck just like the last one. I hope it is, the stiffer the competition, the better the products for us.

Clarence4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

@Jeffgunz
That's a retarded statement. Every sale counts regardless of how small it is. M$ would love to release in as many countries as Sony, but they can't because they are not prepared.

They have more money than Sony but but their production is behind. Now their racing to get enough Xbox 1s completed in ordered to compete with the PS4.

Hell they just lowered the amount of Xbox 1s that would be released due to yield problems on different components such as the optical drive.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

If they were further ahead than Sony who stated the PS4 has been in development for the last 5yrs, why hasn't anybody figured out this yield problem?

Someone needs to be fired if they can't figured this out.

JeffGUNZ4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

How is that a retarded statement? First off, "retard" mean slow, so you're statement makes no sense. Additionally, my main point is you could sell to a country like italy, which isn't nearly the size of America, which is low on the gaming market scale. All these systems will be sold basically everywhere, but it makes sense for MS to push it on the territories they want to continue to win, AKA America and part of Europe. I am not saying those markets that are significantly smaller are not important, but in reality, the USA is the biggest market for gaming, hands down. By the end of the first year, the sales figures will be pretty close and competitive with the PS4 and the Xbox One.

n4rc4649d ago

"They can't offer it to nearly as many countries as the PS4 is right now currently. "

Highly customized hardware vs off the shelf parts.. This isn't a beef, mearly what's been reported.. Its seems common sense that they are a little more intensive to build..

Not matching sonys launch isnt a sign of a problem..

torchic4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

what? are you actually serious?

have you not read/watched/heard any of Cerny's keynotes? he himself said that the GPU is highly customised and "futureproof"

obviously the PS4 isn't just GPU, CPU & some RAM shoved together a-la gaming rigs. I would provide links to prove my point but c'mon man, there are gazillions of articles containing Mark Cerny keynote speech summaries.

are we really going to sit here and dismiss the PS4 because we now know that Microsoft added a few customisations to the architecture, when above everything else all the rumoured specs turned out to be true?

cmon guys, stop that bullshit. we're talking about Sony here, co-brains behind the CELL and not any old company. if Microsoft were really that bullish about their hardware they'd come out and say so.

Microsoft is struggling with mass-production, why? definitely not because Xbox One is some crazy customised piece of hardware.

Clarence4649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

@n4rc
Yeah ok. Every piece of hardware that M$ builds has issues. They won't even build a controller that doesn't use AA batteries.

rainslacker4649d ago

Mind if I ask? Where exactly did this off-the-shelf argument come from? I've seen it repeated by several people and I just don't get it. Please, link me these "reported" articles saying Sony is using off-the-shelf parts.

For one, the APU isn't even on the shelf yet. Believe the general consumer level APU is set for release mid-2014.

For two, it's already been stated numerous times by Mark Cerny, several respectable tech sites, and AMD itself, that it is highly customized, same as the X1. AMD even went on to say that Sony made an "interesting choice" when DESIGNING the chip and they were interested to see how it worked out.

Basically, if the PS4 is considered off-the-shelf, then the X1 is too, because they both took a basic design and modified it heavily to achieve the results they want.

ziggurcat4649d ago

"Highly customized hardware vs off the shelf parts.."

prove PS4 uses off-the-shelf parts. you're the third xbox troll to make this claim, and so far none of you have been able to provide any proof.

Ju4649d ago

The other point of view would be overly complicated custom chip with 0 performance benefit over the simpler PS4 implementation causing the chip size to be huge, yields harder to manage, and sources of errors more likely. Sure. If that's your kind of thing. Go for it. We knew how this ended this gen. At least one of those companies was/is a HW manufacturer.

ziggurcat4649d ago

you know, stealth disagreeing isn't providing proof of off-the-shelf parts.

still waiting...

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Clarence4649d ago

I agree. If their further along why is it that their only releasing in 13 countries. M$ is lying. They don't want anyone to think the Xbox 1 is in trouble because its behind Sony.

stuna14649d ago

Question to everyone disagreeing with facts! People act like Microsoft is new to the game of lying, were they forthcoming about RROD? No! Were they forthcoming about Kinects? No! Were they even forthcoming about a myried amount of false misrepresentation issues, false claims, back-peddling in just the past couple of months? A resounding No! And I don't even need to go into details, because you all have bourne witness to it.

When Angry Joe asked the question to Major Nelson, as far as Kinects was concerned, didn't Major Nelson, lie!? Yes he did! He said Kinects couldn't be turned off, but it could be.

There is proof the Xbox 1 is experiencing technical issue, but as so many are quick to point out, only Sony fanboys can see them! Do people realise how retarded that sounds?

Specs released on the Xbox 1, somehow makes the system operate on a new plane of existence! Yet their in fact really no different from what was already reported. A cloud based online that is better than the military? I don't know! What I do know is Microsoft is not above embellishing their claims to further their goals, or to those who don't understand, lying.

Now commence to disagreeing with facts!

ImG2theB4649d ago

FCC has nothing to do with production

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vigilante_man4649d ago

Just need a release date... this week.... when you're ready.... no rush...

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio21d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing21d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9221d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit21d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing21d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9221d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay23d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn224d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn223d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown23d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay23d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay23d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac23d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger24d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300024d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde24d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde23d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

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Agent7525d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_22d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.