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Dear Microsoft: Stay the hell away from PC gaming

Steve Ballmer announced that he’ll be stepping down as the CEO of Microsoft within the next year. The Surface RT was a costly flop. The company is in a transitional phase, and this has led some people to speculate that, hey, maybe Microsoft will have a renewed interest in PC gaming!

Dear God, no

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TomShoe4672d ago

YEAH RIGHT THEY SHOULD GO TO PC AND PUT DA FIRSHT PARTY TITLES ON DA PC SO DEY CAN MAKE DA MONEEEZ

PUT TITANFAWL AND DA FORZA AND DA SUNLIGHT UNDERDRIVE ON DERE SO WE DONT HAVE TO BUY DA SHITBOX ONE LOLOLOLOL

/sarcasm

minimur124671d ago

.....Microsoft own windows... therefor they ARE PC gaming - Games aren't played on Mac(as much) all on windows. a MS product.

lol

Indo4671d ago

The software not the hardware.

aquamala4671d ago

The only part MS makes money on PC gaming are the Windows licenses, that's it. they don't get a penny on PC game sales.

Blackdeath_6634671d ago

they have nothing to do with PC gaming. Games for windows live was such and atrocious and broken service they are supposedly shutting it down and i hope they never touch PC gaming.

clouds54671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

True, but they show amazingly little effort even though they own basically all of PC gaming.

All I want from Microsoft is to put "exclusiv" xbox one game on PC. Doesn't need to be right away, timely exclusive is fine.
But its kind of stupid that they develop x86 games on PC and then they won't come out for PC? That's like making an offroad car and selling it only with race track tires or something...

So MS I wont buy your new console just for those exclusives as I haven't bought a 360 for them. But I would buy them games^^ And I can imagine it would not be that big of an effort to "port" those x86 games to THE x86 platform?

r1sh124671d ago

The writer of this is a complete clown.
Im not sure if he is referring to games for windows or what, but he is clearly confused.

starchild4671d ago

I don't want another Games For Windows Live, but there are other ways that Microsoft could help strengthen PC gaming that would be good for PC gamers and for them.

Red_Devilz4671d ago

This statement is wrong at so many levels. When we say MS from XBox standpoint, we bear in mind that whatever transactions happen (game purchases including disc, DLC, other paid content) in XB ecosystem, MS gets large share of it directly.
In other words XB game/content sale = more revenue for MS.

But, if you look at PC gaming, even though OS is from MS, there is no ecosystem on PC that MS can get revenue from (at least not as profitable as XB). So, even though every PC game runs on windows, MS doesn't get a single penny revenue out of it. Even though MS has large market share in "PC gaming platform" (not development), there is absolutely no revenue for MS through it.

This is exactly the difference between PC software sales and Apple Appstore sales, where Apple gets some share out of each transaction.

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GamerzElite4671d ago

Windows selling OS to PC user, once they sold it, their job has been done, thats it. MS havn't right to control the content on ur PC. I think this article means bring XBox games to PC.

Blackdeath_6634671d ago

assuming ofcourse the PC user actually bought their OS.

come_bom4671d ago

What a LAME article. How did this get approved!

ApolloTheBoss4671d ago

Because N4G. Don't tell me you're surprised.

FriedGoat4671d ago

Titanfall is coming for PC anyway, Thats where I'm buying it.

awi59514671d ago

Games for windows is total crap if you made a offline save file on games for windows games. A update corrupted all your game saves and their is no way to fix them thats why i will hate it forever.

ATi_Elite4671d ago

1. See that picture? That's a LAN Party. I've been to Lan parties that size and they give out cool prizes all weekend long plus they have Dance floors, a bar, bungie jumping in the parking lot, go-carts and Sofa rooms to just hang out and chat. Super Duper fun times.

So DAM you and your buddy playing on your mothers couch eating up the Doritos. Lan Party is where it's at.

2. Microsoft sucks as a PC Gaming supporter. They learned from PC gaming took that knowledge and went and made the Xbox.

End of Story.

3. No PC gamer wants MS on the PC side except to port over those 360 games (which they will, hey it's easy $$$$$$)

4. Steambox/Valve/Lynix will make having a Windows OS NO LONGER NECESSARY to play PC games. The code (Wrapper) is already there, Gabe has verified this several times.

(I think MS is throwing huge amounts of cash at Gabe to stop this or it's going through the legal mumbo jumbo stuff but it's there and it works)

so Bye bye Windows!

5. DirectX has reached it's end according to MICROSOFT themselves as they have stated NO plans for DX12.....meanwhile most Devs have switched to OpenGL anyway which does the same darn thing but MINUS Microsoft.

6. Microsoft is focusing on the Living room and having a box in between your cable jack and your TV is what they want.

(Which is what Apple is trying to do also, you know Apple, Microsoft's MAIN competitor)

People get so caught up in this PS4/XB1 thing that they forget that Sony and MS are BUSINESS PARTNERS while Apple is Microsoft's and SOny's main competitor.

iPod/iphone KILLED every SOny mobile device for those who have no clue.

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ElementX4672d ago (Edited 4672d ago )

Pc gaming is Microsoft (Windows). No other OS has the amount of developer support

Shinox4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

Then why would they bring a console called "XBOX" out of nowhere and shove it up our throats when they already have their own machine called "PC" , Greedy M$ they are so jealous of how Console gaming makes money

kornbeaner4671d ago

Because it's a way to get your brand out to more people. Plus MS doesn't make money per games sold on PC/Windows. If I wanted to, I can make a game, sell it and MS wouldn't get a cut. Unlike with Consoles, every game sold on the Wii U,PS4 and Xbox One. Those manufactures get a cut, so why wouldn't you bring out a console if you can and survive , there is money to be made there if successful.

Also a console offers Developers an easier way to develop, developers only have to know what the PS4, XB1 and Wii U are capable of, they don't have to take into account the many configuration there maybe for all the gaming capable PCs, so it's easier overall.

Really the reasons to why MS entered the console market are many.

Shinox4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

@kornbeaner What in the world are you talking about ?

I'm talking about the past in you talk about the present, Who gives a crap about M$ present and how much money they make !?

M$ is Not Sony or Nintendo or Sega or even Atari in the first place to compare with , they are a Software Company and they has nothing to do with console gaming "to begin with" , Quit defending them there's no excuse to defend on how or why the bring the "XBOX" thing in the first place in the name of "competition"

No_Limit4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

@Shinox
"they are a Software Company and they has nothing to do with console gaming "to begin with"

excuse me, before the PSOne release, was Sony always a console gaming company? think about that for a second.

starchild4671d ago

Shinox, you people with your double standards are ridiculous.

Shinox4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

@No_Limit

First of all : this is an Entertainment company
and second of all I'll leave this link here to reveal the amount of ignorance in your head !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

@starchild

i'd rather be ridiculous with my "double standards" than being a blind sheeple who accept anything from this company .

No_Limit4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

@Shinox,

Your link just proved my point. ;)

I said: "excuse me, before the PSOne release, was Sony always a console gaming company? think about that for a second."

From your link http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc.
" The company was established on November 16, 1993 in Tokyo, Japan, prior to the launch of the original PlayStation video game system"

Sony was founded in 1955. Nice spin there buddy.

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Sideras4671d ago

It will go eventually. Everyone know linux is superior, like you said Windows has the majority of the developers support.
The standard must change, and it will if Valve has their way.

starchild4671d ago

I don't want to switch completely to Linux. It is an inferior operating system with less support.

If games switched over to Linux and the rest of the world didn't, we would be stuck having to dual boot or have a gaming PC that didn't have as broad a range of non-gaming software support.

Not to mention, DirectX is largely what allows us to have backwards compatibility. Switching completely over to linux would end that backwards compatibility.

No thanks. I'm not against Linux at all. I think it is nice in many ways and brings competition. At the same time, though, I've never really had a problem with Windows at all. For me personally I just don't think it is worth it at this time.

FighterJoe4671d ago

All I want from Microsoft is to make a new Flight Simulator, and not like that rubbish attempt that was MS Flight.

dcj05244671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

YES!! I played the crap out of the 2004 one. The graphics breathtaking and so real ( back then) and I loved flying the airplanes to actual cities. God I want another one with vastly improved graphics and. Oh god. Oculus rift support.

aliengmr4671d ago (Edited 4671d ago )

Like everything else to do with PC gaming they quit that too. Besides there are far better flight sims out these days.

FighterJoe4670d ago

"Besides there are far better flight sims out these days. "

Not when it comes to addons for commerical airline simulation, FSX still reigns supreme. With developers like PMDG, FSLabs, Majestic etc creating the most accurate simulations of Boeings/Airbus/Dash-8 sort of level D sims.

Megaton4671d ago

They're dismantling GFWL, which is a great thing. They'll probably try to hide some games in the Windows 8 store, though. I had no idea BlazBlue was even on PC until last week. Apparently it was hidden exclusively in the GFWL market.

luoshuigui4671d ago

Arent that what they've been doing all these years? Remember a few years back when Microsoft had all those amazing titles like Age of Empire, Rise of Nations, Age of Mythology, Freelancer, Zootycoon? They basically laid off all of their talent and continues spew out piece of shit like Halo or Gears games. I think it's pretty clear they DO stay away from PC as far as possible.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio39d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing39d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit39d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing39d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay41d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn242d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn241d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown41d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay41d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay41d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac41d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger41d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300041d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde41d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde41d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7543d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_40d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.