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Hate DLC? You know Microsoft’s Xbox 360 created it right?

Agh…DLC, DLC, DLC look what you have done to the game industry.

Most gamers share a common attitude toward DLC (Downloadable Content) and it’s of the negative nature. Not because we don’t like extra content but because of how DLC has evolved into a petty way for Publishers and Developers to extract money from consumers — the very consumers who support their product to no end. Well…you can thank Microsoft for that.

Ok created may be too strong of a word as “DLC” was around to some degree prior but for something that was originally intended to be used sparingly the Xbox 360 surely made it a household practice. What started off as a innocent way for developers to prolong our adventures and give gamers more content (or all content) started to become a trendy business practice and adopted a “Cause I can” business model. How you say?

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IanVanCheese4653d ago

Title is a bit flamebait but the article itself is solid.

Bigpappy4653d ago (Edited 4653d ago )

DLC was on PC looong before M$ had an Xbox. So yeah, flamebait.

DoomeDx4653d ago

What!? Who agreed with you?

DLC has always been free for the PC. Until the xbox360 came out.

HammadTheBeast4653d ago

That wasn't DLC. Those were expansion packs, most were free, unless they were massive amounts of content, enough to make up at least a third of a new game.

But now, we have old maps being sold as DLC, 4 maps (lol) for $15?

Remember the days when map packs were free as patches?

RyuCloudStrife4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

Microsoft killed the gaming Industry. Everything is cash, they pay cash for exclusivity and wanted you (not me cuz I will never buy an Xbox console), to pay for playing used games.

Thanks to us PlayStation gamers that didn't happen.

darthv724652d ago

DLC: 'D'own 'L'oadable 'C'ontent
that acronym covers pretty much anything that is released after the fact in digital form for an exiting game or application.

Expansion packs are DLC. Patches are DLC. Player skins, character models, weapons packs are all DLC.

Now the idea of DLC was one that was meant to expand the relevance of a game in the form of small batches of content that were released afterwards.

It wasnt until later on that there would be some to come along and exploit that idea and effectively ruin the concept for others who were just trying to keep people into playing their game.

Just like many things in life, they start out with good intentions until someone comes along with $$$ in their eyes and feel they can profit off the idea and then pretty much it spreads like a bad STD.

MS isnt solely to blame like the flaimbait title suggests. But having a title like simply: "Hate DLC? You know it started on PC right?" is not as much of an attention grabber.

With consoles being able to connect to the internet it was inevitable for them to evolve and be prone to taking part in the age of digital continuation of content.

Hicken4652d ago

@darth: Let's be real here. When people talk about DLC, they're talking about post-release content you pay for that isn't as big as an expansion pack. Though now it's not necessarily post-release, but off-disc... though even that's no longer the case.

In any case, expansion packs and patches were never considered DLC. In fact, you're the ONLY person I've ever seen try to claim game patches were DLC.

You've really got it bad, this excusing Microsoft thing.

Scholla4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

That's the weirdest thing, my post is not showing up on N4G.

darthv724652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

@hicken. show me where in my post am I excusing ms of anything. in fact the only reference is my saying they arent solely to blame.

Also, not every piece of post release content has a price tag on it. I think your comprehension skills are whats really bad here.

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ABeastNamedTariq4653d ago

Horse armor started this! HORSE ARMOR!

AceBlazer134653d ago

oh micro past present and future you fuck shit up.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio20d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing20d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit20d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing20d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay22d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn222d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn222d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown22d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay22d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay22d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac21d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger22d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300022d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde22d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde21d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7523d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_21d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.