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PS4 Vs Xbox One: AMD Retracts Performance Comparison

"AMD move to retract comments about an alleged performance gap between the PS4 and Xbox One."

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ZodTheRipper4650d ago

Of course they have to say this since both manufacturers are their partners ...but the explanation about "hUMA" was pretty in-depth in fact.

xHeavYx4650d ago

Microsoft: "Hey, here is some $$$$, retract your comments"
AMD: "an AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding the details of our semi-custom APU architectures...."

pedrof934650d ago

Ps4 is more powerfull.

The End.

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Insomnia_844650d ago

They are not supposed to state facts like that. Lol

nightfallfilms4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

@ xHeavYx Your telling people to go cry, maybe that is what you should do since you seem to have no life beyond posting comments bashing a company on the internet. On topic, not sure why AMD would have made this comment to begin with seeing as MS and Sony are partners of theirs. Seems like AMD would have broke some kind of Non Disclosure agreement or something. Regardless the info that they stated was unfortunately probably true making Sony's machine even more powerful than the Xbox One.

AlexanderNevermind4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

To late for that...the cat is out of the bag. Actually the retraction just fans the flames at this point

MajorLazer4650d ago

You talk about stating facts yet it is you who is posting baseless assumptions; 'hey here is some $$$$'..

SpringHeeledJack4650d ago

Well judging by the disagrees on pedrof so far, we have at least 20people who still think xboxone is more powerful lol. Must be xbox shill accounts because i just don't believe that many still think that.

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Anarki4650d ago

Apparently telling the truth gets u branded a fanboy these days. Suck it up...

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darthv724650d ago

@pedro...

"Ps4 is slightly more powerfull.

The End."

all fixed for ya. ;-)

NextGen24Gamer4650d ago

Yea except he said the the comments were Inaccurate. Of course they get paid by both companies and they shouldn't comment on either. But he did clarify that once again, the previous comments were "inaccurate".

This whole power struggle is funny. All that will matter is the games when they are in our hands.

None of you are developers, none of you have played the games, but yet you all feel that "numbers" on paper equate to better games.

That couldn't be farther from the truth.

Example: "E3"

Example: "360 vs Ps3 the first 8 years"

What I don't get is this....

Why does anyone care if one console has more raw power, if both consoles can do 1080p 60fps games?

If one console has more raw power, and can push a few more frames per sec, who cares if they both run & look like a dream compared to what we have had in the current gen?

It's weird to me.

It's pretty simple. Buy, play, support the console that has the GAMES that you want to play. Enjoy those games. What do you gain by putting down or bashing the console you didn't chose to purchase?

I've been a gamer for 25 years. I have never gone a generation without buying every console released. I want to experience it all.

I loved my dreamcast...to me it had the best games...though the ps2 was way more powerful, It wasn't until 4 years into the ps2 lifecycle that I really started playing it.

My point, play what you want to play.

Maybe you can only afford one console and you chose the IndieStation 4, that's all good, but just because you can't afford the xbox one, don't bash the gamers who chose TitanFall, Forza, Halo, Gears of War, Dead Rising, etc.

No Real gamer can deny that those are BLOCKBUSTER Games based on sales, and game scores.

Just like no real gamer can deny that God of War, Ratchet and Clank, The last of us, etc are great games.

Why can't a website that's called News for Gamers be a little more mature in our conversations and have more respect for ALL gamers?

Or is it filled with 12 yr olds?

GraveLord4650d ago

I don't think they paid them off at all, just threatened them with a lawsuit.

SilentNegotiator4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

One day they describe a performance gap, the next day it doesn't exist?

lol

Did Microsoft scold you, AMD?

FamilyGuy4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

More like
*MS calls up AMD threatening to sue*

*AMD instantly retracts previous comments attempting to be agnostic*

Yet no retraction on saying "With the PS4 we've built THE MOST POWERFUL APU..."

In any case we all know the PS4 is more powerful. Sony says it all the time: "we've built the most powerful console...", MS never denies it and only focuses on their Cloud technology.

Why is it even an argument?

Regarding hUMA specifically; Anyone that read the in-depth description on what it is would know that even if the X1 has it too, or some form of it, that the PS4 version of it will be better. The PS4s memory bandwidth alone supports this.

mewhy324650d ago

Shame on AMD for stating facts about PS4 being vastly superior to the over priced 1980's VCR looking bone. shame shame shame LOL.

XboxFun4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

You Sony fanboys love to run off the train tracks with little to nothing to be excited about. First it was RAM you guys ran off with, now it'll be huma. Too funny.

As stated previously, both consoles will play fantastic games. Xbox one has already proved with it's launch games that it's power is on parity with anything PS4 has right now. And these are only launch titles. It'll only get better as time goes by.

But please keep screaming Huma or whatever. Keep nitpicking at irrelevant little stories, then post elsewhere how you'll just wait for these great and exciting Xbox One exclusives to "hopefully" come to your PS4.
Or, you can do what I'm going to do and just get a Xbox One.

FITgamer4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

More companies that work with both Sony and Microsoft should up play PS4, then Microsoft will pay them to retract statements. Easy money baby!

Gamingcapacity4650d ago

MS would of not been happy with them. AMD do not want to piss off MS because at the end of the day they are business partners.

Although the AMD statement is probably true it wasn't a great dicision to make the MS's greatest rival more powerful. Since AMD are in a contract with MS & Sony and are being paid millions by MS and Sony they pretty much have to do keep quiet on any comparisons.

tokugawa4650d ago

heavy and what facts are you actually speaking then??

pot meet kettle

BallsEye4650d ago

Untill I see a good looking game on ps4 I dont believe anything that is said. MS showed awesome looking games. Sony showed only tech demo. Knack looks like crap graphically. Drive club is behind forza and KZ2 looses with multiplatform battlefield 4. Sony show us that your console is powerfull! Stop the talk already.

starchild4650d ago

Or maybe an AMD representative opened their mouth and got some stuff wrong, so other people within the company have to step forward to correct those erroneous statements.

Either way, based on the info we have seen so far the PS4 is clearly more powerful. But power isn't everything for a console. If power is what you guys are after you should all join us on the PC.

tokugawa4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

i just gave nowgamers some hits to read their slanted especially for hits rubbish. and almost certainly wrote with n4g in mind.

anyway, on monday morning at 10am california time, microsoft will be on stage immediately after AMD to talk about the xbox one silicon at hotchips.

it is interesting because i cannot imagine microsoft going to hotchip, to talk about two year old silicon. (well that is what everyone assumes is in the xbo) especially when hotchip is about future tech.

all should be revealed next week.

and one way or the other, it will be tears or cheers... depending on what side of the fence you sit.

personally, saving the announcement for hotchip, i think that crows could become and endangered species by next weekend

DeFFeR4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

This whole comment stream is full of idiots.

Must every comment section devolve into name-calling and other stupid shit?

When I got here years ago, we talked games. We didn't give a shit which console was "better" - we all agreed that gaming was fun, and N4G was a nice place to congregate and talk games. We used to mark trolls as trolls, and they'd go away. Now it's all talk about megahertz and RAM speed/style... and the trolls are more prevalent than ever. And it's not just one "side" more than the other - both "sides" are guilty of it.

This used to be a great resource for people to find news, now it's just a cesspool of idiocy and retardation.

$0.02

mcstorm4650d ago

Really do you guys ever give it a rest? Ok the ps4 has more power than the Xbox one and Wiiu great because its power that matters in gaming.

Look at the history and you will see power has nothing to do with anything its all about the games.

Now that said its not about one game being the best its about what gamea you like the most or what games you want.

If you want kz, lbp ect you need a ps4
If you want halo, forza ect you need a Xbox one
If you want Mario, Zelda ect you need a Wiiu.

Really it is that simple. If you buy a console on which has the most power then good for you but for me being a gamer I buy a console no matter who makes it as long as they have the game I want on it.

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blackbeld4650d ago

Yep, everybody already knows this.

PS4 is more powerful then the xbox uno.

Xbox fanboys just don't want to admit the facts.

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pixelsword4650d ago

That's the thing: if Marc Dana spoke incorrectly, then AMD would have used facts to correct him; but since they merely replied with a "no comment", it seems that he was correct. Besides, why wouldn't he know the power of each? AMD is making themselves look stupid by suggesting they send uninformed agents to represent themselves.

clonerz4650d ago

@ heavy I give you bubble for what you said below.The problem is the Xbox one supporters can't handle the truth they need to justify the extra hundred dollar they are spending for a console with less value.This gen was much the same no one can argue at this point in time that ps3 was more powerful than Xbox 360 but a good argument can be made that it came a year later so it should be.But not this time around they are both coming out within a few weeks or maybe even days before each other. I for one will not be supporting Microsoft anymore but I'm sure all third party games will look pretty much the same on both consoles its the exclusives that will tell a different tale in two or so years from now and I'm betting on Sony to come out on top with best in game graphics of this upcoming gen.

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t3rrorc3ll4650d ago

@elite24gamer. You carry on about buying all consoles each generation then you label the PS4 the indiestation4 fanboy much? Look I'm glad you like the same rehashed games over and over again enjoy your first year of exclusives because once Microsoft see the one isn't selling to plan they WILL drop it like a rock like they've done with so many of their products in the past

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user55757084650d ago

someone at AMD messed up...clearly any comments about ps4 being better were supposed to be kept silent

xHeavYx4650d ago

@Gman
You call me Sony's #1 fanboy, then you tell me that my comments lose credibility when I use the word "fanbot"? A bit ironic, don't you think?
Sorry that you feel offended by what I say, I guess that's why people say that the truth hurts

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mistertwoturbo4650d ago

I'm pretty sure Microsoft contacted AMD and was like...

"Hey Bro... soooo what's going on with Marc Dana these days?"

Rimeskeem4650d ago

@negative

stop being so negative

Enemy4650d ago

LMAO too late to take it back, AMD. PS4 is more powerful and you know it. Everyone knows it.

whoyouwit044650d ago

How the hell do you have all those dam bubbles? with all the fan boy trolling BS you put on this site, you should only have one bubble or be banned from commenting on this site. This just proves that N4G is ran by sony fan boys.

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Loki864650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

I'm sorry your original comment about MS paying off AMD to retract comments pretty much tells me that you don't talk facts. The fact is hUMA is an advantage in the architecture that Sony is building with unified RAM, allowing them to read and write information at a faster rate to try an offset the latency created by the RAM type. However, X1 has already stated that they underestimated the fact that the eSRAM can read/write simultaneously something that GDDR RAM cannot do, which increase the throughput for both sensitive and insensitive loads. Also, they have an accelerator of sorts built into the APU to allow for increased performance when the hyper v is not in use. Which means if you play with all apps close it will give you a performance boost because it doesn't have to isolate and store those processes in the CPU cache. So both consoles have their advantage on how they were built and both should continue to see dev take advantage of these features independently.

Ritsujun4650d ago

Girlishman0173 sure was mad.

CommonSense4650d ago

If MS were capable of throwing around all this money you dummies think they have, why wouldn't they just pay AMD to give Sony the inferior tech?

They retracted the statement because it wasn't true, nothing more.

You people are deplorable. Every time i read you idiot comments, i get embarrassed for you. How sad and pathetic your lives must be to have such a strong allegiance to a corporation (Sony).

DonFreezer4649d ago

Shut your mouth.Mark me for trolling and ban me from the ps troll cave as you only ps retards know. 3D sucks ass and will for the next few years.Until then we don't give a shit about Huma.
And also http://n4g.com/news/1338453...

ChrisW4649d ago

I don't care about speculation and rumors...

I'll wait until they are both released and then I'll care about the comparisons.

Ritsujun4649d ago

DonFreezer got don'd by Pon Patrick's freezer.

MrChow6664649d ago

what a sad little person

nukeitall4649d ago

Denial in the face of facts shows you are fangirls!

You know who you are!!!

Fact of the matter are public companies like AMD cannot lie to the public. They can attempt to misrepresent, yet speak the truth.

Unfortunately, for the fangirls, right from the horses mouth, AMD said:

"During a recent Gamescom 2013 interview, an AMD spokesperson made inaccurate statements regarding the details of our semi-custom APU architectures."

Most likely then, both PS4 and Xbox One has some custom technology to do this if they don't have HUMS. Any copying of data and separation from general ram to vram and system ram completely negates unified memory pool.

It would be completely stupendous and negate alo benefits!

In fact, it would become the memory architecture that is on the PS3!

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tuglu_pati4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

@pedrof93

no doubt about that.

Im a gamer and I own and will own every console from the big companies, although I prefer Xbox, there is no denying that the PS4 is more powerful. Anyone saying otherwise is in denial.

Quicktopick4650d ago

I salute u sir for being unbiased like me... lol

RememberThe3574650d ago

If I was a mod I would have bubbled you all the way up. That was like a breath of fresh air at the bottom of the ocean.

Rhaigun4650d ago

I play both as well. I'm getting the PS4 first because they finished stronger this gen by having more exclusive games I couldn't miss.

I'll wind up getting an XBone in a couple years down the line. Especially now that they've changed their policies.

stuna14650d ago

@pedrof93

Why that's so hard for some to understand whether on paper or otherwise! PS4 holds the advantage!

@zod18

That's probably exactly how it played out! It was too in-depth! Even the guy who tried to shoot down the claim didn't even know what it was.

thetruthx14650d ago

The footage of the GAMES between consoles tells me everything I need to know

And Ryse, Dead Rising 3, and Forza take the cake

Happy Birthday Lol

BallsEye4650d ago

funny are people who think game performance is all about GPU. Actually most of it depends on code and drivers. This can be big game changer. DX 11.2 yo!

imt5584650d ago

Well, the games will tell the story.:)

SideShort4650d ago

LOL I remember when the PS3 was so much more powerful than the 360. If that's taught you anything, its to wait and see.

ATi_Elite4650d ago

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Well ain't no retracting those comments son, The cats BEEN out the bag about the PS4 being more powerful and easier to Dev for than the XB1.

I bet you MS now wishes it went with Nvidia/Intel LOL

Ulf4650d ago

Both architectures have hUMA. Anyone who understands hardware at all will realize that this must be the case. They aren't going to redesign the Kaveri architecture to NOT be hUMA, specifically for the XB1 -- that would cost them MORE money, not save it.

The original comparison was between the PS4 and the XBox 360, anyway -- and yeah, the 360 does not use hUMA, while still having a unified architecture.

Some ignorany journalist decided that meant the XB1 didn't have it either. LoL @ that guy.

imt5584649d ago (Edited 4649d ago )

"The 'supercharged' part, a lot of that comes from the use of the single unified pool of high-speed memory," said Cerny. The PS4 packs 8GB of GDDR5 RAM that's easily and fully addressable by both the CPU and GPU.

+ PS4 is very easy for developing games.

hUMA is this : fully addressable memory by both the CPU and GPU at high-speed + very easy game developing. PS4 has both of this, XO doesn't.

Btw. Sony is a member of HSA consortium.

assdan4650d ago

Of course they retracted the statement. I was surprised they said that at all in the first place. Microsoft just payed them off, They've been doing that a lot these days. It's almost like they think money is the only way to talk.

KarrBOMB4649d ago

Microsoft: "Hey AMD, yeah retract that statement or were going with your competitor."

AMD: "Okay, we'll figure out a way to backtrack our statement, but in such a way where were not reversing what we said like you guys do."

Microsoft: "Yeah whatevs, just do it."

marcofdeath4649d ago

http://mygaming.co.za/news/...

"More crucial is how the 8GB of RAM in the PlayStation 4 is utilised. This unified pool is a significant advantage over platforms like PC and PS3, where CPU and graphics RAM takes the form of two entirely separate pools of memory. The PS4 operates a system where memory is allocated either to the CPU or GPU, using two separate memory buses."
Dr. Chris Jenner At Ubisoft Reflections.
So like AMD said no Huma, it's Numa.

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NatureOfLogic4650d ago

MS and AMD can only hide how much weaker the Xbox One is compared to PS4. When they're finally released, the truth will come out.

DevilishSix4650d ago

I don't even need to wait that long, better graphics RAM and a 1/3 more GPU cores is all I really need to know.

tuglu_pati4650d ago

You don't have to wait that long. If i'm not mistaking MS will talk about Xbox1 hardware specs on August 27th.

T24650d ago

I am a sony supporter, but I will still stay on middle ground here and say that this gen will likely be similar to next gen. Yes PS4 may be more powerful and it would be nice if that translated into "instant" load times, very fast downloads, etc...

However, it is still likely that big multiplats like EA will send the same generic games to both systems because really why would you spend an extra $$ to optimize one system. Stating that from a business perspective only.

We may again see some amazing naughty dog exclusives, pushing the envelope. And MAYBE games like planetside 2 that are ported to ps4 may have some optimization built in as they do for pc...

But most of this is conjecture, and we can only wait and see. IF and it's a big IF games like Skyrim were ported FROM pc and were programmed to run at different specs then PS4 MAY see better games.

But don't outweigh the draw of status-quo... companies aren't going to spend big bucks to optimize one version of a game.

MRMagoo1234650d ago

EA has pretty much confirmed Need for speed will be better looking on the ps4 , he said on par with the pc version.

BallsEye4650d ago

Funny how when we got news when some tech guys talk how powerfull XO is all fanboys say IT'S JUST PR TALK! When something good said about sony all of you say you can't hide the fact!!

johndoe112114650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

You need to understand the nature of the beast. Even though your comment is partly true you have to know why that happens.

Both companies are in it for the money and both companies have a history of being dickheads to consumers but you need to understand that microsoft has a much worse reputation when it boils down to it.

Microsoft is synonymous when it comes to shady dealings, bribery, and throwing their money around to buy support and shut people up. Sony, not so much.

Microsoft has created that stigma for themselves and they continue to do things to fester mistrust. How many months did they say that the xbox one could not work without DRM and the kinect only to come after they realized that no one was buying it and change every thing with a simple update.

Microsoft has created this atmosphere and it is very very easy to believe anything negative you hear about them. Call a spade a spade.

BattleTorn4650d ago (Edited 4650d ago )

Or how full of sh*t people on this site are.

One or the other.

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thrust4650d ago

Now that is huma!aras....

gaelic_laoch4650d ago

Well I think the Huma..ine thing to do is just to put the Xbone to sleep at this stage!

ThatCanadianGuy5144650d ago

""AMD will not comment on the Microsoft Xbox One and Sony PS4 memory architectures and will not speak for Microsoft, Sony or other AMD customers."

The cats out of the bag tho.I'll be picking up the console that supports this incredible architecture, however.

Fun fact: Only PS4 supports it.

chopples9994650d ago

Is right we are in an ocean of fud at the moment don't believe everything you read folks

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA17d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY17d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay17d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos17d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7217d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY17d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator17d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum17d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z17d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad17d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga17d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot16d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose17d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE17d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername16d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy17d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde17d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8617d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8617d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole17d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot17d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle17d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7717d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments