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Microsoft Exec Explains Why Xbox One is Delayed in Denmark

Microsoft recently announced that Xbox One will arrive only in 13 countries in November 2013 (as earlier promised 21). Microsoft PR Spokeperson, "Jesper Green Frost)" has revealed why Xbox One has been delayed in Europe.

Jesper Green Frost stated that problems with the chips to the console, extra cache memory, combined GPU / CPU and others are not the reason for Xbox One delay in Europe.

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ShugaCane4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

"He further addded that people should wait for the Xbox One, because the PS4 is only a more powerfull PS3, while the Xbox One is a whole new thing, which brings an entire entertainment system into your home."

Extremely stupid argumentation, especially when the X1 has so far proven to be an accumulation of bad decisions. That 'whole new' thing you presented a few months ago was met with a lot of praise, huh ? This is gaming we're talkin about. People are asking for a gaming console first, not an entertainment hub. At least not as a priority.

iamnsuperman4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Well the quote is really
""I think quite clear you have to wait because Xbox is the only eighth-generation console. A Playstation 4 is, and I am sorry to say, but this is all in my eyes, it's just a stronger Playstation 3 Where I seem to Xbox One brings a whole different paradigm into the console world. Namely entire entertainment system. "

They need to stop doing this. People who buy at launch are predominately gamers. It is hard to take Microsoft approach (and this quote) seriously. You can have the multimedia capabilities but don't shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to gaming. You need to show a gaming focus (as we are the ones who buy first and pre-order the damn thing) and statements like this doesn't help. Us buying at launch has a knock on effect down the road for the rest of the market especially when these multimedia abilities are being seen in TVs as we speak.

Abash4634d ago

In other words, Microsoft's mudslinging really translates them to saying this...

"Damn, we wish Xbox One had the same hype as the PS4"

us_army4634d ago

I couldnt agree more.... Launch purchasers are gamers through and through, and are interested in Hardcore gaming, not jumping around on a camera, or plugging a cable box (which you pay your provider for) into your Xbox, which you pay for Xbox Live, plus you pay for your TV service.... Im sorry, I'll stick to the games.

xHeavYx4634d ago

*Puts on latex gloves*
Ok M$, show me where it hurts

Jdoki4634d ago

Slightly off topic...

Have MS stated how the XB1 will work outside of the US for TV services?

The TV landscape is very different in the UK. US may be their biggest market, but Europe is close behind. I can't see how they will cater to Europe for this 'whole different paradigm' thing.

So far all I've seen is stuff that is very much geared toward the US. Cable for one, but also the links in to sports that are very US-centric. Also, have MS not realised that we're seeing a huge shift to TV on demand rather than scheduled delivery.

nukeitall4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

So how has this entertainment focus, changed video games for the core for the worse?

All I'm seeing is major features related to gaming, and some of the best games for any console.

Do you just have problems because instead of calling it a videogme console, you will have to refer to it as an entertainment console?

It seems odd to me that people are complaining about extra ability. If you wanted the best games hardware could buy, it would be PC and none of this console BS would matter.

gaffyh4634d ago

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that compliance and testing issues for electronics is done EU-wide? So if the console can release in France, it should be able to release in Denmark. If that is the case, it yet again proves that the yield issues are true because they are denying it so strongly and trying to make it out as there is no issue. It is also a little worrying if that is the case, as to whether or not it will affect failure rates on the Xbone in the countries it is launching in.

Second thing, MS is starting to become the same as they were early on on PS3 cycle, with Aaron Greenburg spouting some nonsense constantly. They really need to STFU about the competition, they shouldn't even mention PS3 or PS4, because that in itself is advertising the system.

malokevi4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Yeah its dumb... unless you're actually excited about the prospect of an all-in-one entertainment box.

For me, the XB1 offers everything that I have been dreaming of for the past 8 years while my X360/PS3 have been tripping over themselves. And more.

My cousin is making the switch from Xbox to Playstation in the next generation. He's not the smartest penny in the fountain, but his reason is good.

He told me he wants a gaming console, and that's it. He doesn't want multimedia, doesn't want bells and whistles, doesn't want voice/motion controls. He wants a console that he can buy every iteration of COD and NHL, and play them. Thats pretty much it.

I almost put up the argument: well... PS4 isn't exactly an exclusively games-oriented console... but I held my tong. For 100 dollars less, with no motion controls, for mainstream/casual games... it might as well be a gaming-only console. He's making the right decision. Why should I interject and try to persuade him towards the Xbox by talking about a bunch of crap that he doesn't care about?

For me, I want everything and the kitchen sink. Everything the Xbox is delivering looks perfect to me. From games to music to movies/TV and social media... I use it all. But that isn't for everyone.

So, I'll let him make his own choices, and then I'll lord it over him when we walk into my gaming space and the Box is already setting up our game before we even hit the couch because it see's my face and hears my voice, and then does the same thing for his face and voice :D

And then hopefully when it picks up on how sad he is, my Xbox will go "oh, you don't seem too happy, here's some cheery music to lighten up the mood!"

minimur124634d ago

I prefer PS, yeah. but I'll admit, the X1 has some interesting features. But my TV box still uses scart, so that feature is useless to me, and 'snapping' that seems cool but it's behind a paywall. as is internet explorer.
thats disgusting
how can a free service be paid for? Idont get it.

maybe becasue it's free on PS, but I find it amazing that if I have one, I'll need to pay to use skype. pay to use the internet, on top of my internet bill already. why?
I blog and I've opinionated it here:
http://wololo.net/2013/08/1...

DragonKnight4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

@nukeitall: Short answer is it hasn't. But the issue at hand is that early adopters are first and foremost gamers. History proves this. However Microsoft aren't marketing their product towards gamers with this "it's an all-in-one entertainment hub" slogan. They are marketing it to the casual audience who RARELY are the early adopters.

To top it off, in terms of gaming the Xbox One can easily also be categorized as just a powered up 360.

But to think that a Microsoft exec would say anything but praise for their product is naive of anyone.

@malokevi: "well... PS4 isn't exactly an exclusively games-oriented console... but I held my tong. For 100 dollars less, with no motion controls, for mainstream/casual games... it might as well be a gaming-only console."

I'm sorry, what? Can you repeat that? Did you just say that the PS4 is for mainstream/casual games or am I misunderstanding you? Also, since when were motion controls an important, standard feature? They've never been. Even with the Xbox One including Kinect in every kit it's not a standard feature because most likely won't use it.

FamilyGuy4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

The PS4 is also an all in one entertainment device. Just because they aren't placing a heavy focus on its non-gaming aspects like MS is doing doesn't mean it's just for games.

Every time I hear or read this it just sounds ridiculous.

When the PS3 was first announced and advertised people complained about THEM calling it a multimedia entertainment console. From the start it played Blu-ray movies and it had a HDD standard in every model that allowed you to save your own video files, music and photos directly to it. It had a web browser, read media from SD cards, usb drives, burned data disc, etc, had an option to install a Linux based OS and even had the ability to hook up a printer and print whatever.
People didn't like the non-gaming aspects being advertised.

Sony still has non-gaming, multimedia, entertainment based features for the PS4 that they just aren't talking about yet. They're focusing on gaming because gamers will be the first to buy their system.

This guy, and anyone else having the assumption that the PS4 will only be for playing games is just wrong. They've already spoken lightly on the other aspects and we'll be hearing more about them soon.

"just a more powerful PS3"
Uh, yeah, that's what we want, a more powerful gaming console that can do more! PS4 is all that while still not cramming features we might not want down our throats and all at a lower price.

devwan4634d ago

" I am sorry to say, but this is all in my eyes, it's just a stronger Playstation 3"

Looks like Mr Frost didn't get the memos. Nobody from microsoft needs to be downtalking the competition in any way, shape of form, they are supposed to be talking their own hardware up but not at the expense of others. Just not classy and leaves a bad taste after recent events.

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ABeastNamedTariq4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I find it funny that people think PS won't have just about the same entertainment features and apps. As if they don't already?

MS markets their machine as an all-in-one, and now some people believe that it's the only all-in-one system. No, they're acting like they're the only one.

It basically comes down to which UI you like using better to access your apps.

Still, it's supposed to be a gaming console first and foremost. Save most of the entertainment talk for Xmas when you're marketing to the families.

-Foxtrot4634d ago

Sony has even said entertainment stuff will be added to the PS4 in the future, I mean we already have that stuff about Sony and Viacom so it's not like they won't add entertainment things for the console. Sony just wants to focus on what matters at the minute and that's games.

Microsoft honestly believes the PS4 just an upgraded PS3...wow...just wow.

Xsilvermist4634d ago

Lol Microsoft that same more powerful ps3 made you guys copy everything they did to save your asses, and go back on ur so called future of gaming like not actually owning ur own games, but then its also even more powerful than the Xone so I'm lost. they need to be quiet because Sony will hit hard tomorrow at gamescom.

Thegamer414634d ago

Everyone keeps saying the PS4 is just an upgraded PS3 since it does not come with something like Kinect, does that mean, last gen, the 360 and PS3 were the same console?
Its the games that define the console not the peripherals included that add nothing new to gaming.

Mystogan4634d ago

" the 360 and PS3 were the same console?"

They actually were. just different games and policies.

Thegamer414634d ago

@Mystogan

That's my point, the games are what separated them apart, and it will be the same this gen.

ShwankyShpanky4634d ago

Didn't you know? The NES and the Master System were the same console. The SNES and the Genesis were the same console. The Saturn and the PlayStation were the same console.

Crap like this: "I think quite clear you have to wait because Xbox is the only eighth-generation console" is pathetic. I guess we should really be calling it a fourth-gen console.

Cartridge based: gen 1
Disc based: gen 2
Online/HD: gen 3
TV/Kinect: gen 4

rainslacker4634d ago

Sometimes a feature can define a console. The Wii is an excellent example. Virtual Boy. ummm...sure there are others.

However, this isn't the case here because outside of Kinect games, which are still unproven to be that appealing to the hardcore, the added "features" really have nothing to do with gaming, or how we experience those games.

I would say this is somewhat true of Sony's PS4 as well. The biggest announced "feature" is more in how we interact with others while gaming, and not really about defining game play on the console as a whole...although they could interact nicely for the social types out there.

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pompombrum4634d ago

Bad mouthing their competitors.. Microsoft being as classy as ever I see. They should be glad Sony doesn't resort to such low tactics otherwise they'd need to do a 180 on that as well.

Jdoki4634d ago

Didn't you watch the Sony E3 show?

If that wasn't the biggest dig at a competitor since the 'Sega Do What NintenDon't' adverts I dunno what is! :)

(No criticising the approach of Sony - I think for the most part MS are much more divisive in their bad mouthing - but there are no saints in this industry)

pompombrum4634d ago

Sony never once directly referenced the Xbox One as far as I'm aware, at least not negatively. The closest they came was their sharing games video.

Blaze9294634d ago

lol grow up. I can't even be bothered to point out the hypocrisy in this right now.

FamilyGuy4634d ago

Sony never says/said Microsoft/Xbox/Xbox one/360, they only say things like;
"We're doing this"
"We won't be doing that"
"Our console is the only place for..."
"Here's how you do this on our system"

Mircosoft employees come out saying "Don't buy a PS4, our system is better blah blah blah"

Do you guys see the difference?

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GraveLord4634d ago

He's kinda being a hypocrite.

Xbox 360 ---> XBox One
Kinect ---> Kinect 2.0

You can't claim PS4 is just a more powerful PS3 and ignore then praise the Xbox One as some unique innovative platform....

PS4 is just as much an entertainment system as the Xbox One.

Thatguy-3104634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Lol everything that made the xbox one new was taken away with all the 180 spins. Now Xbox one is just a stronger 360 isn't?

Magicite4634d ago

MS exec saying that people shouldnt buy PS4 but wait for XBO. Oh the irony..

Mounce4634d ago

Another PR that should be fired and isn't giving Microsoft and their console division a good name by sounding so incredibly ignorant and immature.

Being Conceited has limitations, hopefully even for Microsoft.

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WeAreLegion4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

I fail to see why anyone would think the Xbox One is any more of an entertainment package than the PS4.

You can watch cable through it?!? My Wii U does that already. I never use it. Nobody ever uses it. It's a waste of time.

"He further addded that people should wait for the Xbox One, because the PS4 is only a more powerful PS3, while the Xbox One is a whole new thing, which brings an entire entertainment system into your home."

Televisions already have Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, Spotify, etc. The PS3/360 also have most of these apps. What do they mean "entire entertainment system"? We've had "entire entertainment systems" for years.

rainslacker4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

This past Christmas, I looked into getting a PS3 for my dad for all that media stuff. He wanted to have a media server, and use netflix, etc. I ended up buying him a $90 Sony Blu-Ray player and it does everything a PS3/360, and likely a PS4/X1(sans remote control features) can do, a few exceptions of course. It even has a XMB type interface, although a pretty crappy youtube app, and a useless browser.

People buy these things for games mostly. If people want Netflix, Media Server client, or those other features, they'd buy a cheaper alternative, or go with the device that doesn't put all those features behind a secondary pay wall.

MS is playing the wrong card trying to appeal to the wrong people. They're late to the party with most of this stuff...which is pretty typical of their business model overall.

SniperControl4634d ago

MS remind me more & more of a slimy salesman on a garage forecourt desperate to get a sale.
They will say and do anything to get one over on the other sales people i.e Sony.

Unfortunately for MS, most gamers know the crack and wont listen to BS from some PR flunky.

gaelic_laoch4634d ago

Say M$ and I get a vision of Saul Goodman in my head!

SniperControl4634d ago

LOL

i was thinking more of this guy, Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons.

http://images2.wikia.nocook...

gaelic_laoch4634d ago

@ SniperControl

If your talking Simpsons then I see Don Mattrick as the MonoRail guy selling the Xbone to the Fanboys!

Mikelarry4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

all i read was excuses this, crappy explanation that. also when will MS learn bad mouthing before a press conference only to fall face flat after and then going 180

gaelic_laoch4634d ago

M$ tried to make the Xbone an all in one Frankenconsole! But like all monsters it turned on its maker!

devwan4634d ago

Have to say, looking through your posts you have some of the funniest one and two line comments on here, even if you don't always add to the conversation :)

As for article, Jesper Frost is going to be in trouble if he continues directly putting down the competition, it's not policy and not what he needs to be saying in delicate times - anything and everything will be reported and written about as it was here and it's only going to do microsoft more harm in the long run.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Lexreborn210h ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Sitdown3h ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

blacktiger7h ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30005h ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde4h ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood4h ago(Edited 3h ago)

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent751d 10h ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Price Update

Starting today, Game Pass Ultimate drops from $29.99 to $22.99 a month. PC Game Pass will also drop from $16.49 to $13.99 a month. Prices may vary by region.

Beginning this year, future Call of Duty titles won’t join Game Pass Ultimate or PC Game Pass at launch. New Call of Duty games will be added to Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass during the following holiday season (about a year later), while existing Call of Duty titles already in the library will continue to be available.

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Neonridr6d ago

can't wait to hear how this is spun negatively.

darthv726d ago

Its nice there is some kind of drop... but is that all they really value CoD to be, a lousy $7 a month?

I was hoping it would drop by $10.

MisterBoots6d ago

That $7 equates to $84 per year - which is more than COD new ($69.99 + tax).

So - you can get the exact same thing - and save a few bucks - or you can skip COD and pocket the savings or use toward another game - or games if on sale.

That’s how I’m taking it - and is enough for me to sign back up after canceling the day it went to $29.99.

fr0sty6d ago

It's unlikely that COD is going to be the only title they stop offering day one, but we'll see how they play their hand.

VenomUK5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Including Call of Duty in Game Pass is just leaving money on the table. When the Elder Scrolls VI releases hopefully Microsoft doesn’t launch it into Game Pass. Then it can make more profits and use it give more value to Xbox console owners!

1Victor6d ago

Can’t wait to hear how this will be spun extremely positive. 🤣
I wonder why knowing Microsoft thick head something must has happened in the background in the levels of Xbox one and Kinect 🤷🏿

fr0sty6d ago

Any price cut is a good thing in this day and age, but it also reveals a flaw in GamePass' design that we've all been calling out for years... it's unsustainable, especially with day and date releases on new games. COD won't be the only game they exclude, they're setting a precedent with it that they'll likely expand upon in the future.

At least they're being realistic about it now. I bet in the future we're going to start seeing them try to subsidize the high price of new consoles by making you buy 2-3 years of gamepass with it to get the console cheaper. I'm still not sure that'll be enough to save either the hardware or gamepass, but we'll see.

Neonridr6d ago

price cuts are good, the removal of Call of Duty is clearly something they are planning to leverage. But considering everyone around N4G claims Call of Duty sucks, it's not a big loss now is it?

LucasRuinedChildhood6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Well, they're removing their biggest game from being Day 1 on the service so GamePass users can buy it instead. That's the intention.

They increased the price to $30, then removed COD and dropped it to still be above the old price.

It's an understandable compromise but the consumer Ultimately is getting less.

Think the calculation is that *most* COD users don't play that many games and aren't interested in GamePass. The GamePass users who do like COD would just buy it anyway. MS reportedly lost out a lot of money last year putting COD on GamePass.

Bathyj6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Well Call of duty could just be the beginning. What other games can they trim from the service to get the price down? How long before it's just the Xbox core first party studio games and not the one to everquired?

Create an interesting scenario with Call of duty as well. Will people wait a year to play it? Does that split the fan base? Will it hurt to Call of duty more than a benefits Game pass? These are all legitimate questions which we will find the answers to in the coming years

And I don't consider my post negative spin just realistic observation. At the very least this backtracking can be seen as an admittance that the previous strategy of gamepass was not sustainable as most of us said.

darthv726d ago

I'd get rid of the EA and Ubisoft+ too. That should bring the price down more. The only game from either of those parts of the service i played was jedi Fallen order / survivor. both of which i also bought on disc so it was more of a convenience i didnt have to put the disc in to play when i was playing them via remote play. And really that is why i still use GPU and PS+. its the convenience of having the games ready to play from a remote location. I havent picked up my consoles controllers in at least a few years. I guess that makes me a bad gamer, but so what. i'm still playing the games, just not physically on the machines themselves. GCloud and Portal are my go to now.

GhostScholar6d ago

They’ll say no one is buying game pass so they had to drop the price , even though it’s been extremely profitable.

Outside_ofthe_Box6d ago

Why remove CoD if it's *extremely* profitable then? Why even increase it to begin with?

Outside_ofthe_Box6d ago

Always funny seeing those that defended the price hike go "how you gonna spin this now!" after the price drops.

You should be thanking those that called it out. Obviously this is a good thing especially with everything increasing nowadays.

Also, what happened to the reason why that the Activision acquisition was good for gaming was that CoD would be day one on GamePass? Another backtrack on that I guess...

What removing CoD on GamePass shows, is that it's not sustainable for for the more popular and/or bigger budget games because of the sales you lose out on like people have been saying since inception. It never made sense to put CoD on there unless you thought it's popularity would draw in a lot of subscribers which it obviously didn't. And if it was as sustainable as people claim they wouldn't have increased the price while putting it on there in the first place.

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KicksnSnares6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

New Xbox Boss the 🐐?

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Vits6d ago

In my region, it’s still more expensive than it was before the last price hike, but it’s a far more viable price point.

Losing Call of Duty from the service, honestly, has zero effect on me, and given they chose to make it so, it’s probably not the big seller they originally thought. Overall, it’s really good news, but I still think they have work to do on the tier structure, having Premium and PC at the same price point with different features feels odd.

Lightning776d ago

Yep take COD out. Them waiting a year is interesting but it make sense. They don't want certain ppl waiting 4 to 6 months they want fomo and maximum sales. Wait a year while the new one releases.

Ok so far so good.

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