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Pach-Attack- Why is Kinect Forced upon Us?

GT:Michael Pachter evaluates the Xbox One’s mandatory pack-in.

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Wh15ky4659d ago

Cause it's the only way folks will buy it! ;)

NewMonday4659d ago

good answers this time from Patcher.

xHeavYx4659d ago

The original Kinect sold a lot,MS wants the money from casual games. The reason why most people are upset with it is because MS completely forgot about the hardcore gamers for the past 4 years, instead they launched all these Kinect based games that were horrible ( Steel Battalion, anyone?)

pompombrum4659d ago

Steel Battalion.. sob sob, I remember always wanting to own the original version of that with that huge accessory that you needed to play it.. looked so awesome.

BitbyDeath4659d ago

@xHeavYx, Kinect is bundled with every 360 here in Oz, if it was to sell on it's own then the numbers would likely be less than Move.

thechosenone4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

MS recovered a week after E3? lol Keep dreaming Pachter.

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Benchm4rk4659d ago

@BitbyDeath

Kinect is 100% optional here in Australia. There are bundles with Kinect and a few Kinect games. There are bundles without Kinect that have a few Non Kinect games with it. You can buy a 4gb or 250gb Console on its own without games or Kinect. So no the Kinect is not bundled with EVERY Xbox 360.

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Rhaigun4659d ago

I'll tell you why. Because MS spent too much money on the tech not to include it. If they didn't include it, they'd have a hard time recouping that loss.

nypifisel4659d ago

Perhaps they never should have spent money on it to begin with then.

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user74029314659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

kinect being bundled is unnecessary and will throw off a huge amount of potential customers. microsoft will bleed money because of this imo.

thrust4659d ago

Nope! Kinect is very popular for kids and family's it is great fun for all.

While some will get put off with the price another person will just fill that gap

PSVita4659d ago

Everyone that I know with kinect (Wii/move) never uses it anymore.

pompombrum4659d ago

The problem is though that there isn't anything at launch for families or kids though. There is very little to justify it's inclusion at launch other than "the future" which seems to be everyone at Microsoft's Xbox division's favourite come back to everything.

DevilishSix4659d ago

popular with kids? My six year old hardly touches hers other than Kinectimals. She played some Kinect adventures a bit. I got her Once Upon a Monster and she won't touch it. She said the kinect is boring, she will be seven next month.

Wh15ky4659d ago

"The problem is though that there isn't anything at launch for families or kids though."

Not much point, MS know the 'casuals' won't shell out £449.99 for a new console so for now their focus is on 'gamers', the early adopters. When the price drops a bit I'm betting we will see them shift their focus from 'gamers' to 'casuals', just like what happened with the 360.

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Bigpappy4659d ago

Why are PS fanboys always the Kinect experts.

user74029314659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

the same reason x fans are move experts

@wraith, like john carmack who praised move ?

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Barely anyone mentions Move, not even sony fans, lol.

Edit: No, it's because it's borderline useless. Have a nice day.

The person above mentioned move(off topic) while lying through their teeth.

maximus19854659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

@ WeAiTh Sp3cTr3 --maybe move isnt mentioned because its not FORCED on us

DigitalRaptor4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

"Barely anyone mentions Move, not even sony fans, lol."

Because it's not for everyone, and its creators know this.

nypifisel4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Sony fans aren't as deluded as the MS specimens, Sony fans know the Move is very niche and only good for some things and that's not hardcore gaming. MS specimens need constantly to justify the Kinect to themselves hence they defend it and call it the most brilliant device to be conceived upon this earth even though a monkey knows a motion controller without tactile feedback is pretty much broken from the start.

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theWB274659d ago

@aiBreeze
"The problem is though that there isn't anything at launch for families or kids though. There is very little to justify it's inclusion at launch other than "the future" which seems to be everyone at Microsoft's Xbox division's favourite come back to everything."

The whole system is built around the camera. It isn't JUST for games. There are games, not family, that are taking advantage of the camera- like Dead Rising 3. Other than the games...the system takes advantage of the camera also.

Bigpappy4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

M$ has not finished revealing games and uses for X1. There are a whole lot of games and features that are yet to be talked about, by both M$ and Sony. To say that they will be no family games at launch is unsubstantiated.

We do have Gamescom coming in a few day, No?

theWB274659d ago

We do..but the first part of my comment is what aiBreeze wrote...my opinion on the matter is the second paragraph.

We do have gamescon...but I'm just as excited for the system features as the game features.

Bigpappy4659d ago

Sorry about that theWB27. I was just adding to your comment. I was aware that you were quoting aiBreeze in the 1st paragraph and was also commenting mostly on his first line.

Spoons4659d ago

Doubt it, the average consumer will probably think it's pretty cool. Hardcore gamers might not. Like here on n4g, a community where most of us are hardcore gamers.

rainslacker4659d ago

The average user will use it for a while, then relegate it to the back of the closet. That's what happens with novelty products. See Wii for reference.

vlonjati77vlonjati4659d ago

Damn you Dirty Pimp-Its about time I buy T2 on bluray since the dvd version I have its all scratchy from so many times Ihave watched it(thanks to you commenting and cannot help it but go and watch it) :)

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golding894659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

It's only forced on you only if you buy it.

Just don't buy it then it won't be forced on you.

I never had a problem with kinect. Xbox one day one for me. Pre-ordered mine since day one.

All this kinect force upon us stuff is just to get a rise out of people. no one is forcing you to buy an xbox one. why complaint?

My logic is not bunked at all. Millions of people will get xbox one. This is not a monopoly. get another console if you the like the one. hint [ps4]

NegativeCreep4274659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Your logic is totally bunked.

"It's only forced on you only if you buy it"

What about the people that DO want to buy Xbox One, but don't want or are not interested in Kinect? They are then being forced to buy into an accessory that they don't like and most likely will have little interested in using. They are being forced into it because they have no alternative if they are only interested in the Xbox One.

By your logic, I should open a restaurant and serve all my entrees with a side of goat turd. If my customers tell me they want my entrees, but don't want a fresh and stinky side of goat turd to accompany them, I should just tell my customers "Well nobody is forcing you to come and eat in my restaurant. I'm not forcing you to come in and buy my food. That's the way it is. Deal with it".

No_Limit4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Kinect is part of the system just like how the Wii U tablet controller is to that system. If you people don't want it, buy a PS4.

If gamers want a next gen system that is not just a supped-up X360 with prettier graphics, and see the benefit of Kinect of bringing in new and exciting gameplay element, and think the $500 is justify, then that is their choice. Without a Kinect guaranteed in every Sku, developers just wouldn't use it to its full potential and will be left 4 dead just like every accessories that came before it.

If gamers just want a supped-up PS3/X360 and don't think a system with a camera justify an extra $100, PS4 is or them, it is their choice and so be it.

We are really beating a DEAD HORSE here.

theWB274659d ago

The Xbox One comes with a camera. That's the product Microsoft is offering. They have reversed everything concerning the system all the way down to you being able to disconnect the device.

But they have said the camera will still be there. I hope they stick to their guns on this. Devs will only take advantage if they know the camera is being supported. If it's not bundled, it's a wasted accessory...period.

It really is that simple. The One, for now, comes with a camera. If you don't want the camera, get a PS4 or WiiU.

Master-H4659d ago

I hope they make an Xbone bundle with a side of goat-turd. i might buy it then to play Ryse and insomniac's game, it'd still be better than kinect lol

VforVideogames4659d ago

Ms Negativecreepp427, Its very simple: the people that don't want to be "forced" to buy a KINECT are the ones that getting a PS4 and the ONEs that like the idea of KINECT and the real next-gen experience like my self are getting the XB-1 , jump in and join the darkside.

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matrixman924659d ago

maybe people want an xbox one, but dont want to use a kinect? Why should someone be forced to pay more for something they want when they wont use a hundred dollars worth of stuff that comes with it. It would be like someone buying a computer that is with a game controller. Not everybody that buys a computer wants a controller, but people would be forced to pay more for it anyway. Its just an idiotic concept that MS has brought on. The only way I would ever continue on from 360 to xbox one is if they made a kinectless SKU

n4rc4659d ago

Because thats life?

Every single product out there can be said to have features you don't want/need yet are "forced" to pay for.

Thats why we have competition.

pompombrum4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

"Because thats life?"

That has to be the worst justification for kinect's mandatory inclusion I've read so far.

Also, features of a product and a separate external accessory are completely different things. Say what you want but the 180 Microsoft done by allowing people to use Xbox One without kinect (good move imho) means kinect is no longer a feature of the system but a mandatory accessory forced upon people.

n4rc4659d ago

its still mandatory if you want the full experience of the xbox one..

all they have allowed you to do is cripple your console to satisfy peoples paranoia.. without destroying the 100% adoption rate promised to developers and customers.

allowing the unit to function without kinect doesnt mean its a secondary accessory.. unless your arrogant enough to think the NSA is watching you play halo, you arent going to leave it unplugged in the box.

its a move to kill the remaining conspiracy theories..

Kryptix4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

I agree with aiBreeze. The best thing Microsoft should of done is showed in many videos how the Kinect can be used in games and see if the majority of people like it or not before deciding what to do. They blindfully chose the Kinect to not be necessary to the console which only means that it's a forced accessory because now it's an option. If Microsoft makes an Xbox One SKU without it, people who bought it with a Kinect would feel ripped off. Now Microsoft has to justify why the people that weren't interested in it payed the extra $100. Will it be interesting to the people that only like playing with a controller? Well, that's up to MS to show at Gamescom.

@n4rc
The NSA spying on you wasn't a conspiracy theory. Snowden is on CIA's wanted list for having those documents to what Miicrosoft and the NSA are doing. It's just fanboys like you like to call it a conspiracy theory though the fact exists.

http://rt.com/usa/microsoft...

Wh15ky4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

@ n4rc

"Every single product out there can be said to have features you don't want/need yet are "forced" to pay for"

I can't think of any product I own that has a feature I didn't want/ don't use that would have added 25% to that products retail cost.

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BlueBlood174659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

As much as I don't really understand why you're getting the XBone over the PS4, I have to agree with you.

Kinect isn't being forced on anyone. It is part of a system that is being sold. It was being forced on people at one point, but Microsoft changed that, now it's just a feature of the console that you can choose to use or not.

If you really don't want to spend 100 bucks (or 80 quid where I'm from) extra, then - you know - there is another option out there. It's your choice.

maximus19854659d ago

i want an xbox but im not going to use kinect...whats that? i HAVE TO buy it anyway? THAT IS FORCE! if your sold something that you wont use.

BlueBlood174658d ago

@maximus1985

No, if you're sold something that you won't use then you are an idiot for buying it. Do you know why? Because you bought it - yes YOU. No one forced you to hand over the cash did they?

If you buy something that includes a feature that you won't use, then you still get to enjoy the rest of it. But guess what? That feature is part of the system. You are still not being forced to pay for it, because you didn't have to pay for any of it.

If you are unwilling to pay $5oo for the system of your choice then get an alternative - or nothing at all.

MysticStrummer4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

"It's only forced on you only if you buy it."

Please stop with this nonsensical logic. If you want to play Halo and Forza, but don't want Kinect, you are forced to buy it anyway.

Less than 1/3 of 360 users bought Kinect... unless you want to admit that 360 sales numbers were significantly inflated by RRoD... but now all will be forced to buy it if they want to keep playing those MS exclusives.

Paying $100 more for cheaper tech to get the better camera, which most people don't want anyway...? It's no mystery why at least some MS fans are jumping ship, and MS will lose NA next generation because of it, unless they make a Kinect-less One within a year or two.

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Smoovekid4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

@golding89 So don't buy an Xbox One.

MasterCornholio4659d ago

Exactly right. Kinect isn't being forced on anyone if you don't want it just buy a PS4 or a Wii U and if you want an Xbox One you will just have to DEAL WITH IT.

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denawayne4659d ago

Nobody's forcing me to buy anything. I'm deciding to buy an Xbox One on day one.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot22d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle22d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7722d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7726d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300027d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7227d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit26d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania27d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit26d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0726d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr27d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box27d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr26d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9527d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7227d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--27d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7226d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket27d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm26d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde26d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago (Edited 26d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_27d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted27d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit26d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9226d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT27d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers27d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14927d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0726d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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