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The Kinect Conspiracy

Imagine having a camera in millions of households across the globe, it's a highly powerful tool that Microsoft will have especially when Xbox One finally launches. Our consumer culture sees plenty trojan agendas accompanying the products we purchase, Microsoft's sudden change to having Xbox One Kinect no longer mandatory to the consoles operation begs a few questions along with rumours about the NSA potentially being involved along with some other potential issues.

Before proceeding to this article please understand this was not created to deter individuals from the Xbox One product, Microsoft is the key feature yet it is detailed within that other may also equally pose threats to our privacy also. The following feature is not designed to "troll" it's intentions is to make the public aware of a possibility we need to stand against.

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GiantEnemyCrab4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

MS said you can turn it off and it is not required to use your Xbox One if you don't want the Kinect features.

My cell phone, laptop and PS3 all have cameras that are looking at me all day.

For example: On the TOS for the Facebook app on cell phones you agree that FB can turn your phone camera on and take both pictures and video as well as turn on the mic and record any background sounds for a certain amount of time.

I agree we as consumers need to be aware and push back on any invasion of privacy. I think we are being over harsh on Kinect acting like it's the first device with a camera and a mic that can be abused.

golding894647d ago

It's actually very unfortunate. People have made it a trend to complain about kinect.. even though they know the complains are all bs. this is life

EsotericAnomaly4647d ago

Kinect is an amazing piece of hardware, my only fear is that other influences in Microsoft or external may use it wrongly in the future.

slimeybrainboy4647d ago

People's straight up problem with Kinect is that you don't have a choice if you want an XB1. It's not an invalid or unfair complaint.

If you're not interested in voice commands, motion control, better with Kinect. If you just want to press buttons and play games on an XB1 you still have to buy a Kinect.

It's like if you went to a restaurant, ordered a Steak but you had to pay for a glass of wine too. If you only want the steak, but you have to get the wine otherwise the wine will lose support from the wine making community and the wine will become worse in quality. It's a little annoying because you didn't want the wine in the first place, and now you have to support it if you want to play Halo on your steak.

darthv724647d ago

i for one am actually quite giddy (can't believe i'm using that term but...) about the new kinect after watching this vid:

http://youtu.be/Hi5kMNfgDS4

I know that is a tech demo but the possibilities are intriguing. All these little touches add to the overall experience and when you have it turned off you are limiting that experience.

I have and i use the original kinect but this kinect 2.0 just looks sooooo much better.

matgrowcott4647d ago

@slimeybrainboy

Your analogy only works if nobody would buy or make wine if it wasn't forced with the steak.

Developers can and will prove Kinect works, but only if everybody has one. There's no point in making promises if the only people who will see the fruit of that labour are soccer moms and kids.

Forcing Kinect will make it a successful device worthy of ownership. Taking that away will kill the whole idea and any potential innovation that will come with it.

n4rc4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

You can make that argument from both sides slimey..

Can we complain and expect apple for example to release an iPhone without Siri and camera because we dont want such features?

Products are never exactly how we want.. If the good doesn't outweigh the bad, then its not the product for you..

Its not evil or anti consumer etc..

DaGR8JIBRALTAR4647d ago

bs or not...problem has been alleviated!(Dr.Evil laff)

blackmanone4647d ago

Anyone that doesn't get the potential for abuse isn't thinking about it hard enough. I get people that don't care cause the potential is slim to none, but to say it doesn't exist just means you aren't thinking critically... which unfortunately seems to be more than a few people.

pompombrum4647d ago

With kinect always having to be connected to the X1, it left so much room for abuse. People were complaining about this before the NSA leaks. The leaks just gave those people more credit to their concerns. In a lot of ways, Snowden's timing really sucked for Microsoft and the X1 however going back on it always being connected to the console was a good move imho for those who are concerned about privacy.

JokesOnYou4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

"If you just want to press buttons and play games on an XB1 you still have to buy a Kinect." 

The reason I can't take people like slimey seriously is because I never heard them on their soap box about wii u's tablet controller. Hell why stop there how about ps4's new touchpad, or why did sony force bluray on us last gen when 99% of the games, even the biggest like Skyrim with over 200+ hrs of GAMEPLAY are on 1 disc? Why am I forced to pay for those things when they could have sold me a console that just plays Marioland, TLOU, and soon KZ SF on the cheapest console possible?

Damm I'm pissed, how dare sony FORCE me to buy a bluray capable ps3! Screw you nintendo I'm not falling for your tablet gaming conspiracy, sell me a cheap traditional button controller or no buy from me!

pompombrum4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

@matgrowcott

What happens then when over half of the people who buy an Xbox One sell their kinect or don't have it connected to the console?

Pulling figures from thin air here but I think a large percentage of Xbox One's initial users will be COD fans (next gen exclusive for however long and all) and I really don't see the average fan caring about kinect.

Now I might be completely wrong but hypothetically speaking, if this is the case and over half the X1 userbase doesn't even have kinect connected, how long will developers keep adding kinect features if they aren't even being used? Saying "well everyone has one" is all well and good but I just can't see developers adding kinect features if they don't think they are going to be used.

Enemy4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

All BS? Even Snowden leaked that Microsoft have been giving the NSA tons of information.

Kinect being included with all Xbox Ones is the next step. The more they include it, the more likely they are to get your info + activity + photos + household information, as millions of people will be compelled to use it out of the box.

JokesOnYou4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

@aiBreeze, lol so Kinect is unwanted by half the users who still decided to purchase a $500 console so that they can sell it to WHO EXACTLY? You mean the other half of the install base who already has one? OR the same half trying to sell theirs? OR the pc gamers who cant connect Kinect v2 to their pc's http://arstechnica.com/gami...

Furthermore your COD reference is way over generalized, it will have the highest sales but a significant portion of early adopters wil be playing other games too or no COD at all. Even still how do you make the leap from not needing it for COD so I must sell it....you do know it has heavy UI use AND gaming options in both COD, other launch games and of course logic suggests future games thats WHY its in the box.

lol, Id say you're doing more than pulling some really desperate figures from thin air, actually your logic is just not making any sense.

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Minute Man 7214647d ago

It's because Micro has been caught giving people's info to uncle Sam, that's the problem. Not to mention their always online policy at first

No_Limit4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

Agreed GiantEnemyCrab ,

All these articles are submitted by Sony loyalists to try to attack the XB1's former weak point for massive damage (no pun intended), nothing more to it really. It is doing its job on N4G and other similar pro Sony sites I would say, judging from all the trollish responses and traffic. How can it spy on anyone now if no internet is needed and it doesn't have to be be connected to work? Did these people that are writing these articles live in a cave for the past few weeks?

blackmanone4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

Sigh, not everyone who doesn't like the xbox is a Sony loyalist, or "fanboy." To think so only shows the world that you can only see half the picture.

pompombrum4647d ago

LMFAO talking of conspiracy theories, you xbox fans and your "It's all Sony loyalists" crap is far worse than anyone who was voicing their privacy concerns with how the X1 was before the 180s.

robotgargoyle4647d ago

Awesome username and picture! Do you have a glowing weak spot on your back?

Oh, and I agree.

robotgargoyle4647d ago

Awesome username and pic! Do you have a glowing weak spot on your back?

Oh, and I agree with you.

thetruthx14647d ago

Exactly!

Doesn't have to be connected to the internet

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Doesn't have to be plugged into the socket

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No conspiracy

adventureghost1244647d ago

I think it's more that a lot people know the relations Microsoft has with the NSA. people know that they work together and that Microsoft has a track record of lying to their consumers. Everyone was especially scared when it was required to be with the system knowing that info

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EsotericAnomaly4647d ago

Your right, in the article it's specified. The only reason Microsoft has got the main focus is because of the shift in direction and it's current place on the market. It's said one thing then done another for what I believe to be a choice to match the competition to ensure sales go smoothly against the competition.

As you said there's so many different devices that share the same warnings. However Microsoft attempted to make it compulsory and it coincides with stories in circulation. Ultimately people need to be made aware, if it seems unfair that Microsoft is featured too prominently in this regard I'll happily take the criticism on the chin.

All in all we must preserve our right to privacy.

slimeybrainboy4647d ago

I thought the reason MS were held up to more conspiracy was based on their cooperation with the NSA, not necessarily because of their policies.

I'm pretty sure that the whistle blower guy confirmed that Microsoft had cooperated in handing over private information to the US governement. And the whistlebower said that his problem was that the NSA had taken and stored much more information than they were using in cohesion with the purpose of the NSA. Wasn't it these things combined that made people distrust the Kinect and MS?

I'm not really politcal forgive me if i'm wrong about anything, but this is the general story I've picked up on in the media.

EsotericAnomaly4647d ago

Too be absolutely honest with you I kept a fair hand when researching these rumours and much like yourself I opted to steer clear away from the politics. What I meant to say was that for Microsoft to be so set in there ways in making Kinect mandatory at one stage implied an additional motive, now that's personal opinion.

One may add that NSA data issue along side Microsoft's initial strong policy for Kinect. I don't know about you but it seemed highly impractical for Kinect to be so crucial to Xbox One working. A huge was deal was being made out of an aspect that no one was really expecting.

"What's the big deal about Kinect being hooked up?" - I thought.

Politics sucks, and anyone looking forward to Xbox One I do not wish to put off the product, not like I expect that will be the case. Personally I see this as a historic time where the video game industry motions forward in becoming a infiltrator to homes all over the World whether it be now or beyond from the next generation.

Minute Man 7214647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

@ slimeybrainboy

It's true

rainslacker4647d ago

Bit off topic and won't deny the potential for Kinect to be a spy device, but why not address the real reason that MS put the Kinect with the console. The one almost no one ever mentions or even seems to care about. Even when i bring it up, no one ever comments.

That reason was to data mine it's users to target advertising to them. Said clear as day in their reveal. Not hidden behind corporate PR spin. MS has plans to directly target advertising to it's users.

That kind of money is huge. More then Xbox Live fees, more than software sales, more than profits off the system and accessories.

Think of it this way. MS was charging roughly 1 million dollars for a single semi-targeted ad on the Xbox 360 dashboard. One that all 360 user claims was non-obtrusive, and often not even targeted very well.

Now imagine how much money they will make when targeting ads by the data it collects on the user. Imagine how much they will make by being able to, in real time, gauge the effectiveness of those ads and see if it's worth continuing to advertise that product to a person. Then think of how much money they can make by selling all that data mined market research to other marketing firms. That business is huge.

I guess no one really cares about their privacy being invaded to be advertised to them. No biggie there. Ads are just annoying right?

I'm afraid, my friends, that MS was trying to sell a marketing tool for their advertising partners. The fact it plays games is just a nice bonus for the end user.

sAVAge_bEaST4646d ago

^^^^^^^^

Exactly, it was suppose to be the Marketing, super tool. and was secretly promoted that way.

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Tyre4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

@EsotericAnomalyThx for making this article, people should stay on their toes and the world needs to re-evaluate the current surveillance practices otherwise it could literally make the world and our last bastion of privacy into a prison, well thought out and most likely in accordance with the current reality, sadly. People should realise that we are at the mercy of a minority of people with powers at their fingertips unlike anything ever bestowed upon humanity in the the history of our civilisations. It is time for the people of the world to regain controlling the authorities and re-institute our hard earned freedoms. We should re-educate people in showing them how these laws came to be, why we have such rights as privacy. Terrorism is not a valid argument for surveillance: It is only for the protection of state property not the people and more people die of the flu every year than they will ever die of terrorism. A musquito carrying the West-Nile Virus is a weapon of Mass Destruction for crying out loud. Wake up people these surveillance practices are totally baseless and only serve a couple of wussy paranoid psychopaths in our governments. There were more hijackings and terror attacks by the RAF & PLO in the seventies, but peoples weren't as pussy as we are now. They weren't as stupid to sacrifice our freedoms for false safety back then.

Software_Lover4647d ago

The sad part is, I'm sure most of you have Android phones and dont complain about them, but the FBI/NSA can turn on the camera and listen in anytime they want.

ANYTIME THEY WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There were articles on it on Techspy. I was amazed.
But yet, here on N4g, It's only Sony vs Microsoft.

Heisenburger4647d ago

That's because we discuss video games here.

GreenRanger4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

Now that Microsoft have been caught spying on people on Skype, and are part of PRISM, can you really blame people for thinking that they can be watched through Kinect?

XboxFun4647d ago

Yea MS caught me sending poetry to some secretary during lunch.

My face was so red when MS contacted me about how lame my poetry skills where. Damn you to hell MS and PRISM, Illuminati, World Bank and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants!

if there was ever a time we needed the Green Ranger it's now!

GreenRanger4647d ago

Yeah, it's OK that Microsoft spied on you. You're only sending poetry, after all. /s

pompombrum4647d ago

Sending poetry, so that's what you call it?

n4rc4647d ago

Of course you CAN be watched.. But that goes for anything..

Feds can tap your cell cam and mic.. Or your laptop.. Or just spy in you from space..

Warrants are what keeps it in check.. They need at least probable cause to do anything.. And that's all in accordance with the laws of your country..

If privacy is a big concern.. Then being online is probably a bad idea in general.. Privacy rights are given to you by your government.. Unfortunately they can be taken away just as easily

clrlite4647d ago (Edited 4647d ago )

I don't trust the device myself but you made a few good points there.

It's not a conspiracy, data mining and spying does happen but it's kind of silly to be overly paranoid about it in this day and age.

Also, IMO it's wrong to make using the device mandatory, and simply having it as bundled option would be more sensible, if they haven't changed this yet.

drsfinest724647d ago

Wow this is dumb. Now that Google ms and apple are all part of this dumb nsa bullshit that mean that cellphones are more of a threat than Kinect considering that you could disconnect the kinect.

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle9d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk779d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7713d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300014d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7214d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit13d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania14d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit13d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0713d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr14d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr13d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9514d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7214d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7213d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket14d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm13d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde13d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_14d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted14d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit13d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT14d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers14d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14914d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0713d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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