No one is calling it very low-end, but I'd say high end refers to a minimum of a 7970ghz/GTX770 all the way up to duel-GPU set-ups, and if you think it can compete with such systems in terms of power you're delusional. Going with 'oh but the devs say it's this' when they're trying to sell you the system is stupid.

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I guess people don't realize you're joking unless you label it as a joke

It's funny you mention Tomb Raider because that game has so many extra graphical features and higher quality assets on PC than on consoles that it looks vastly better on PC.

Being able to run better looking games at a better frame rate and with better image quality is what the extra power of PCs allows for. You act like the extra power just goes to waste, but that really isn't true.

Multiplatform games are so much better on PC, especially multiplatform games that have more advanced core graphical elements on PC like Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Crysis 2, Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, The Witcher 2, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Sleeping Dogs, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Max Payne, Battlefield 3, Assassin's Creed 3, etc.

Games like that really look significantly better on PC than on consoles and on top of those better core graphics we also can run those games at much higher frame rates and display resolutions, with better anti-aliasing and texture filtering, than on consoles.

So, no, the power in PCs does not go to waste, and developers are making more advanced versions of many games to take advantage of the extra power afforded by gaming PCs.

I know that some PC gamers brag about 4k resolutions but even the best GPUs on the market cant handle Crysis 3 at 4k resolution at a steady 30FPS. In my opinion 1080P is more than enough for consoles.

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.... so?

Yea me either since it's the next water cooler i'm gonna set my PS4 on top of it to keep it from overheating xD.

OT:I just want my PS4 already.

NO. Can't see the Crysis for the trees.

we also need to understand that years and years of optimization won't trump raw power.

And i love it when some console fan boy turns up like he knows everything about a PC and its architecture.

PC users have option to put anything they want on the OS. A gamers PC doesn't has half the apps you mentioned, it has either Steam or Origin. A PS/Xbox has their own online service which remains active almost every time when you play either offline or online.

PC has two sets of ram, one for the system and the other for graphics. Consoles doesn't, why? Sony nor Microsoft can use a discrete GPU solution with its own memory, its expensive for them. Hence they move to a cheaper and single memory pool that's linked to both CPU and GPU. PC already has enough memory to handle every single app tasked by the OS. Memory on the other hand has reached 2 GB to 4 GB GDDR5, while system memory accounts for 8 GB on any average house hold PC.

And customized is an absolutely wrong word, its been cheapened to an extent that allows manufacturer's (Sony/MS) to mass produce it with minimum losses. Half of the memory is reserved for the OS on the PS4, why won't Sony just officially debunk the rumor and tell that the complete 8 GB memory is available to developers? Because it simply doesn't have that much memory free, the OS is hoggy, Sony has been lying and im not saying this is only restricted to PS4, Xbox One has limited memory too.

You think the 15 min video recording is being offloaded to virtually nothing? You think that the online services (Friends/Achievements) aren't being offloaded to anything? You think the multiplayer components aren't being offloaded to anything? There
s a limited amount of memory which would hurt both consoles in the future, PC on the other hand is upgradable as a user prefers.

If 4K and 120 Hz/ 120 FPS is not considered next gen and story/gameplay plays such a vital role, then why the braging by PS4 fans and Xbox One fans that RYSE or Shadow Fall are such a killer in graphics department? Tell me one good reason the Killzone demo at E3 looked any better compared to COD in any department? The generic action gameplay? Oh what a joy.

As for the so called general purpose PC, you realzie that Kabini/Temash (based on Jaguar) are powering low power tablet and netbooks? It isn't even a proper desktop replacement chip, It isn't the 8 core Jaguar that's showing miracle on the consoles, its the GCN based Radeon chip which is the only thing that can keep the consoles up to a low-level PC.

And regarding the APU, if you think they are not on level with upcoming consoles. Kaveri APU is coming, it will cost sub $150 and it will not be based on a low power Jaguar core but a full x86 Steamroller core architecture and a Volcanic Islands Radeon iGP. Its the closest thing in terms or design close to a console but its much more powerful.

On the other hand, you say stuff like innovation, physics and immersion are what games better. PC has been doing that since the day it came to being. PhysX/OpenCL/Cuda/AVX/3DVision /Eyefinity/VirtualReality, all begins from the PC.

And what did the console do so awesome in the last 5 years? Oh yes i remember, Kinect/Wii/Move.. What a success in terms of technology and immersion.

If these articles weren't titled "PS4 is a high-end PC" then we wouldn't have to come in here and set things straight.

If you want affordable, go buy a Wii or an Ouya...

and Battlefield 4 in 720P, so much for next gen!