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Nothing better with Kinect, say scientists

A team of scientists at Cambridge University, England, have concluded that absolutely nothing can be improved, bettered or enhanced through the use of Microsoft’s popular motion sensing input device.

Since launching in 2010, numerous Xbox 360 games have claimed to be better with Kinect. However, scientists involved in the 3-year research project have stated that, despite extensive testing, they could find no evidence to suggest that Kinect was capable of benefiting anything.

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Ksar4659d ago

Seems legit.

Xbox One, day One.

Godlovesgamers4659d ago

"Seems legit" LOL! It's satire smarty pants!

guitarded774659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

That was the joke. I think you missed it.

Technically, I'm a scientist (computer scientist), and I can say silly stuff too. Like when they have a "Doctor" on commercials and you read the small print at the bottom of the screen and it says they're in their residency.

JhawkFootball064659d ago

This has to be the most satire troll article I've seen. How does this get approved?

abzdine4659d ago

Kinect is the worst things that happened to gaming if you ask me.
The tech is just broken and doesn't work.
Now with the sky high PS4 pre orders Microsoft are wetting their pants

Conzul4659d ago

@JhawkFootball06

For funzies? Lighten up FFS

Gster4659d ago

This article could potentially DisKinect some loyal fans who may not have a sensor humour :p

BISHOP-BRASIL4658d ago

@guitarded77

Scientist here too, a biologist. You probably knows as much as I on how the whole stuff about publishing papers work, doesn't really matter who's doing the talk as long as the scientific method was applied and the paper was submited to peer review. Not disagreeing with you, most of those commercials, resident or doctor, it's just paid bull, but it has little to do with residency, just a paid opinion, not proper science.

Back on topic, obviously this article is a satire, but actually it would be easy to make such a study, just get a sample of people to test games available with and without kinect and ask 'em to measure their enjoyment through a set ammount of time gaming in either method. As long as the sample is wide enough and the rating is well defined, you can say if Kinect make games more enjoyable to most people or not.

NewMonday4658d ago

"Seems legit" is slang, he means the opposite.

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ZeroX98764659d ago

fitness games, dance games, mini-games benefits all from kinect. voice recognition could be done on a headset.

Kinect is not better for me, but my sister has been enjoying it like crazy! I showed her the move and she liked it, just not as much as kinect.

What kinect can't do is movement through large areas in a game. find a way to play skyrim with kinect per example. I know you can't at the moment, but moving freely in this large open world would be hard without a controller.

motion control when playing with a controller at the same time isn't convenient at all. Kinect is great, just not for everyone.

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe MS is targeting all those original Wii owners? people that are searching for a new experience like the wiimote, but doesn't find this "new experience" on the Wii U.

guitarded774659d ago

I agree with you. I have Move and Kinect, and I prefer Move, but my wife and her friends like the Kinect. The Kinect has its advantages when it comes to dancing and fitness games, but that's about the best use for it so far.

Narutone664659d ago

It took them 3 years to come to that conclusions. Lol.

rainslacker4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

I wouldn't doubt that MS wants that audience. I'm sure Sony and Nintendo do as well. But even MS is smart enough to know that they will not get that audience with a $500 system.

Wii had more going for it with the casuals than the WiiMote making it more inviting to get into gaming. It was also a great party device, and the price was low enough to make it appealing for a family looking for a good value in a gaming machine.

Unfortunately, IF MS were looking to capture that audience, I believe they won't get it even if they were willing to spend $500. Kinect has been around long enough that people that wanted to try it probably already have. All in all, if the word starts getting out to the casuals about it, there is plenty of Kinect 1.0 articles that will make it seem not quite that appealing.

I also believe the appeal of this type of gaming among the family casual group has waned as this gen has drawn to a close.

I believe MS, based on it's reveal, is squarely targeting the group of people that want an all purpose entertainment device. Those that are so into doing everything on their smartphones and tablets. It's been their focus for a while to get that group anyway possible...even to the point of designing an entire OS line around tablets/phones, and their game machine is squarely focused on convenience...whilst using that same OS.

Gster4659d ago

I really don't know what those scientist guys are talking about. I used it for wiping my arse and I had a great time with it, no shit!
Only afterwards it was dis-Stink-tly less responsive!!
Maybe I'm just losing my touch, or is it my toilet paper!!!

negative4658d ago

don't do that

just don't

StoutBEER4659d ago

Im no fan of Kinect... but this is utter bullshit. I looked at the title and was like right, someone needs to calm down.

RobbyGrob4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

It doesn't really matter how much you improve upon something that just isn't a good idea to begin with. Gaming with your body and voice isn't gaming.

What difference does it make how close to the real thing that playing a tennis game is when you don't enjoy playing tennis in real life? If you enjoy tennis, you go play tennis. You don't turn on your console and pretend to play tennis against virtual opponents. Playing a virtual sport in a faked real way takes the joy AWAY from both the sport and from the game. You'd much rather play actual tennis, or play a tennis video game with a controller. See what i mean? There's no point in turning this activity into a video game which is played in the same way that you'd perform the real thing, because it's not nearly as entertaining as the actual thing, nor as entertaining as a classic controller-based tennis game would be from the perspective of a gamer. It doesn't ADD anything. It just TAKES AWAY both worlds when you realize that you're not getting neither of the good bits of either experience..

When you turn on your console, you expect to play a video game. And video games are played with controllers. That's what they've always been for. Similarly, you expect to play tennis when you enter a tennis court. There's absolutely no good reason to move any of the actions that you could do in a game with a controller to a motion-sensing technology. It will wear you out and piss you off once you realize that you have to repeat swinging your arms or shouting a word every single time that you need to perform that certain repetitive action. That's what nice little buttons are for.

Motion-controllers lose their charm and become horrible chores very quickly. A device that takes you as far away from comfortable, precise and reactive gaming as you could possible come, by removing all button interfaces and only using your full body motion and voice as input, is about as good an idea to a gamer as it is to introduce controllers to a person who likes to sing and dance. It's a really, really corny idea that only ever will be mainstream with the Singstar people.

All you people who say that it's a good thing that you're forced to get a Kinect when you buy an XB1 because it makes it a sure bet for developers to include motion-sensing functions into their games as everyone will be able to use them; have you considered that this very idea might actually scare AWAY a lot of potential customers because they absolutely DON'T want to have to use any form of motion-sensing to play their games? Kinect is the sole reason for why i for one would never ever get an XB1. It alone destroys what could have been a great gaming console. No way am i gonna pay for something i'm not only never gonna use, but that i'm completely principally against for the good of all gamers. These terrible ideas need to die a terrible death. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find that a lot of the PS4 pre-orders were made by Nintendo Wii people who first-hand learned how terrible motion-sensing is for gaming and who are run the other way when they see another console forcing them to do the same shit.

As ridiculous as the article was, i completely agree with it. 97% of gaming activities with a motion-sensing camera as opposed to a controller remaining unimproved or being worse sounds about right. I feel genuinely sorry for all the people who are fooled big-time by the idea of their new Kinect giving them great new pleasures in gaming. You're going to be terribly, terribly disappointed when you realize you spent a hundred bucks on this most pointless of all console ideas.

RobbyGrob4659d ago

By the way, where i write " run the other way when they see another console forcing them to do the same shit" i'm aiming at the XB1, not the Wii U.

Gster4659d ago

I made a couple of jokes about Kinect above, but really, thats all they were, were jokes. I think we can safely say that the new Kinect 2 has been vastly improved over kinect 1 with regard to latency, tracking, view and other features.

With that said, I think there is a market out there for those who would prefer to be physically active while playing a game, especially if their movements respond exactly as they should on screen. Anything that involves physical movement and gets the old ticker beating is good for you fitness wise.

If the new Kinect is as precise as they claim it is, I think it would make the whole experience that more realistic and therefore a lot more fun. What you said above maybe true, but if its made more realistic with Kinect 2, and your a sporty, active person, you could be very happy with your new purchase for those rainy, cold, dark, long winter days.

Personally though, I'm not one of those people so I'll be stickin to my DS4 simply as a matter of personal preference and choice.

TomShoe4658d ago

That guy's funny. Looks like someone is a bit lacking in the sarcasm department.

http://bit.ly/19hDmHh

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Zeref4659d ago

Why is this getting approved?

digitalscrutiny4659d ago

Because it's science. And science is fact!

coolmastermarktwo4659d ago

It's not just science. It's rocket science.

NatureOfLogic4659d ago

"Why is this getting approved?"

uh, Maybe because it's gaming related and kinect's worth seems to be the hot topic right now. I may be wrong, but I'm trying to use a little common sense here. Something that most fanboys like yourself seem to be incapable of.

gamebrit4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

It's a parody article.

From the site:

"The Daily Pixel is a comedy website featuring spoof and satirical news reports from the world of video games and technology. All of the content is made-up and should not be taken as factual."

Zeref4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

You fail at common sense. Ironic for someone with the nickname "NatureOfLogic"

XboxFun4658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

Maybe I too should dig up flame/spoof articles from 4 or 5 months ago and get them approved on N4G.

All I need is a "MS is bad" or "100 reasons not to buy Xbox One" type of article from a blog or some other no name site...

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christocolus4659d ago

Dude it baffles me too...but in other news.I listend to major nelson and phil spencers podcast and I'm glad ms is also planning to make a strong showing at tgs..most likely one of the new ips in the works may be lost odysee 2 or blu dragon2.

slimpickens4658d ago

Now don't you start getting me excited! If this news is true then I'm even more excited about XBO. Only thing that sucks is I can't find any to reserve at reasonable price.

christocolus4659d ago

Dude it baffles me too but i guess its to be expected from N4G. That aside,I listened to major nelson and phil spencers interview and I was kinda glad to know that ms has big plans for tgs too.most likely phantum dust2, blinx 3 ,blu dragon 2 or lost odysee 2 may be announced.... Just hopeful.

Xsilvermist4659d ago

And ya name zeref i mean shit i like fairy tail as much as the next guy u choose a character that hardly shows his face in the show call me natsu.

vigilante_man4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

It is not any worse than most of the daft articles we will be seeing until new consoles are released.

20 reasons to buy PS4
20 reasons NOT to buy PS4
20 reasons to buy XB1
20 reasons NOT to buy XB1
blah... blah...

At least this was funny!

Phoenix764659d ago

@coolmaster - it's not rocket science, it's quantum physics!!! Lol

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Ashlen4659d ago

Did they test rocket science?

boing14659d ago

Don't have to be a scientist to know that.

KonsoruMasuta4659d ago

Unless it's an Eroge. Now that, I would buy.

A for Adult kinect game, FTW!

SirBradders4658d ago

He might have one and just want a new experience lol

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot18d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle17d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7717d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7722d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300023d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7223d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit22d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania23d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit22d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0722d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr23d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr22d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9523d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7223d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--22d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7222d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket22d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm22d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde22d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_23d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted23d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit22d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT23d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers23d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14922d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0722d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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