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Xbox One Hardware Gets Massive Downvotes on Youtube, Trolling or Customer Dissatisfaction?

Microsoft’s upcoming console Xbox One seems to be more and more the center of controversy on the internet, despite the now rather numerous policy reversals enacted by the manufacturer to try and placate potential customers.

Many YouTube users in particular seem to be quite keen on voting Xbox One hardware-related videos down in percentages that look disproportionate to what the kind of video would warrant in normal conditions. In comparison PS4 hardware-related videos do much better.

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xHeavYx4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

A bit of both,I can't see myself paying $500 for a cable box when I can choose the more powerful PS4. I don't need something to help me watch TV, since in perfectly capable of using a remote. I'd also feel weird yelling at the TV.
I want a console that focuses on gaming instead of gimmicks

Abriael4706d ago

I agree, it's downright impossible that all those downvotes are trolls, just as it's impossible for all of them to be legit. The 14% ratio on the specific hardware is probably nearer to realistic opinion since they're less visible.

shoddy4706d ago

I don't see any fanboy that is pathetic enough to make ten account to down vote a video.

Tony-A4706d ago

I think that, either way you look at it, the overwhelming backlash that the XBO seems to get - whether justified or not - really can't be good for their reputation.

This sort of stuff (even if the majority were to be trolls) tends to leak into the mainstream and leave a bad mark on the console.

It's bad enough people are hating on Windows 8 and ignoring Windows Phones despite some of them actually being pretty good and quite powerful. The whole "weaker than PS4" and "more expensive than the PS4" is already being talked about by those outside of threads like these.

mikeslemonade4706d ago

Youtube is the casual audience and if they don't like X1 then it's very telling.

SilentNegotiator4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Microsoft has made a powerful enemy...THEMSELVES.

Oh, and gamers. They're the ones downvoting their videos.

georgeenoob4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Dejavu all over again. Except this time, instead of Blu Ray vs DVD, it's ddr5 vs ddr3 or the amount of RAM. I bet game developers are laughing their a*s off.

Have fun believing devs are going to use more than 200mb of RAM (most likely none) than the X1, let alone 3GB+ of RAM or whatever you Sony fanboys are believing in your fantasy lands.

@Heavy
"I want a console that focuses on gaming instead of gimmicks"

X1 doesn't focus on games? Ahh, classic Sony fanboys. So MS didn't announce a dozen exclusives for X1 at E3, where Kinect barely made a presence.

So let me get this straight. If X1 doesn't focus on games, then PS4 shouldn't even be called a gaming console, it must be a plain box with zero strength in anything. Are you seriously going to pretend X1's exclusive line-up doesn't embarrassingly demolish PS4's?

Tony-A4706d ago

@george:

I find it really hard to believe that you're actually this delusional.

I would continue this post by completely tearing yours to shreds and humiliating you, but it seems as if you do a pretty good job at that yourself. Keep up the good work, man!

xHeavYx4706d ago

@ George
Still waiting for you to tell me why the PS4 is getting more preorders than the One

SniperControl4706d ago

Dont you need a remote to turn on the cable box in the first place?

I am being totally serious with this question,I have been asking this same question since the X1 announce, no one seems to be able to answer this.

rainslacker4706d ago

@Sniper

It depends on the cable box. Some of them have external input controls through the HDMI to allow a 3rd party remote, or one that comes with a different device, be able to control it. You'd have to check with your cable company, or possibly look on the net, to see if your box is capable of this, and find out which spec it supports...there is more than one.

Once finding this out, looking on the xbox forums would be a good place to start.

It's a good question to ask though. One that hasn't been addressed to my knowledge.

paul-p19884706d ago

I love Georgenoobs comments, whenever i've got that monday morning feeling i know i can rely on his comments to make me laugh :)

pyramidshead4706d ago

@georgenoob

"Are you seriously going to pretend X1's exclusive line-up doesn't embarrassingly demolish PS4's?"

There's this thing called opinion, and taste. What that statement above is called an opinion and that's yours. :). Others don't share the same....quite ALOT of others it seems. Just because Microsoft may have more launch games doesn't mean PS4s lineup isn't 'enough', because it seems to be with the amount of people buying one. Better to stagger the roster than blow the wod at the first hurdle right? The PS4 actually has more games in the making in the first year than the XB1, but I can already see you moving those goalposts to another argument of "quality vs quantity"*rolls eyes*. Plus we'll/I'll be still pretty busy on our/my PS3/s to notice any 'lack' of games you seem to see it has, there's about 4-5 exclusives still to snap up.

Again I love your comments like @paul-p1988 said. I just imagine you completely in tears while you type, it makes it more amusing :p.

dedicatedtogamers4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

It's the same hate-wagon that plagued the PS3 for its first 24 months.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter if they're trolls, legitimate customers, or a mix (most likely it's a mix). Because in the end, it is the negative perception that is going to damage the Xbox brand. Anyone who thought all the negativity would evaporate after Microsoft's 180 was being a bit too optimistic. The Xbox brand has a very long road ahead. It's the same road that Sony and Nintendo have walked in the past and it's the same road that killed SEGA, SNK Playmore, and Atari's presence in the console market.

Syntax-Error4706d ago

@George-You commented on something positive about X1 and the next 10 comments were people attacking you. That's the common trend on here. This site is filled with that. If you want to bubble up and not get attacked, say something positive about PS4 and you'll be just fine.

Everyone on here is parrot repeating what they heard and not what they know. The fact that they keep saying the X1 is a cable box shows how ignorant they are. How can it be a cable box when your cable/satellite hooks up to it? It's a hub. It enables you to watch TV without switching back and forth through INPUTS(remote). In order for you to watch tv you have to switch your televisions input using the remote. X1 enables you to never do that. You just say XBOX TV and it switches automatically. It has nothing to do with converting anything. People need to read and stop repeating crap they heard from a 12 year old.

YNWA964706d ago

'Any fanboy that is pathetic enough'
Yeah really, there is no end to how low these losers will stoop to. I think MS will know there is a percentage of retarded gamers out there that do not have much of a life outside of the net, who troll all day, taking breaks to relieve pressure built up (Tera Patrick videos) and generally do not contribute much benefit to society.

DragonKnight4706d ago

Didn't you know? All the internet are bias Sony fanboys just like here on N4G. /s

Rivitur4706d ago

George needs a blog so we can all bash his ass at once and see his comebacks.

Imalwaysright4706d ago

@ Dragonknight PS fanboys are ruling the world right now and they are the only ones criticizing MS. They were also the ones that didn't pre-order the X1 and forced MS to change their policies. Damn you PS3 fanboys for not being corporate apologists, for fighting for your rights as consumers and for not forgetting what MS tried to do to the industry. It is almost as if there are more PS3 fanboys than consumers in general but... that can't be right can it?

YNWA964706d ago

@ Iamalwaysright,
Right! Watch, Sony not corporate? This is last chance saloon for these guys. Everything else is failing for them. They have to do what it takes to get all you back. Be careful what you wish for. When shareholders smell profit, they want more... charges will appear....

@ rivitur,
Very intelligent. I guess your ass is tired of getting bashed....

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Boody-Bandit4706d ago

quoted from georgenoob
" X1 at E3, where Kinect barely made a presence."

^You say this as if it's a good thing when the X1 wont function without Kinect plugged in? MS is all over the place with the X1. The only thing for sure is they tried to force the consumers hand with the direction the industry would head and the consumer told them to SHOVE IT UP THEIR BACKSIDE. <- That is why MS has pulled a 180.

As far as these amazing games from MS? I am so sick of MS fans, which I am STILL 1, (AT LEAST THIS GENERATION - I'm going full on Sony next gen) talking about this deep exclusive pool of titles MS has coming out for the X1. Dead Rising 3, Ryse and Killer Instinct are ALL rentals to me personally.

Ryse is a game without an identity. That is why it went from a God of War killer to a Kinect game for the 360 and now it's going to the X1 back to traditional controls but heavily reliant on QTE's.

Dead Rising, at least to me personally is a smash and grab beatem up. I almost always rent games from that genre. I never was big on any Dead Rising game. Just my opinion but hardly a AAA title regardless of genre or console preference.

Killer Instinct? Where in the hell do I begin. Racing, anything on wheels for that matter, is far and away my favorite genre but fighting is 2nd for my gaming preferences. I own several fight sticks across all formats. Some custom, some traditional, all excellent. I even own 2 that work on all formats.

I was a HUGE Killer Instinct fan back in a day and have been one of those guys screaming to the high heavens for MS to have Rare revive the franchise since they purchased Rare. Killer Instinct looks like SFIV graphically. It does NOT look that good for a next generation game at all. Just look at the edges on Jago's shoulders and the weak effects on Glacious when he throws ice. The particles look like they are from early this generation.

Also let's not forget the 800lb gorilla in the room. It's not being made by Rare and it's being mainstreamed in that it is ridiculously easy to pull off massive combos. Nearly everything LINKS / CHAINS. Most hardcore fight fans I personally know that have played it said it takes 2 mins to be great and don't see a whole lot of depth. Either or it's not a AAA title.

The absolute ONLY game MS has going for them at jump is Forza 5 which I probably have more miles / hours playing than 99.5% of N4G members...... B-U-T Turn 10, thanks to MS, has abandon current wheel support and there is still NO tangible information on exactly what model Thrustmaster will use for their official Forza 5 wheel. Either or it's a complete kick in the nut sack for a guy like me that has spent over a $1000 dollars on my current "Official Forza 4 Wheel - The CSR Elite from Fanatec" that if I want to play Forza 5, a game that is suppose to be a sim, is MEANT to be played, with a wheel.

I have strongly favored MS hardware over the past 2 generations. I am NOBODIES fanboy and rarely even post on N4G any more. I vote down most of what I run across on MS. They have worked my last nerve in that they are arrogant, greedy, ignorant, snobbish and just making way too many mistakes all the while telling the gamer this is the way it is, DEAL WITH IT.

Yeah MS, how is that working out for you? All of these articles whether for or against MS don't mean sh*t to me. I had a moment of weakness and preordered the X1 the day MS announced DRM was null and void but have since rescinded my preorder. As of now I don't see me getting an X1 anytime soon if ever.

So go peddle your nonsense somewhere else. We are all filled up with crazy here already.

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redwin4706d ago

All this voting down Xbox and everyone is going to end up downloading their games anyway. Lol, the only people that are gonna lose here are people that work at GameStop, Sony, because it means the definite death of blueray, and the companies that print the games. Gamers won't lose, they just won't have to wait at the store untill midnight to get their favorite games. All this cyber manipulation won't work on me. GameStop if fighting hard I can see that, but its inevitable, GameStop will end up like Blockboster video.

Darrius Cole4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

@Brutallyhonest

Did you really spend $1000 on a Forza wheel? Or, did you mean over $1000 on Forza and Forza related accessories for the 360 including the wheel and other things?

Either way you are the perfect illustration of Microsoft's problem. The policies that Microsoft has been attempting to put in place are so bad that they have driven people like you away from their product.

Sometimes people make mistakes. They sometimes get into uncharacteristically bad places mentally and make the wrong decision. Sometimes people just make the wrong decision from a simple brain-lapse, even though they are not in a bad situation or under any pressure at all.

BUT

At a certain point, bad decisions are indicative of mistakes. Sometimes bad decisions are simply indicators of who you really are.

@redwin

Not almost.

Blockbuster was renting DVD's, and smacking people when they forgot to bring those DVD's back on time. I once had a $30 late fee at Blockbuster. Video games have value after they have been played, and Gamestop is simply making a market in trading that value. There is no-way that they majority of consumers stop buying disc-based games, which retain their value after use, and start paying the same amount of money for downloaded games which have no value after they are downloaded. The masses of people are smarter than that.

krazeecain4706d ago

@rhino did you really, honestly, seriously just compare Sony fans to a terrorist organization?! Wow. Just wow. smh...

Boody-Bandit4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

@Darrius Cole

Yes I spent over a $1000 dollars on my wheel, pedal, shifter combo just for Forza 4.

Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel - $599
Fanatec Clubsport Pedals V2 - $249
TH8RS shifter w/PCB 360 functionality $229
That doesn't include shipping or the $1500 I spent on the VRC 1000 (by carriage works) Rig I have the wheel, pedal, shifter combo mounted to. I also have a 3 x 46" LED micro bezel displays hooked up to XBOX 360's utilizing 3 copies of Forza 4 and Forza 3. Oh and my 3 buttkickers (tactile transducers) hooked up to my rig to simulate road noise, engine rumble, rumble strips and feedback when you make contact with other cars (bumping, grinding, smashing and crashing).

So yes, I have a lot of coin invested into the 360 for me to enjoy some Forza to the fullest most immersive experience I can have without being on actual tarmac. My biggest concern, which I all but know will be a reality, is that the Thrustmaster wheel wont be as good as my current custom Fanatec / Thrustmaster combo I already own. I don't want to go backwards in hardware just to play Forza 5 all the while spending even more coin to have an inferior wheel, pedal combo.

As of now we don't even know if Thrustmaster is going to model their Official Forza 5 wheel after their T500 (Official GT5 wheel) model. If they did that would be great but still a slight step backwards from what I am currently using. There is NO reason MS could not allow Fanatec access to the X1 code to patch / update the CSR Elite with firmware to work on the XBOX ONE. But MS just loves their money and licensing fees.

Another thing is there is absolutely no word if Forza 5 will support triple panels. I have a feeling that wont happen either. If it turns out that it wont that is yet another step backwards for guys like me with this series headed into next gen.

My facebook gaming page - https://www.facebook.com/bo...

You can see my big boy setup there. ;)

JessiePinkmanYo4706d ago

@ Georgenoob-please stop. I think you're saying this stuff for a laugh and to see how many disagrees you can get.
Two things (among many) that stick out in your post. Blu ray went against HDDVD not DVD. Also...if you know anything about computers, DDR 3 was the updated version of DDR2. Can you guess what DDR5 is? There is no format war with that.
Your posts reek of fanboyism and you sound like a clown. I like all the systems but if there's a legit gripe on it I'll point it out, not make up some random stuff up where other consoles fall short.

The_Con-Sept4706d ago

There was a video about their stupid announcement? I didn't even know the video existed... And I'm a big PlayStation gamer. I own every platform and revision. Seriously I would have downvoted if I saw it but I didn't know the video existed....

Phone! Go to YouTube! Search xboned specifications video!

christrules00414706d ago

@George

You know why Microsoft unveiled most of there exclusives at E3 right? Because Microsoft pissed off a majority of there install base. All Sony had to do at E3 was to say they don't have DRM and have a lower price point.

Microsoft has 5 exclusives left to show where as Sony has 15 exclusives left to show that release in the first year and another 10 after that.

jjb19814706d ago

@george
Its that kind of thinking that nets you one bubble...

Psn8004706d ago

Not true that is very harsh .

Blachek4706d ago

I disagree.

I don't think the general public is as tuned into the whole saga related to either console, and any severe down-votes would likely be the result of a boycott organized by a gamer forum.

I am not saying that MS hasn't alienated consumers, but I believe aside from educated hardcore gamers you won't have a substantial following that would care either way to down-vote the sites.

limewax4706d ago

lol how sad that you marked Handsome Jack as a personal attack. It's a quote from the game the character belongs to. Well I guess expecting there to be gamers at N4G is expecting too much in all honesty

Gekko364706d ago

LOL This type of shit really makes my day!. A non issue painted as news. Most people don't care what internet gremlins like us post on here and other sites think and it has no real impact on sales in the long run, just look at the ps3.

We are the lowest of the low, gobshite's who think our opinions will make a difference. They haven't and they never will.

Praystation and Xbox will do just fine without us. Hard core gamers are not important, we are the insignificant minority. It's just our own ego's and wank fantasies that make us think it matters.

We are all pretty much thick for the most part ignorant of the gaming industry in general and using what little we know to pass judgement on others and their intelligence. We are twat's to be honest.

So I'm gonna watch Doctor Who reruns, have some cake and custard and chill out.

See I feel better already for getting that off my chest. Tootles

Elwenil4706d ago

I can't help but notice the rather large number of fervent Xbox One supporters who have join dates in the just the last few months.

Just an observation...

user55757084705d ago

they need to stop flip flopping...people dont really know what features they're getting at this point

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Lwhit64706d ago

Yeah and why would I pay for ANY cable box when cable is practically on it's death bed?

HammadTheBeast4706d ago

I'm more puzzled about the fact that in order to access TV.... you need to have a cable box plugged in....

Doesn't that just make it a glorified input hub?

T24706d ago

Im more concerned where all these so called great cablebox features will actually work

LackTrue4K4706d ago

hell ya!!! cable has been replaces with smart tv's and Set-tops!!!

cable is on its way out, but with a XboxOne...i would not be surprised if there was some shady deal between Microsoft and cable company's!

Abriael4706d ago

The funny part is that in many european countries cable is almost unused. Like 5-10% of the population uses cable because we have very solid non-pay TV channels. Very few are gonna care about the whole "TVTVTV" thing in Europe.

MarkusMcNugen4706d ago

@HammadTheBeat

Kind of. Its more like a wrapper for the input signal since it can have more features built on top of the normal cable signal.

@Everyone

Just wait. Its possible for cable to make a comeback. A lot of them have matched the private DVR/PVR companies products features. Although the one thing I could see making an actual difference when it comes to cable would be buffet style cable plans.

Instead of buying a package with 100 channels you will never watch, you could pay a small amount for individual channels and customize your package. This one thing would make cable really popular again, well, thats my opinion anyway...

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_FantasmA_4706d ago

Can you imagine when everyone is sleeping and you finally have some alone time but you have to yell at your Spybox to turn on Pornhub?

XRROD ONE: "I can't hear you, but it sounded like you said Pornhub? Now connecting. Raising volume to 120%. Enjoy yourself." Everybody wakes up, "WTF are you watching son, you perv, is this what you bought this thing for??"

Pisque4706d ago

notice

the semi-hidden, obvious troll starts at the second paragraph.

Spinal4706d ago

Loooool that was funny as hell.

modesign4706d ago

Just get a chromebook for watching porn

Abriael4706d ago

Not very realistic, but funny as hell :D

lazyboyblue4706d ago

Wii u is best for pornhub. It has a porn curtain thing. ;-)

negative4706d ago

Wow the fanboy trolling is off the charts today. Good show!

VENOMACR4706d ago

Idk why POS4 fanboys troll so hard on Xbox related items. I'm not getting a POS4, so why would I go and read about it and make stupid comments that make no sense? First of all, it's not a damn iPhone and doesn't talk back to you (that I know of) so your whole point at trying to be funny just makes you sound childish and pathetic. If everyone is asleep why would you yell in the first place and not turn the system on manually? Some people are so stupid I'm glad your getting a POS4 and not an X1. Your the guy in Battlefield that spins in circles and shoots at the ground or races backwards in Forza.

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Tatsuya 4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

I am one of the downvoters and I inform people of the weaker pos Xbone. People need to know which is the better choice here and I'll keep promoting PS4 to all the people I know and acquaintances. Why should we support a company that was going to bring the destruction of the gaming industry? I'll keep supporting SONY, because they care, because they give us what we want/need, what we deserved. SONY is doing the right thing and that is why they have my allegiance.

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Max-Zorin4706d ago

You'd probably take a bullet for Mark Cerny too. Lmao allegiance.........

Ol_G4706d ago

Dude your going too far i own a wii u and plan buying ps4 when ff15 comes out we all know Xbone done is bad in so many ways but why start a sony defense force don't you have anything better to do than wasting time like that and just so you know they are both destroying the industry with higher development costs blatant copying exclusivity contracts forcing certain policies down our throat because of ps360 many studio's closed and it will be no different this gen

Xsilvermist4706d ago

U disagree with him becuz he feelsThe need to inform people what their getting into wow stupidity runs deep they are a shit ton of people who don't know half of the shit about Xbox one by him doing what he does people feel the need to research the console or choose the ps4 which is clearly the best console at this point don't deny it.

SignifiedSix914706d ago

And that just shows that most of the downvotes probably are from the sony fanboys. They troll everywhere on the internet. Especially the Xbox facebook page.

No wonder i dont want a PS4. Who wants to game with immature kids anyways?

n4rc4706d ago

Lol... Wow..

Posts tonight are downright comical..

Yes.. Let's all pretend all the Xbox does is watch TV... And jee, YouTube comments are always so informative, I can't believe any trolling g goes on there...

Bed time kids.. Lol

princejb1344706d ago

I support Sony because they back their consoles up with many games
Well probably see new IPS in the xone early cycle than they new IPS will stop for a bunch of sequels. After all that's what MS been doing since the first xbox

VENOMACR4706d ago

Haha Sony cares? Who do you think they are, the Red Cross? They care as long as your shelling out money, just like ANY company. It's good to see this is what your so passionate about, great cause. You sound ridiculous like Sony pays your bills. This is an Xbox article and your getting hard talking about Sony. Something wrong with you.

Wasn't the PS3 more powerful and did more then a 360, yet 360 spanked it? So your argument of it being "more powerful therefor it's better" is irrelevant cause if that was the case the 360 should have been destroyed.

The "destruction of the gaming industry" really? Lol you didn't like it cause it was a change. Sharing games with family and friends was an awesome concept. I was hoping Crapstop would have gone out of business. You want to talk about a company who doesn't care about its gaming community. "Oh you just bought the new Madden, here's $20, we'll put it on our shelves for $55. Take care dipshit."

MajorLazer4706d ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night :) I too have preordered a PS4 but I wont be sleeping with mine, unlike yourself.

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theWB274706d ago

Know what's strange...the PS4 has all of the "other" functions of the X1 except the HDMI in and the Kinect bundled.

Other than those two...the PS4 is being dedicated to as many social and entertainment gimmicks as the X1. We can see that with the amount of ram being dedicated to things other gaming.

So people keep acting as though they're getting a machine that has all of its power dedicated to games when it's not the case.

For the people who'll claim, well Sony doesn't talk about it like Microsoft does. Well actions speak louder than words...even if they don't talk about it, the machine is being built around content other than just games.

KwietStorm_BLM4706d ago

I didn't know PS4 was voice operated for switching to TV and media features. I didn't know it had Windows apps with snap features either. That definitely levels things out. Could you link me to where Sony detailed those things?

Campy da Camper4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

this is true but for me what matters most is games. Games. Sony gives me tons and tons of games that i enjoy playing: The Last of Us uncharted, Infamous, God of War, little big planet, ratchet and clank and on and on. I'm never going to use my gaming console as a remote, to connect to Facebook, watch sports and I'm never going to wave or talk to my TV. I just want to sit down and play games.

Each console charges 50 bucks for a year (optional) and I get tons of games from my 50 bucks. For me that's the bottom line. Games, games, games. Sony Intergrating social media is fine because they have a track record of providing awesome 1st party games that I can play with a controller.

They are not adding all this mandatory stuff and trying to cross sell me on other uses for the console. If people want motion controls they can buy it separately. I'm not forced to have the thing hooked up to game.

theWB274706d ago

@KwietStorm
Link me to where the PS4 is dedicated to nothing but video games. Link me to that Sony conference where Sony didn't say the PS4 was built around being social. Microsoft announced they would be making exclusive tv content for the X1 and guess who else is doing the same thing??? Ding ding it's Sony.

I stated the PS4 didn't have Kinect, thus not being voice operated. Wanna know why I can't link you to those...cause Sony hasn't released any information regarding it's OS functions.

But it isn't hard to see that with the ram not all being dedicated to games, Sony specifically stating in their conference how heavily the PS4 is built around social features, and apps already on the PS3 that will come to the PS4 that the PS4 will be just as heavily focused on things other games as the X1.

Even if Sony chooses to keep it's talk on games.

xHeavYx4706d ago

theWB27, take a look at this image, you are the One who says that actions speak louder than words, this shows how MS abandoned the hardcore gamers when Kinect came around. Now that it's mandatory, what do you think it's going to happen?
http://i.imgur.com/zl10SZ0....

theWB274706d ago

@xHeavYx

Cute picture..really it is. Weird when you actually look at the games most are sequels, there are about 4 MLB the Shows, a couple God of Wars, spinoffs to sequels like LPB Karting, 3 Yakuza titles that I caught, some games that barely sold 300k copies and rated 6 or below, 2 Gran Turismos...I mean I could go on. Games no one has really ever heard of. 2 Ratchet and Clanks...

I mean...really when you look at it...it's not that impressive is it? : )

Skips4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

^^^ LMFAO!!!

Same thing could be said on the 360 side. Nothing but a bunch of sequels!!! XD A flopped Crackdown sequel.... More Halo, Forza sequels and a garbage Gears Of War prequel that nobody liked... http://www.amazon.com/Gears...

Hell, Judgement even sold less than Ascension and it was the ONLY 360 exclusive to come out this year.

You talk about "mediocre" when MS's side has more "Red" games (low rating = less than 45 on meta) than Sony's. BAHAHA!!

"I mean...really when you look at it...it's not that impressive is it? : )"

You must be talkin about the 360's side because all I see are nothing but Kinect shovelware, sequels, and low rated games. lmao

Core games rated 75 and above for 360 = 6
Core games rated 75 and above for PS3 = 24

lmfao!!! Take away Halo, Gears, and Forza and MS really DOES have NOTHING... What's even more pathetic is Sony released more games for the Move than MS released "core" games. lol

"some games that barely sold 300k copies"

LOL, and everything on 360's side that isn't Halo, Gears, and Forza sold even less. Your point???

jackanderson19854706d ago

@skips

all the MS games sold less than 300k? Kinect Disneyland 2.15million sales, kinect sports 1 and 2 5.6mil and 2.1mil respectively, kinect star wars 1.78mil, kinect adventures 20mil (although that did come packaged with the kinect)

microsoft also has a higher average metacritic rating than Sony and Nintendo (currently only EA beats it)

from a quick glance at MS Studios page on metacritic they have 9 "core" titles in the 90's or above and i didn't check the full list and even some of the kinect required games achieved a rating of 90 or higher

if you are going to troll you could at least put a bit of effort into it

xHeavYx4706d ago

Lol, yeah, keep mentioning Kinect titles, you'll be playing plenty of those next year

jessupj4706d ago

"Cute picture..really it is. Weird when you actually look at the games most are sequels, there are about 4 MLB the Shows, a couple God of Wars, spinoffs to sequels like LPB Karting, 3 Yakuza titles that I caught, some games that barely sold 300k copies and rated 6 or below, 2 Gran Turismos...I mean I could go on. Games no one has really ever heard of. 2 Ratchet and Clanks...

I mean...really when you look at it...it's not that impressive is it? : )"

You've just proved what a complete and utter fanboy you are with that ridiculous comment.

I don't know why you're here because you obviously hate games.

Good thing MS has people like you that are just too stubborn to admit how absolutely pathetic the last few years have been for the 360 for exclusives.

I find xbox fanboys simply unbelievable.

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DiRtY4706d ago

Trolls...

You must have missed E3. MS announced game after game after game.
It shows how bias you really are if you try to ignore this.

Xbox One AND PS4 will be fine.
After the PSPGo, PS Move, PS Vita Sony won't ship another major hardware-flop.

Heisenburger4706d ago

How "bias" they really are?

So.... you're saying that they are "bias".

I always feel good about myself when I read comments like that.

I must have low self-esteem... :/

Lol I like to think that you still don't comprehend your error(s).

Then again, I'm bias. *snort*

rainslacker4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

bias or not, that many people feel that bias. Reality and perception do not always match up. We could discuss the merits of whether those biases are justified all day and not get anywhere with it, but the fact remains those people will still feel that way.

People latch onto the negative much quicker than the positive.

So whether they're trolls, or just dissatisfied customers, it really doesn't change the outcome of the ratios involved. That much negativity could adversely affect the Xbox One though because of how people form their perceptions, and no amount of reason will change that because of human nature.

We see it on here every day. Bias on both sides plays a big part in the arguments made on here. Not much really changes though. Rational arguments on both sides are ignored. Trolls are given the most attention. Biases stay the same, or get worse. YouTube is hardly a special case.

Deadpoolio4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Game after game? LOL And yet only 4 of them are exclusive....Please learn what your talking about first....95% of what MS showed were TIMED exclusives. Their ONLY exclusive games being Ryse lol, Forza 5, Killer Instinct...

Watch dogs Multi,
Assassins creed 4 multi both have exclusive content on PS4...
Destiny multi again exclusive content on PS4....
Titanfall on 360/PC and they have talked about a PS4 version 6-12 months after launch.
Dead Rising 3..It's Capcom so PS4 will probably be getting Dead Rising 3:Off the record or some sub named title 6 months after...Just like EVERY other game Microsoft published for 3rd parties like Ninja Gaiden 2, Mass Effect 1
Battlefield 4 multi
COD multi
Madden multi

Only other exclusives are launch window an insomniac game LULZ cause anything they make outside of ratchet anymore is a laugh and Quantum Break..

That launch line up isn't all that, huge list of 5 exclusives but thats OK they still give you AA batteries with your controller in 2013 lol....Enjoy you $25 batter packs and your $50 headset adapter just to use 360 turtle beach headsets

ape0074706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

@xHeavYx lol wut?, how can u lie to yourself like that and he has "well said", this site is officially run by ps fanboys

- developers said they are both on par technically including the legendary john carmack

- both systems will have games except xbox one will have more and better launch games, saying xbox one isn't focused on games is sad

- 500$ is a price paid for a "all in one system"

in the end both systems are equally amazing with xbox one being a bit more complete for (cloud, kinect, deticated servers) but those come at a 100$ more . FACT, u can't rationally deny anything from what i said

ABeastNamedTariq4706d ago

What do you mean by more launch games? I can recall Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising..Killer Instinct (I'm pretty sure it's preloaded and available on the system like that puzzle game was for 360, but correct me if I'm wrong).. Idk if you'd consider Project Spark a game, but that too.

For Sony.. Uhhm... Killzone, DriveClub, Knack, DCUO, Planetside 2 (I think), Octodad (?), among other indies.

It all depends on what you consider an exclusive launch game. Some consider things coming to PC to not be exclusive, others don't see it that way.

"Better" is completely subjective.

And if Sony is doing just about everything MS is entertainment wise (according to the WB27 up there) besides Kinect, then why pay $500 for something that can be done at $400? (I'm not trying to knock a purchaser's choice, just making a point to what you were saying.) I'm generally sure that games for Sony's platform (multiplat or otherwise) will have dedicated servers.. It's not really exclusive like you seem to be insinuating. Why put a game on dedicated servers on one console and not the other, risking consumer backlash? (Idk if that's been done, just a thought.) Oh, and, Sony has a cloud too. More than just Gaikai, or else we wouldn't e able to upload cloud saves.

Ol_G4706d ago

in the end both systems are equally amazing with xbox one being a bit more complete for (cloud, kinect, deticated servers) but those come at a 100$ more . FACT, u can't rationally deny anything from what i said

this is crap and has nothing to do with gaming i don't need a fake cloud crappy kinect that will add nothing to games i play and i think you meant dedicated servers wich again add nothing to games especially the games i play multiplayer is not important for a lot of people only if you like shooters and to pay extra for stuff thats free on pc and wii u is just crazy

torchic4706d ago

"including the legendary john carmack"

ape0074706d ago

^^^^^
@OI_G

nope cloud is used for real AI in Forza 5, check that out, cloud in game computing is real, whether u want to admit it or not

@ABeastNamedTariq

sony's cloud feature only include storage capacity and instant game collection, azure's cloud has supports dedicated servers and in game computing such as AI

sony's cloud features are limited and preliminary compared to MS's. FACT

MRMagoo1234706d ago

@ape

Once again another stupid person saying this same thing "developers said they are both on par technically including the legendary john carmack " the guy said they are the same architecture wise he said he doesnt know about power because he has not done benchmarks, how you guys keep leaving out the important parts is beyond me but leaving them out doesnt make them go away.

Abriael4706d ago

Carmack said he hadn't had the time to seriously benchmark them.

Many people don't care for the "all in one", and don't like to pay 100 bucks more for having it shoved down their throat.

Deadpoolio4706d ago

You mean the Bone cloud which isn't available at launch...Ummmm Sony also has cloud plans but good try though.....Ummmm dedicated servers NOPE, for MS exclusives maybe, but 3rd party doubt it...And Again Sony has a camera also, Hell they did have a camera first MS just added stuff to theirs....

And I'm also betting your one of those mentally retarded fanboys who thinks that the cloud will make the graphics better....Cause IT WONT, NOTHING about the cloud has anything to do with graphics at all....Azure is NOT designed to do ANYTHING to graphics, your going to see storage, maybe some matchmaking performance enhancement and possibly but not likely since it games wont be designed by 3rd parties to enhance things like A.I....

The Bone has NOTHING that the PS4 has aside from waiving your hands like a moron and watching Tv through your xbox on your Tv instead of just watching Tv on your Tv.....EVERY OTHER FEATURE is not only on the PS4 but FREE....Everything is locked behind a pay wall on the Bone

NeoTribe4706d ago

They didn't have more games. Sony announced more. Gamescom is upon us and sony is gonna unleashe hell and fury in your face. Microsoft showed all there games prior. Whats your excuse gonna be after sony abliterates xbox at gamecom? Plz stop with the all in one crap. Kinect is trash, and cloud is a gimmick.

WascallyWabbit4706d ago

@Deadpoolio You need to read about how the cloud stuff will work, it's for storage yes, but if you have a decent enough connection they can offload some CPU computation into the cloud - a lot of business' do this already but it's still fairly new to games (Think OnLive)

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Retroman4706d ago

this is the BEST!!! article i've read in years.
dont need a cable box which i have already, dont need a box to control with hands to watch tv. a console to play games YES!!!

fermcr4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

"Xbox One Hardware Gets Massive Downvotes on Youtube, Trolling or Customer Dissatisfaction?"

It's mostly PS devoted fanboys trolling and down-voting. Same thing happens with voting on exclusive games in Metacritic by all fanboys and not just PS.

Die-hard fanboys (PS, MS, Nintendo, PC, Apple, etc) are morons. Simple as that.

BTW, Microsoft needs to release a cheaper X1 without Kinect if they are even thinking of competing for fist place next gen.

FlyingFoxy4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

You could build a much better gaming base PC for a couple hundred more as well, it's just the initial cost that seems a lot. With consoles games cost more and you pay for online now for both systems, games are cheaper on PC and no subscription costs and can do way more than either console.

People obviously want the console for simplicity of plug and play.. it's only worth getting for a handful of good exclusives and thats it.

Angeljuice4706d ago

Trouble is if you want that PC to be as powerful as the new consoles, you have to more than double the consoles stats with the components you use (according to developers, next-gen consoles are more than twice as powerful as a PC with similar stats).

Then of course you have the problem of Microsoft support. Whilst at Uni, my friend Doug was just about the only person who bought legitimate copies of windows and editing software (everyone else used pirated copies).
He was having some issues with compatibility and phoned the Windows technical support line. They asked what computer he was working on (Dell, HP etc), and told them he was using a self built computer. They immediately told him that by running Windows on a non branded computer he was not only ineligible for Windows support but was technically "BREAKING THE LAW". They immediately put the phone down.

I didn't believe him when he told me, so I contacted them and was told exactly the same thing, except this time with a veiled threat of taking legal action against me.

I have no idea if this is a true legal problem or just support staff not wanting to bother to do their job properly, but I have never paid for a legitimate version of windows since (The only advantage is the supposed technical support). If I'm going to break the law one way or another, I don't see why I should pay for the privilege.

I'd be very interested to find out if anyone has had similar problems or this was a one-off incident.

wtopez4706d ago

That is exactly right. The start-up cost is the scary part for many consumers but it's absolutely a more sensible investment in the long run.

Buzz7S4706d ago

"I don't need something to help me watch TV, since in perfectly capable of using a remote."
But you aren't capable of spelling a simple word. Ironic...

True_Samurai4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

That shit was pure trolling and nothing else and you know it

Sony trolls will jump off the cliff for Cerny. I've had a ps3 for 5 years and never in my life have I witnessed this amount of patheticness from gamers. Heck one guy admitted he did disagree at the bottom lmao. Does it makes you feel good? Not a gaming console? I'm not even gonna explain myself again. You guys deny one of Xbox biggest line ups in Ms history. But you bash them for not being STRICTLY gaming. Ding ding it's 2013! No electronic stays strictly to one function you should be happy when you get something that can do now than one thing! You Sony guys makes me laugh too the core

Cam9774706d ago

Youtube is going to be swamped with poor-quality (content, not quality-wise) gameplay videos when this console comes out. It worries me because I have a gaming channel with under 1000 subs so it'll make it even harder to get me seen.

Saying that though, I've recently reformed my channel to make more, better content. I began with a video detailing THE LAST OF US' original ending and when we're going to see it. More will be uploaded this week too, I need more subs before it's too late and these consoles launch.

Angeljuice4706d ago

Missed a big opportunity to advertise there!!!!

kickerz4706d ago

Look at all the Sony fanboys in this Xbox article LOL
Half those YouTube down votes are prolly from you guys. You lot are so friggen negative. i will be happy never to game with you lot on Xbox live. :P

Silver3604706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

@sninpercontrol
Kinet 2.0 is an IR blaster so it should be able to turn on the set top box

teezy4706d ago

I don't think it's trolling, I think it is genuine disappointment and loss of faith after their E3 presentation.

kenshiro1004706d ago

@ george

...What the heck does your comments have to do with the article itself?

Sounds like you're either very insecure about something or ignorance runs in the troll family.

ELBACANO4706d ago

I would say that a bit more on the trolling side I you ask me, my reasons are simple how can someone be not be satisfied with a product that has not launch yet, yes you can base that of announcements but other than that what can you really say, ugly video?, not flashy enough? etc. my point is I preorder a PS4 and how can I say I am not happy with it if I don't even have one in my hands or had a chance to own it, play it and use it for some time. BTW I do realize that it is in reference to the hardware specs given but really? who can say here that these specs are bad? no one is the answer the PS4's are better and that is why ill go with it but in the end the XB1 also has very good specs in my opinion. Finally the reason a say a bit of trolling is because the general consensus does not know about hardware specs they only know about what it can do based upon what they hear or read. I know it was along read but I very seldom post anything and these seem more than appropriate.
Good Day all.

Jrxbarrett4706d ago

Since when does a cable box not come with cable? Stop saying that its annoying. If the Xbox is full of gimmicks.... What do you call the ps eye and the ps vita? I mean the vita has to be a gimmick if you have to create a bundle speculation just to get people thinking about it. I mean I'm getting a product with full features. You will be getting the down grade of what ps4 is supposed to be. Since they can throw away products and make every thing free.

Izzy4084706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Yeah, because the only thing the X1 does is act as a cable box, right? I mean, it's not like the X1 plays videos game, has social apps, records games, broadcasts games (twitch > ustream), lets you use other recording devices, is a dev kit out of the box, filters shitty players, has sports apps, gives you ULIMITED digital storage, or has the most advance sensor out of any platform (even though a lot of people wanted to be optional). So..... yeah, I mean WHO in their right mind would pay over $500 for such a "cable box?"

But in all seriousness, PS fanboys just can't seem to put their ignorance aside for one minute. So the X1 does a lot more than just gaming, ok, so what? Don't most modern devices offer more than just one thing (cell phones, laptops, mp3 players)? What, the PS4 doesn't do anything else besides gaming? Oh, the PS4 has "50%" more power? Well, if it's true, nobody has seen it yet. Compare the exclusives we've seen on both consoles and show me that the graphics are a lot better on the PS4! But you'll probably just say somethings like "wait a few years..." ok, we'll check back down the road and see if there's any difference in visuals yet. In the mean time, that more powerful hardware you fanboys like to brag about doesn't mean a thing.

ovnipc4706d ago

More powerful maybe but has NO GAMES!!! What it has KZ=not bad but not wow neither, Knack=looks like a kids game, Infamous=Didnt like the first 2 this one looks nice but not a reason to buy a console, Order 1886=no info on it yet. Xbox One has KI= looks awsome, Titanfall= A game that will revolutionize like COD did, DR3= Open world zombie game a full city size map, WOW. Forza 5= not a big fan of cars racing but graphics look awesome. X1 day one, if it was not cause of the games I will go for PS4.

dragon824706d ago

Everyone said LBP looked like a kids game too but it turned out to be one of the deepest experiences you can ever have with a video game. I could argue that LBP2 is the MOST hardcore game of this generation.

murderek4706d ago

That "cable box" features dedicated servers for all games, improved match making (Smart Match) and 300,000+ servers.

If I were you, I'd be more worried about the PS4's lack of important "gaming" features than I would be about the Kinect.

LiQuiZoN4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Lots of fanboy stuff going on here but I'd like to just point out the exclusives I've either bought or will buy just this year. Look at the work Sony is putting in for new Ip. Such a solid list.

Playstation allstars
Puppeteer
Rain
Beyond two souls
Gran tirismo 6
Dragons crown

The ps3 looks fantastic right now. The momentum is with playstation. No question.

If you think ps4 has no games...(yawn) or will not have any games...(yawn) you are completely ignoring sony's 15 years of history.

H0RSE4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

The HDMI input can be used for more than just TV, the TV/cable box just tends to be the go to device when discussing the usefulness/purpose of the port.

Also, to claim the X1 is not "focused" on gaming, is plain ignorant. The mindset seems to be that since X1 is focused on more than just gaming, that it's not a "Dedicated" gaming console...what a close-minded, naive viewpoint.

And before I get any "so what," or "I use my console for games," comments or similar comments, remember the countless number of people who bought a PS2/PS3 for the DVD/Blu-ray player.

StoutBEER4706d ago

Umm you dont have to use the Kinect. Are you guys not listening so you can keep using the TV/Kinect argument because you dont have anything else? And before you say the PS4 is WAY beyond the Xbox Carmack stated he was suprised at how SIMILIAR they are. Yes I know the PS4 is still more powerful but they are still really close.
This is my question are we going to have the exact same arguments as last time?

keyz15794706d ago

Just the simple fact that if anyone on here try to say anything positive about the X 1 it's automatically shut down or disagreed says to me that the hate is a ridiculous amount for a console that's not even out how can you have so much hate for it to give me a break it seems like it's at a point where are Microsoft can't do anything to please anybody because so many gamers are crying crying and crying stop whining they switched a lot of policies and they are back flipping as you call it give me a break if you don't like the console don't buy it stay in your dream land with your PS 4

5eriously4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

M$ brought the hate on themselves, their 180 on DRM and resale of games did little to restore confidence.

The damage was done!

5eriously4706d ago

Bubble up for you sir!

@ georgeenoob

One Bubble? See what you get for trolling with an attitude!

50Terabytespersec4706d ago

Oh whoa is me...
I said this way before if Microsoft really cared about games instead of Stocks and Windows branding they would of put all their "Skype" Money, Surface pro Tablet money and Windows 8 Phones and Vista money into this machine and made it a beast! one to be reckoned with! All they had to do is put in Thunderbolt support and M.2 Solid state drive 80 GB and have this Machine do mandatory install off of fast Bluray or proprietary Disk? and I would of and everyone would of been raving! And sell it at a loss since Xbox 360 loss 100's of millions in RROD.. This would of cemented MS as a Game system of the future!!!

strifeblade4705d ago (Edited 4705d ago )

"I am paying 100$ extra dollars for weaker hardware" boohoo.

People are forgetting you are getting kinect 2.0, playstation is offering nothing in its place.

"but i dont want kinect"

then don'y buy it- its that simple.

Kinect will enhance the hardcore experience. We already see that with deadrising 3. With ps4 you do get stronger specs but that only amounts to a 25%-30% power increase according to digital foundry- Which is actually similar to the power disparity between 360 and ps3 this gen. So where it lacks in power x1 makes up with kinect and will enhance the experience further than adding 10 extra frames or less jagies- people are also forgetting that microsoft's cloud and dedicated server support for all 3rd parties is something sony players do not get. The x1 controller uses a faster connection than sony's bluetooth- faster by 20%. The 100$ upgrade is more than justifiable.

I would say that when x1 gets its price cut to 400$- it is sony that need to justify its price when comparing to the x1 since you will get much more because when people go to the store they will see that the x1 voice recognition and motion sensing will win them over to a barebones ps4 at the same price.

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HammadTheBeast4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

We'll.... there haven't been any customers to satisfy or disatisfy so.....

But from pre orders, yes.

Bigpappy4706d ago

More like sheep than trolls, but a combination of both. None of them have touched an X1 yet or even seen it in action.

maximus19854706d ago

I know AA batteries are required for that action

PFFT4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

Thanks god it doesn't require a click-able touch pad.

techuser4705d ago

I bet everyone will still prefer XB1 controllers over any PS control. PC players prefer to use a xbox control when they use one to play on PC. You PS fans are trolls but I'm not even mad.

Xsilvermist4706d ago

Dufaq u mean clickable touch pad that was a fail how is that a bad thing and no one said its required but i know u goona need those required batteries tho.

MRMagoo1234706d ago

how do you know they havent tried the xbone yet , i have a couple times now its not hard to get to use one you know.

dcj05244706d ago

Why'd they dislike it? I have literally 0 interest in the XBOX ONE but why dislike it? /:

M-M4706d ago

People are trying there best to get the message out about the system so that they can change it into a device that focuses on games, which made the 360 super successful in it's first years as a GAMING console.

H0RSE4706d ago (Edited 4706d ago )

You make it sound like all the hate is for some noble cause... I really don't give the majoirty of people that much credit. If your prediction was accurate, you'd think that all these people would be more organized or focused with their "message," and channel their disapproval in much more productive means, but that isn't the case...not even in the slightest.

The amount unfavorable responses is likely due to nothing more than Xbox being something people don't like. It's like with many things - religion, politics, music, etc. For many people, xbox sucks simply because they don't like it, for whatever reason or none at all, and they want people to know that they think it sucks. It has little to do with "noble actions" or "fighting the man."

PositiveEmotions4706d ago

Im not surprised at all that this happened oh well it cant be helped.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA63d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY63d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay62d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos62d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7263d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY63d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator62d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum62d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z62d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad63d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga63d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot62d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose63d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE63d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername62d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy63d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde63d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8663d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8663d ago (Edited 63d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole63d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300063d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot63d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle63d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7763d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments