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Will inferior graphics matter for Xbox One?

The Xbox One does not have the graphical might of the PlayStation 4 according to all reports. No one is denying it, not even Microsoft.

From a raw numbers view point the PS4 has more than insignificant advantage. This takes me back to six-seven years ago and to the question, will it matter?

no_more_heroes4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Maybe, maybe not. So long as the games are good, it doesn't matter to me either way.

cl19834677d ago

Only to trolling fanboys will this matter.

BadboyCivic4677d ago

When they say inferior, how much of a difference are we talking about. I'm sure the PC guys may be able to answer this

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34677d ago

I wonder what graphics they're talking about. The games that haven't been made yet? Ryse is arguably the best looking game coming out.

Tony-A4677d ago

@WrAiTh

Arguably is the right word.

Ryse looks like nothing spectacular in both graphical capability and gameplay. On the XBO alone, the next Forza looks much better than that. Across the board, I'd go as far as to say that the latest God of War looks better than Ryse.

starchild4677d ago

Why do some console gamers care so much about graphics? Compared to PC both consoles are going to be far behind. Is it really going to matter if one is slightly less behind?

JokesOnYou4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

huh? I havent seen any "inferior graphics" yet. X1 exclusives hold their own and Ryse if anything looks to have the edge graphically. I have no doubt ps4 will have some future graphic powerhouses but just like this gen X1 will more than hold its own, and both will have some exclusive games that leave you wondering what the hell the dev was doing with all the development time? Some stinkers some winners the quality of graphics and performance will be developer driven. Again because its all about the resources put in to eeke out all the power both have plenty for gamers who don't run spec tests and count pixels, gamers who like great looking and great playing games will be very happy, if a few more pixels are top priority then a high end pc is what they should have/be buying.

georgeenoob4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Dejavu all over again. Except this time, instead of Blu Ray vs DVD, it's ddr5 vs ddr3 or the amount of RAM. Hilarious.

Have fun believing devs are going to use more than 200mg of RAM (most likely none) than the X1, let alone 3GB+ of RAM or whatever you Sony fanboys are believing in your fantasy lands.

adorie4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

What about people that genuinely opt for better graphics? Is there something wrong with that?

Because people opting for the best graphics, can also skip both consoles altogether and go PC. if that suits them.

You don't have to be a troll to display a preference.

Sevir4677d ago

It will be hard to tell at launch for the multiplatform games, It'll come down to exclusives, So far most developers have games being shown for the PS4 version, and others using PC to show like Dice, CDP Red and Bethesda, while Ubisoft, Warner Brothers, and Square have shown off PS4 footage.

We'll wait for the inevitable comparisons at launch but i suspect at launch the differences will be small between as developers wrap their head around each platforms architect.

Exclusives however will tell the tale better and so far Sony's titles are visually stunning and look better compared to the best Looking Xbox One title which is Ryse

No_Limit4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Great, another anti-MS submission by another Sony fan, NatureOfLogic.

If MariaHelFutura isn't enough, we have others that are joining the cause to spread nonsense.

Forza 5, Killer Instinct are the only 2 next gen games thus far that are displaying 1080p and 60fps.

Dead Rising has the most on-screen A.I zombies ever displayed on screen, running at 1080p.

Ryse is the best looking console exclusive shown thus far.

N4G and troll bait articles, you gotta love it.

JsonHenry4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

The difference won't be much. Not with the ability for the X1 to use things that save on system resources like the move engines, the EDRAM, and hardware tiling.

But I think later in the life of the console the PS4 will hold a clear, if not extremely ahead, advantage over the X1.

Bigpappy4677d ago

What Jokes said is exactly what came to my thoughts. What inferior Graphic? I am yet to see any evidence that this even exist.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34677d ago

Lol, sev is smoking somehing too...

Skips4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Everybody here keeps saying Xbox One exclusives hold their own against PS4 exclusives without actually posting any proof or screenshots. lol

And what Tony-A said, Ryse is one of Xbox One's best looking exclusives all while not really looking much better than GOW Ascension...

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

"Killer Instinct are the only 2 next gen games thus far that are displaying 1080p and 60fps."

Don't understand why people keep on bringing up Killer Instinct being 1080p and 60fps when it doesn't even look as good as some current gen games. lol Isn't this something that GT5 pulled off on PS3?

"Dead Rising has the most on-screen A.I zombies ever displayed on screen, running at 1080p."

It's that supposed to be impressive??? Those "A.I" lol are literally exact replicas of retarded shambling NPC's that literally do not do ANYTHING on screen but limp towards you when you get close. -_- PS4 could easily run that game and probably run it better. lol

And again, for other examples...

DR3 and Infamous SS comparisons:
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

or Ryse and Infamous SS:
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

Forget about Killzone SF and Titanfall comparisons. lol

It's understandable that these games don't look nearly as impressive as the exclusives they're being compared to, considering they were scrapped 360 games. But you'd have to be straight up delusional if you think they look better...

Honestly, Forza 5 is the only GREAT looking next gen exclusive on Xbox One that actually LOOKS next gen...

tokugawa4677d ago

lol @ skips. those infamous screens are bullshots. go and look at it on youtube.

inferior graphics..?? sorry but i have to agree with the xbo crowd. ryse and forza > all launch titles

Skips4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

^^^

You seriously call them bullshots??? LMFAO!!! You need some glasses buddy.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Watch in 1080p XD, Hell, you do know Youtube vids don't do EITHER games justice right. -___-

I guess Ryse's screens are also "Bullshots" and it actually looks even worse in person considering BOTH THE INFAMOUS AND RYSE SHOTS ARE TAKEN FROM THE EXACT SAME SITE... LMFAO!!!

"inferior graphics..?? "

Yup, put on some glasses kiddo. You'll eventually see it....

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thetruthx14677d ago

Ryse is the best looking game next gen so far and it's made by an "inferior graphics" Dead Rising 3, Forza, and Quantum Break look great too.

Maybe the updated graphics driver, direct x 11.2 or Microsoft having better tools has something to do with this ;)

callahan094677d ago

Everybody touting Ryse as the best looking next gen game is seriously sleeping on Infamous Second Son. That game is flat-out gorgeous, and it's a seamless open world with destructible environments. Even Digital Foundry, everybody's favorite source for saying the only native 1080p60 next-gen games are on Xbox One, basically flat-out said that Infamous is the best-looking, most CGI-like and impressive next-gen game.

illtownNJONE4677d ago

lies.....Ive read both articles drone

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hollabox4677d ago

I'm saying no. The X1 and PS4 are closer together than the PS3 and X360. X360 GPU almost twice as fast, while the PS3 CPU was three times thee performance of the X360. Final specs has not been released yet but in terms of performance difference is not even a third. Sony could be lying like they did with PS3 saying it has 2 TFLOPS performance which would make it more powerful than the PS4 going strictly off FLOPS.

I would still like to see how Sony figured out the PS3 TFLOPs performance since the desktop version can only do 165-200 GFLOPs. By all account the PS3 is using an count down version of that chip.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Sony doesn't lie like Microsoft.

Cmk01214677d ago

Yeh because they talked up play station home as legendary and it ultimately became a massive flop... Nope Sony is perfect , hey what are you doing commenting on here mark cernys left teat needs suckled ! Both complained lie or misjudge things.MSmatleting has been poor but the super villain talk needs to
Go

hollabox4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

Really? What about the FMV Kill Zone 2 tech demo supposedly rendered in real time? Or Wipe Out FMV cut scenes being passed for real time gameplay on the PS1. Again I will like to see how they figured 2TFLOP for the PS3 when its GPU is slower than the desktop equivalent. If that was true the PS4 is in trouble if it can't outperform the PS3.

I doubt Sony would pull an Nintendo and release a product inferior or slightly superior to current gen consoles. That's why I call BS on the PS3 specs, I know it was good, I own one, but not what Sony initially claimed it would be.

So yeah I can question the legitimacy of the PS4 specs given Sony track record. 75 Million polygons per second on the PS2 when its memory can't store more than 35 million polygons at ounce. Or the ridiculous PS1 claims of 1.5 million polygons per second only later to find out it was closer to 150-180,000.

Not trying to start a fantard debate but Sony track record is kinda shaky when it comes to their hardware. And yes I have owned every Sony home consoles, and have the PS4 on pre order. Yes I have owned every MS home consoles and will buy the X1 after Christmas. I owned every Nintendo consoles up until the Wii, couldn't play that on my HDTVs.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4677d ago

@Hollabox.... you should check your pms. ;)

n4rc4677d ago

Pretty sure Sony still doesn't officially admit to losing millions of customers data..

Or that they reportedly owe millions in back taxes in Australia..

I don't hate Sony like people love to hate ms.. But cmon man.. Sony isn't gods gift to the world.. They screw up just like any corporation..

Thinking Sony has never or will never lie is pretty naive

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McScroggz4677d ago

What? The Xbox 360 and PS3 are pretty comparable. The 360 has the more powerful GPU while the PS3 has the more powerful CPU and the Cell architecture. However, because Cell is so difficult to program for and the PS3's split RAM, overall both platforms nearly have parity.

The PS4 is, in just about every, way more powerful. For all we know every part of the PS4 might be a little more powerful, but we won't know until they both release. Plus, the PS4's memory is unified and the console is generally a lot easier to program for.

I'm not saying the difference in power between the Xbox One and PS4 is going to be like the Xbox and PS2, but it's absolutely a bigger difference than the PS3/Xbox 360.

MRMagoo1234677d ago

"I'm saying no. The X1 and PS4 are closer together than the PS3 and X360" you know how wrong you are here ? the ps4 has a much larger hardware gap to the xbone than the ps3 had to the 360, much much larger gap, the 360 had the better gpu and better ram config and the ps3 had the better cpu this time around the ps4 has better everything, anyone thinking its less than this gen are delusional.

hollabox4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

We don't know both consoles final CPU specs yet. Only thing announced is 8 core CPU, every thing else are rumors just like the 7 GBs of ram available to developers when new rumors have it closer to 5-6 GBs. In terms of pure performance from what has been released 1.3 compared to 1.8 is not an huge gap.

A huge gap would be 1.3 compared to 5.2 TFLOPS or 4 times faster. Its not even 50 percent faster while the claimed PS3 specs is about 6 times the performance of the X360 and great than the PS4 if you believe Sony information. Its pretty simple to me, if Sony claims the PS3 had 6 times the performance of the X360 and PS4 is only about a third faster than the XB1. This information would make my statement true the X1 and Ps4 are closer in power than the PS3 and X360.

The only gaps I see is the memory bandwidth being huge. About 2.5 times the bandwidth not counting XB1 ESRAM. Oh almost forgot, PS4 fill rate is almost twice as fast but its still a rumor just like the PS3 GPU fill rate being 3 times that of the X360.

I will give it to Sony, they are the masters of hype. Sony delivers on most of it, but when it comes down to it allot of what Sony say is complete BS.

black0o4677d ago

ps3 has so many problems that didnt help sony other wise it'd been a overkill this gen

the next gen is the x1 with the problems with less power .. i get the pic right

Tdjones684677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

hollabox, you have no idea what you are talking about.
the 360 in terms of gflops is a little more powerful. but to look at the tech gap from the ps4 to the xbox one, you need to take the xbox one, and add two 360's. So please research before you post. the performance gap in the xboxone is terrible compared to ps4.

Xbox 360 - 240Gflops
PS3 -------- 228Gflops
Xbox One - 1.3Tflops (with 53Mhz increase)
PS4 -------- 1.84Tflops

hollabox4677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

What? You know I'm going off Sony's PS3 press release specs compared to what people say it is now. This is only to show how Sony overhypes their products specs only to find out later its not nearly as powerful as Sony claims. Posted links below with the 1.8 GFLOPS claim on the GPU so yes I have done my research no need for silly comments. And yes based on the numbers Sony claims with the PS3 performance my statement is still true about the PS4 and XB1 being closer in performance than the PS3 and X360. With that said I now take Sony specs with an grain of salt which in my opinion the systems specs might be even closer than whats been reported.

When Sony release the PS3 everybody including myself pointed to the PS3 2TFLOP performance compared to the X360 310-355 GFLOPS performance. Now that the PS4 is coming out and suddenly the PS3 specs are being downgraded which is why I'm skeptical of the PS4 specs. You say the PS3 GPU is 228 GLOPS, I see another link that says it's 400 GFLOPS, my estimation based on the desktop version its between 130-200 GLOPS.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://playstation.about.co...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

PS3 GPU FLOPS downgrade link

http://ps4daily.com/2013/02...

Tdjones684677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

@hollabox
they were wrong with the ps3. i agree. but if you are mr tech guru as your research claims, you would look at actual pcs and see the truth. they are basically using a glorified Radeon HD 7850 graphics card. maybe they have over hyped in the past. BUT- these specs along with the actual hardware they are using actually makes sense this time around. if you have done your research which you have claimed, then you would realize that these specs would point towards actual performance markings.

Another problem that i have with all this bs that you are talking about is how youre making sony the bad guy. even though m$ is trying to say that "cloud computing will make the xboxone 3 times as powerful" hollabox, that is not being a "master of hype"? give me a break.

hollabox4677d ago

Tdjones68

Sony was wrong with the PS3, the PS2, and the PS1 regarding actually performance. I don't see them being any different with the PS4. 7 years from now you will probably see another spec downgrade when the PS5 is ready. Not heard one multiple platform developers come out and say the PS4 has an huge performance advantage, instead they say PS4 and XB1 are similar. Which is the whole point of my first post.

I don't see a huge difference besides N4G users trying to convince people 30 percent on paper performance huge. Like I said Sony is the master of hype, they even silently swept under the rug their same DRM policies as the XB1 after the 180. And like MS Sony has also claimed increase performance from cloud computing which at some point in time will require and always on internet connection. The same as MS before the 180, its just Sony has better PR people than the idiots at MS. Any who time for work.

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kenmid4677d ago

Another one of the articles??

Saddam_hussein4677d ago

Wasn't this already an article today??

I really hope trolls and fanboys are a dying breed. It's so pointless..

Lol according to all the reports...

All my reports say the graphics look damn good on both systems. Even PROVEN.developers say the same thing.

Supermax4677d ago

N4g works hard for those fanboys.

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FPSRUSSIA33d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY33d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay33d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos33d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7233d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY33d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator33d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

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Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z33d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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SimpleDad34d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga34d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot33d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose34d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE34d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername33d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy34d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde34d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8634d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8634d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole34d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300034d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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-Foxtrot34d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle34d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7734d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments