for a ps3 only owner charlie, you seem to know sooo much! i've not heard of any faulty dvd drives, and believe me, i know alot of people who have 360s and play them often. you sony sheep seem to know everything that's bad about the competition. i'll be getting a ps3 for resistance2, the problematic ps1s and ps2s i had have not stopped me picking one up sooner, i'm just waiting for resistance2.

"Company's like Microsoft are massive with huge Research and development facilities.if they stumble on to something that believe will move the game on for them,then no harm done."

So why didn't they put any of that R&D into the current X360's instead of releasing it pre-maturely into the hands of consumers, resulting the loss of millions, and possibly billions of dollars? Also the headaches of millions of gamers around the world who just wants to play a video game without they're console dying on them?

And what's the gaurantee the new chip will even help the situation? Wasn't the same said about the magical Falcon?

Sometimes, it's not a matter of how bad a product is. It's a matter of how stupid the consumer is who keeps on supporting arguements for a defective product as if you work for the company themself. Microsoft doesn't write you a paycheck to defend their bad product. If you truely support the product that you claim is the best in the industry, then slap a lawsuit at microsoft for them to fix the problem, and not gloat about software sales, when obviously it has bad hardware.

i am one of the lucky few that have enjoyed my 360 for 2 years and 4 months without a problem.I wish others had the same luck that i have had but unfortunately the console was poorly designed.

One thing is that they seem to be addressing the issue sloooowly but they are addressing it.As for cooling,the falcon equipped 360's have a different heat sink to the original versions and the Jasper will have a bigger one as well.

i don't know were you got you info about the faulty disk drives happening recently.But i know that the new Bosh disk drives that were implemented last year when the Elite was lunched don't have a problem and they are less noisy than the orginal that i posess.

One thing is that my 360 sounds like a boeing 747 when playing games,like a rally car when playing demo,s or just on the marketplace dashboard but WHISPER quiet while watching DVD's.Hard to believe but it is true.I think i am one lucky 360 owner.

@le killer: "for a ps3 only owner"? that is odd I don't even have one and I didn't even mention it in my post in fact I only have a 360...like it shows in my profile...but you are one for those blind fanboys in denial doing the usual damage control over FACTS so why do I even bother with you? ...sigh

@green: I am aware of the extra heat sinks I was talking about the fans you could even do a test open a 360 let it heat for a while open with the mobo exposed and you will notice that for some bizarre reason the heat keeps building and building up inside and the fans don't seem to be pulling a significant amount of heat outside even when they seem to be working at max and most of it by the design of the "wind" or ventilation tunnel is directed at the CPU and not the problematic GPU thankfully there is a modd to fix this by placing a price of plastic of cardboard in the wind tunnel, regarding the faulty DVD drives that is also pretty new to me I had read about very isolated case in the past but very few to matter but recently (past 6 months) ive been reading people comment more and more about this and it seem MS knows too cuz last time I called MS for my 3rd 360 I was explicitly told like 3 times as soon as I mention a "faulty 360" if it was sure it was a RROD alone of something was wrong with another part like the "DVD drive" (that I bet it was for the RROD only covering warranty -_-) also some of the people I know that modd 360s have told me people have come to them with 360s with defective DVD drives a thing they didn't had before...as far as people have commented the main problem of the "faulty" DVD drive is either ultra fast wear and tear or simply the plastic piece that makes the DVD pop open some of those can easily be fixed other need a complete DVD drive replacement I juts hope that doesn't happen to my 360 T.T

I bought two on launch day. A core and a premium. And I have never had any problem out of either of them. I feel sorry for all those guys that had a problem though. : (

sorry mate, it appears i was wrong about you bud and i apologise! blind i am not, i know a few people who've had rrod, and there is clearly a design flaw. personally, i've a 360 for over 2 years without a problem. but that's neither here nor there! i assumed you were a dirt slinger that does'nt even own, or never will own a 360. and therefore not really entitled to say anything! anyway, sorry once again mate!

The Sony sheepeople are trying to spread more FUD. While I agree the original motherboards were garbage I've had one since launch with no problems. My friend has the original Elite mobo and never had a problem.

RROD is a huge problem but its only on old units. Falcon fixed it already and Jasper will be even better and cheaper.

Sony fans seem so preoccupied with dogging the 360 why not complain to Sony so you can have Home they promised you March last year or in game voice chat? Oh thats right Sony never does anything wrong...

that's the kind of attitude I wish more people here had, owning up to a mistake. bubbles for you.

Everyone that has had problems with is console isn't going to be getting a free redesigned 360 are they? No, to get one they'll either be very lucky or they'll have to buy an upgrade.

All this behavior does is enforce the bad practices of selling defective hardware. Why should costumers be forced to pay for manufactured mistakes. Consider that even if a customer gets free repaires or replacements things still come up short.

My experience isn't all pleasurable, if dealing with a product that has a tendency of failure I want results. Telling people Yes, a new 360 is comming soon is stonewalling.

The emotional impact caused to some fans of the product has irreparablely tarnished Microsoft's reputation. Telling people just buy a new one does absolutely nothing for the customers. Most have lost respect by this time, and asking for more money only serves to farther escalate these negative emotions.

Money should speak for the customers, because in the interest of the gaming community 3 strikes mean your out. I know one things for certain, my money isn't going to a player who continually drops the ball.

I'm not hitting disagree because I understand your opinion, fares well with hardcore fans of the 360, My opinion differs however, and I draw these conclusions from my personal experiences.

Seriously, I can't imagine people falling for this upgrade or "to fix it" mentality. My money goes into things I believe will preform within satisfaction. Anything less and I don't care. Cheap imitated gimmicks only serve to harm innovation and that's exactly what I see here.

-Sarick

I had a modded(flashed bios) 360 that went RROD. I got it back in 6 days and it has worked flawlessly since then. They gave me the Benq drive(which is more quiet and loads extremely fast) and a new motherboard.

I also got a certificate that said that they had performed several durability tests on it just to check that it won't RROD again. Other than that they gave me 1 month Live for free.

I really can't complain about the service. I mean they fixed it even though the 360 was tampered with. They could have just returned it without fixing it and ban me from Live or something.

True consumer mentality, man. I got my first Xbox 360 a few months ago(Elite) and so far so good, but in accordance with what you said, I will not buy a 2nd if this RROD on me. I'll go through the painstaking process of sending it to them for a fix, and spend a month enjoying whatever PS3 hit is out at the time.

That B.S aside, I'm confident that my Xbox product will last awhile..
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Wow It sound like you PISS3 fanboys are scared. Don`t worry you will still be able to watch your blue ray movies.

Do you know how many people I have heard complain about the BD tray on the POS3? There are defects with every electronic device. Who really cares if MS fixes the RROD issue or not. I have a warranty and if my 360 blows up, I go to Target and "buy" a new one until repair is done. I have only lost one console. It's no big deal. We just keep coming back and there's nothing you can do about it.