But they would still not have the Sony exclusive games I enjoy as a PS gamer. I play pc games too but console gaming is just as fun.

If you're a low-end PC gamer, odds are that you're not a super hardcore PC guy. Making the switch to PS4 will be easy for these people. These people are the ones that don't upgrade their GPU or CPU, ever. They're the ones who got a PC for their birthday/christmas a few years ago and it just happens to play games.(barely)

For a decent mobo that supports am3+ ur looking at $120. For 8gb ddr3 ram ur lookin at $60. For just a quad core phenom its aprox $60. For a 750 watt PSU approx $80. Ane a radeon 5850 lets say is another $60. Now that pc includes no wifi no blutooth no blu-ray drive and NO case which we can add another $70 for the case. Now ur trying to tell me that pc i just built is as good as a ps4 lol dream on.

If you already own a low end budget pc then your better of getting a 400 dollar gpu....unless you want more exclusives

@B-radical, tell me... Do you expect someone with a low-medium end laptop that happens to play games, to be able to upgrade its GPU? Or, do you expect someone who happens to own a decent desktop PC to upgrade their GPU when odds are, they don't even know what a "GPU" is?

The point of this entire story, is that casual gamers who play games every now and then on their computers, are better off buying a console (the PS4 in this case) because it's a much easier and inexpensive choice than to upgrade their PC.

It's not console gamers pitting them up against PCs, its the other way around.

It doesn't matter that PCs can go beyond 1080p, that takes too much power and no reasonably priced rig will be able to game at those resolutions.

@gravelord That is such a lie! In the current gen, I am not going to lie, PC gamers were picking on you guys a bit. I would see it and they would take advantage of the massive difference. However, console gamers rose up as soon as next gen was revealed and were talking about how thier "optimization" would smash PC graphics and all that good stuff but it was justified. I mean PC gamers did it first, right? Well, then we hear the term "high-end pc". You guys forget about SSDs. You guys forget about resolutions beyond 1080p. You guys also forget about 120hz monitors. 60 fps is old school in the world of PC gamers.

Sure, playing at that resolution can be a tad expensive but that is a high end pc. SSDs in RAID 0 and liquid cooled pc parts.

Then console gamers will tell you "compare to a 400 dollar pc". I call bullshit. Sony is selling the consoles at a loss assuming that you will make up the real cost buying games. What is the loss? I am not sure but it's there. PC parts are not sold at a loss. They are sold as is. However, instead of buying new games...my entire steam library is still compatible :)

@nova

My PS3 library is also compatible since I keep my old HW. If you were to use that argument you would have to take the money people get from selling their PS3 into account. It wouldn't be a 400 dollar piece of HW anymore. If you say 400 dollars then you can't use the b/c as an excuse against PS4 right?

@iamnsuperman

But that is what I said

s8anicslayer,

I think there is a difference in what he said and what you said. Basically the way he said it implies that it'd be a cheap upgrade as opposed to the PS4 just being a low end PC. So, it isn't an alternative to a low end PC. He says that it'd be good option for the people who currently have low end PCs.

Nice blog on the $60 price tag for video games.

No, that's not what he's saying. I hate to break it to you guys but neither ps4 or xbox-one will have high end pc graphics. At least not right now. PCs will always be two steps ahead.

Sure it won't be high end graphics, but it will be better than what they currently have. I think that's what he's saying.

He did not say it's a great option for mid or high end pc owners

Most things in physx you can do without it.

I mean the Mafia Physx was lol tbh.

Yeah, but the Nvidia PhysX is not going to be available on the PS4 either. It's an extra feature for those with Nvidida graphics cards.

From what I've seen so far, it runs pretty smoth on the Switch 2.

That is true, so there should be no problems like you said, unless someone has messed-up really badly.

Exactly. And nope, it was never a P2W title, and from what I understand, it will remain that way as well.