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John Carmack talks about Wolfenstein, cannot comment on Doom 4's development, prefers Intel+Nvidia

DSOGaming writes: "During his QuakeCon 2013 keynote, John Carmack revealed some interesting information about the ID Tech 5 version that will be powering the new Wolfenstein title. According to Carmack, id Software is currently trying to un-optimize and clean up the core code of the engine as Wolfenstein is a cross-platform title."

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NYC_Gamer4593d ago

That's my combo[Intel&Nvidia]better performance

kevnb4593d ago

amd video cards still have poor support for many games, and intel processors are just better. You can go amd, but you will have more messing around to do with drivers and/or cpu cooling.

LAWSON724593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

I dont understand this messing around with drivers idea, because I have had zero issues that I needed to fix myself over almost a year and a half (hd 7950 and 6850). AMD makes great GPUs that usually offer alot more for the money. I do agree though Intel is just better than AMD when it comes to CPUs

fossilfern4593d ago

What messing around? I have been using AMD for years even before AMD bought ATi. Don't start spreading some fanboy flame bait

Bobbo444593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

Driver issues aside, AMD really isn't a cheaper alternative anymore. Look at benchmarks. The 7970 performs similar to a 670, and they're very similar price ranges ( http://www.videocardbenchma... ), with the Nvidia card actually being a little bit cheaper and a little better performance. You may say that game performance is better on a 7970 than a 670, but it clearly depends on the game with some games performing better on different cards. Point is, in raw performance they're similar, and similar in price. Not to mention AMD is falling pretty far behind in performance. They have nothing that comes close to the performance of a Titan or 780. The 7990 is a joke to compare to the Titan or 780. You can't compare dual GPU cards to a single one. I've had my fair share of experiences with multi GPU setups, and will never go there again.

fossilfern4593d ago

Bobbo

Are you seriously using some sort of synthetic benchmark comparison? I wouldn't trust them for any GPU. And considering that the 7 series from AMD is about 2 years old now and still maintains a high position isn't something to sniff at.

This driver rubbish in relation to AMDs drivers not being good is something I havnt experienced so Maybe I'm lucky. And nvidia haunt had perfect drivers either so it goes both ways.

Bobbo444593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

Fossilferm

Yes, I'm obviously using a synthetic benchmark comparison, like I said, it gives a comparison of raw power. Why wouldn't you trust a benchmark? How can you make the argument that the 7000 series is an older card? I compared the 7970 to a 670, they released within a few months of each other. And my comment about Nvidia having better performance with a 780/Titan than AMD is no less valid because AMD won't release a new line of cards. If you would like a comparison of game performance, well here is one of Battlefield 3 etc. performance ( http://www.hardocp.com/arti... The 670 is very similar in performance to the 7970, with each of them pulling slightly ahead in different scenarios, like I said. I used to be a huge AMD fan until my last build when I realized you really weren't saving anything anymore (I'm just talking the GPU department, comparison of AMD to Intel is a joke).

And you see what I did there, I gave at least some form of proof of my claims.

Oh, and I imagine people's complaints about AMD drivers are probably more about higher end configurations that demand more from drivers, like Crossfire, Eyefinity, etc. I've tried both Crossfire and SLI setups, and SLI works drastically better in comparison. Although AMD is working on it, I think they just released a frame latency tool of some sort.

fossilfern4592d ago (Edited 4592d ago )

I'm No fanboy if that's what your thinking. I was actually contemplating going nvidia and getting a 760 but will be waiting for the new series of GPU from AMD since I had some bad run ins with nvidia gpus.

It goes back and forth between the GPU crown and it depends on the game too some things AMD do well and nvidia do well in others.

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Megaton4593d ago

I run Intel + AMD, but I've got not delusions about which is better between Nvidia and AMD. They just cost a lot more, and suck up a lot more power. I'd definitely go with Nvidia for my GPU if I had the money to burn.

sinjonezp4593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

I can't agree more. Nvidia support is great. Intel cards, while usually priced more, gives you significantly better performance. I understand that AMD gfx cards are priced lower, their driver support is bad. Nvidia gives consumers new drivers at least once a month or when a triple A title comes out. Additionally providing sli profile upgrades. Every CPU I build for costumers I always tell them Intel and nvidia.

ATi_Elite4592d ago

I have:

Intel + AMD and Intel + Nvidia. I really see NO difference as they both perform GREAT! Each GPU has it's up n downs but AMD GPU's are cheaper so it wins.

I don't want to here any CRAP about AMD Drivers cause they have been good for years and AMD Drivers have NEVER EVER burned up a GPU or set your house on fire like Nvidia Driver 196.75 and 320.18 have done!

Funny how Nvidia Fanboys NEVER seem to remember 196.75 burning up GPU's, PC's, and burning down houses while they BRAG about Nvidia Drivers.

Nvidia Driver 320.18 has also FRIED a lot of GPU's too but luckily no burned houses.

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john24593d ago

Man, those QuakeCon keynotes are simply a joy. Say what you want about Carmack (and the fact that he f'ed up PC gamers) but it's a joy listening to him, his opinions and his ideas

opinska4593d ago

How did he f'ed up PC games? Rage was a sweet game, with a great engine. Wolfestain was alright too.. Doom 3 was a master piece.

john24593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

RAGE had a lot of issues when it was launched on the PC. Also the fact that this version was held back by the console versions was something that pissed off a lot of PC gamers

Vladplaya4593d ago

Doom 3 was NOT a master piece, not even by long shot. It failed by TRYING to be a scary game, instead of been actual Doom game. It failed miserably at been scary, then at everything else. Boring ass narrow corridor shooter in the dark.

aliengmr4592d ago

Rage was a glorified tech demo that showcased tech that was pretty meh.

Coach_McGuirk4593d ago

Intel & Nvidia for quality, AMD for price/performance. Both are excellent and we should consider ourselves lucky to have the option.

Plagasx4593d ago (Edited 4593d ago )

Sighs...no Doom 4...again.

palaeomerus4592d ago

Yeah, I admit that I am starting to worry. And it seems like such a no-brainer too. Just make a really fast, twitchy game where you kill lots and lots of 'dumb as hell demons' and dead people, that pop out of monster closets, with crazy weapons with lots of smoke, fire, blood, and bones in it. Maybe have some destructible scenery and vehicles here and there to spice things up. Have some key cards and levels you can wander around in.

Sometimes looking backwards is the way forward.

JBernardo4593d ago

AMD's cpus are the best in terms of price/performance. Just look at the FX8320's price... It went for about £105 yesterday on Amazon.co.uk... Can't beat that.

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Fanatical's Explosive bundle is now live and lets you save big on 16 Steam Deck-friendly games

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Wolfenstein: The New Order Is The Last Of Its Kind

Wolfenstein: The New Order turns ten years old today, so we decided to play it again and discovered just how much of an extinct kind of game it is.

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SovereignSnaKe646d ago

It's an outstanding game and so was The Old Blood. Also a lost era of gaming. Interesting, I received a physical copy of The Old Blood 9 years ago today from Poland. It was digital only in North America initially upon release so I had to import.

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Wolfenstein: The New Order - A Highly Rated FPS That Hasn't Stood the Test of Time

Wolfenstein: The New Order launched 10 years ago today, but can it stand up to the modern FPS titles it inspired?

Seth_hun646d ago

I disagree. Its still a fantastic game, with very good gunplay and a surprisingly loveable cast of characters and a good story trough many different and interesting setpieces

hiawa23646d ago (Edited 646d ago )

All The New Order needs for my tastes is a this gen enhancement patch.

ChasterMies646d ago

I played New Order a couple of years after launch and I give it an 8/10. The shooter holds up because it is focused on being a good shooter. There is no crafting, no RPG elements, no open world find the question mark Weapons are fun. Enemies are fun. Levels offer a nice mix of stealth and shooting. You get to be the predator; this isn’t a game about fending off waves of enemies while a robot companion unlocks a door. Most importantly, New Order is the last of a dying breed of single player shooters.

Skuletor646d ago

Singleplayer shooters are still getting released every year, just look up "boomer shooters" and you'll find an an abundance of them. AAA fps campaigns, not so much.

Last year had Trepang2, RoboCop: Rogue City, Turbo Overkill, Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun, Dread Templar, Sprawl and more

DustMan646d ago

The games you mentioned are not from AAA developers. Wolfenstein likely had a budget that was probably as big as all those games you mentioned combined. I'm not knocking the new wave of retro shooters. I absolutely love them (I think some get much higher review scores than they deserve though). I just really wouldn't describe Wolfenstein as purely a boomer shooter based on the relatively cohesive story, with cut scenes and is fully voice acted. Full set piece moments.

AA development seems to be focused keeping the single player solo experience alive. But the big developers are only concerned about the MTX and milking players who enjoy multiplayer.

ChasterMies645d ago (Edited 645d ago )

The age of AA shooters. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. I like less expense, shorter games.

Abear21646d ago

Weird all the Wolfenstein articles.

Can you guess what will be announced at Xbox showcase?

DefenderOfDoom2646d ago

What Machine Games did with Wolfenstein franchise is awesome. The game play definitely to me , is still very fun to play !!!

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