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Xbox One's ability to play in-development code has Minecraft-esque implications for gamers

Engadget: "Beyond benefitting indie devs, Whitten spoke to the implications of retail consoles running in-progress code could have on gamers."

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GraveLord4676d ago

Yay! We get to get broken games!

The current PC setup of betas is already bad enough.

Gazondaily4675d ago

Proof that you can't please everyone =(

HammadTheBeast4675d ago

I hope you guys realize this is translated as : Open Betas.

lastofgen4675d ago

Lol, always something to complain about..

GraveLord4675d ago

Don't get me wrong, as long as they are free I have no problem with "betas" or whatever people want to call it.

deadfrag4675d ago (Edited 4675d ago )

Actually betas like the ones on Steam were you get to buy a game in development and get directly in the beta its the best;help fixing bugs and give dev ideas its the best way to build solid and enjoyable experiencies!

cyguration4675d ago

Yes, I agree.

The only reason I haven't bought into any early-access games is because I don't have time to get involved with the community. But I do plan to do so at some point.

I like that Steam lets devs and gamers have a direct connection like that. It's such a great feature. I sure hope Microsoft doesn't screw it up on the Xbox One.

HammadTheBeast4675d ago

Because WarZ worked out so well.

n4rc4675d ago

Gotta agree with that..

Hell.. Counter-strike was in beta for years before it went retail.. And it was arguably one of the best and most popular online games ever made..

Making it easier to hold public betas is more then welcome.. Rather then the release and patch until profits dry up method of game development we have now.

GameCents4675d ago

Your tears, so bitter, so salty, and yet...so sweet. Keep em coming.

GraveLord4675d ago

Just my opinion. If you don't like it you can just silently hit disagree and bubble me down like everyone else. I won't lose any sleep.

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deadfrag4675d ago (Edited 4675d ago )

Wow Microsoft is doing a favor to indies and hackers by making every Xboxone able to work like a developement kit and run developement code!Actually this new generation with x86 architecture will induce more piracy than ever.

ape0074675d ago

nice twist

clap clap clap

Hufandpuf4675d ago

I really hope MS has some restrictions on this because Hackers will have a field day if used improperly.

just_looken4675d ago

exactly its bad enough there using a already exposed windows server 2008 os aka windows 8 but now there consoles can run any code? even if they do put security up it better get updated all the time. But again the 360 was hacked in under a year so xbox one might be the same.

theWB274675d ago

I guess hackers are hackers for a reason since they can get into some pretty nifty encrypted super secret private matters huh? Give a hacker enough time and they can get into virtually anything.

JokesOnYou4675d ago (Edited 4675d ago )

Yeah just don't complain when your $500 console is banned/bricked plus any other expenses involved just so you could try hacking, of course micro is going to have some very high tech detection/security features in place, they did for XNA which this is just an expansion on that platform that was used to create indie games for 360, that had no widespread piracy. So no ever going online for updates, live, purchases, and all the stuff this console was built to take advantage of. Now of course if you are 1 of the very few talented hackers you might have a chance to open it up voiding your warranty and tinkering around without mistakenly breaking anything but if you guys think every kid in his basement is going to be running pirated software on a $500+ console at the risk of 1 flaw turning it into a brick, that just 'aint happening.

MysticStrummer4675d ago

Hackers was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this. Seems like MS is taking a huge chance. We'll see how it works out.

GameCents4675d ago (Edited 4675d ago )

Great for indies was the first thing that I thought of. Then again, my brain is not hardwired to negative spin towards all things Xbox.

MysticStrummer4675d ago

Sorry to bust up your stereotype party, but my brain isn't hardwired for negative XBox spin. That doesn't mean an obvious red flag will be ignored.

I've said Ryse looks like a cool game that I would enjoy if it came to PS4, which it won't, and I said the same about Titanfall.

If PS4 did this I'd say the same thing.

MS is taking a big chance.

Bigpappy4675d ago

Keep in mind that X1 runs 3 OS. It can easily block access to some areas of the system until the game is approved. I am sure they are full aware of what hackers can do.

Rhaigun4675d ago

No one is fully aware of what hackers can do. That's why they get into everything. Just ask the US government about what they thought China could do.

kingPoS4675d ago

Some just love a challenge.

annus4675d ago

"until the game is approved"

That makes zero sense in the development world. You think you need to go through MS to actually run the code you build? They would be getting requests from developers every few minutes to test out a simple snippet of code. There is something huge that MS aren't talking about, I bet there will be a lot of dissapointed indie devs come Gamescon.

Also, a little tip for hacking and software. If it can be built, it can be destroyed. MS can spend billions trying to stop it, but if they want an 'open' console, they aren't going to be able to prevent it for very long.

Mustang300C20124675d ago (Edited 4675d ago )

Exactly. Hmmm 13 years and counting and Xbox Live has not been hacked. For the slow fanboys that think hacking email accounts associated with Gamertags constitutes Live being hacked.

Bigpappy4675d ago

@annus: No. That is not what I an suggesting. What I am getting at, is that they could run software on a similar kernel with the obvious same soft ware with limited access to like a test sever, for example, rather that the real XBL and the real cloud. When it is approved M$ could enable the hidden access. Security can be setup to control developers access. They do this in all large corporations. But this is even easier to manage.

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thehitman4675d ago

I am 99% sure that you will have to buy a license still to make your own games etc.

LackTrue4K4675d ago

yep, and i believe this will be really REALLY expensive.

NegativeCreepWA4675d ago

XNA was $100 a year, that's actually really cheap for dev tools.

JokesOnYou4675d ago

btw as reported earlier Whitten said that it will be a simple process of visiting a website to sign up as a developer to set up your console as a devkit. This means to have this access in the first place they can track who you are, plus I imagine some detailed terms of service dev agreements for future scrutiny involved to ensure you are not hacking...again Im sure a few very smart people might still find work arounds but I dont expect to see most willing to do all that vs the risk.

DonFreezer4675d ago

Why aren;t you saying the same about Sony and self publishing?Are you that delusional?

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CanablisLives4675d ago

Huh, I remember reading somewhere that MS dropped Indie devs a while back on the 360...Guess you cannot believe everything you read on the rags

lgn154675d ago

That's cool but I hope hackers don't fuck this up. Give someone an inch and they'll take an mile.

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Xbox 360 Turns 10; Former Product Officer Marc Whitten On Its Legacy, RRoD & More

The Xbox 360 celebrates its 10th anniversary today, and former chief product officer Marc Whitten talks about its legacy, RRoD & More.

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retrogamer093824d ago

I'm playing through Gears of War 2 right now on XB1. Much, MUCH better game than 1. Excellent set pieces in the campaign and it's much smoother. The gameplay does feel a tad bit dated, though. coalition has to modern it somewhat. They need to make the triggers the sprint buttoms, the cover the convention bumper buttons, make it a tad more cinematic, and a few more changes and they're money. Loving BC so far can't wait for skate 3.

Legion213824d ago

Completely disagree with those controls, that sounds awful. What are you supposed to shoot with if the triggers and bumpers are taken?

donthate3824d ago

Well, with the new button mapping app, he can just set it up any way he wants.... Get the Elite controller and you got paddles too! Best controller I have ever used. :D

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FlexLuger3824d ago

"important enough of a console that both playstation and xbox teams are making the argument that there boxes are the most “xbox 360++”

yup. That was the generation where the X360 really made online gaming a thing. I had mine for over a year before I went online for the first time with a 30 day trial. after that, I couldnt go back. Was like a whole new world of gaming. once upon a time we would have been happy playing 4 player split screen. But after I went online with R6:vegas, gears and eventually halo 3, and forza 2, there was no turning back for me.

To think I considered myself done with gaming back in 2004. I didnt expect the x360 to be such a great console. And playing the first mass effect for the first time was a special moment in gaming, ill never forget. Im amazed that MS did not buy bioware to this day./they certainly had the opportunity.

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FoxyGotGame3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

Aside from the early failure rates...360 is the best product MS ever produced. J Allard & team should've been involved with the X1 architecture/design /

VER1ON3824d ago

Still loving this amazing piece. Truly a legacy for console gaming.

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Pressurecast Episode 18: Ground Zeroes And Super Heroes

inFamous: Second Son and Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes get discussed before we dive into GDC 2014 and Marc Whitten’s departure!

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"It's a Great Time" To Own An Xbox One And It's Only Going To Get Better, Says Outgoing MS Executive

Xbox One functionality revealed so far is just the tip of the iceberg, former executive Marc Whitten says.

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TheLyonKing4433d ago (Edited 4433d ago )

To be fair though I doubt any employee of any company would say.

"Meh maybe hold off buying our product right now it's not a great time to get it."

This is just standard PR talk, I expect Sony and Nintendo versions as well.

Lawboy24433d ago (Edited 4433d ago )

What person who has left sony since ps4 has come out and publicly said something like this

@ choujij

Lol...I'm just stating facts...the funny thing is why can't it be true because it's Microsoft....or would u rather it be the other way ard sony boasting about what's coming to ps4 and Microsoft being silent...everything is evil if Microsoft does it

choujij4433d ago

When it goes without saying, it doesn't need to be said.

Nero13144433d ago (Edited 4433d ago )

You can't be serious

kurruptor4432d ago

Ummm Jack?

"I want to thank the employees, partners and customers for their tireless commitment to the PlayStation brand and, of course, to our fans who have pushed us to new heights of innovation and entertainment over the past two decades," he said. "I leave PlayStation in a position of considerable strength and the future will only get brighter for PlayStation Nation.”

Docknoss4432d ago

Did anyone here see the leaked pictures of the new Dashboard update? Looks Amazing like a Sleek 360 Version. Can't wait for E3, i think all Xbox One owners are in for something Big. With MS minute time slot already filled.

Battlefieldlover4432d ago

Like you did with Abriel?

Lol. Sit down kid.

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Trioptical4432d ago

When would not have been a good time to have an XBOne, less than half a year after launch?

pompombrum4432d ago

Too true. Tbh, the X1 is a great console and I don't regret buying it now however if anyone asked me if I'd recommend getting one, I'd say wait six months. Still so many basic functionality elements missing that needs to be added.

Alan_Shore4432d ago

Bubble+ Sony, Ms, And nintendo are gonna say anything to make people buy there console's.

Truth is now is a great time to own any of those console's It's just that a REP of one of the console companys cant say "they all have there positives and are good to buy right now"

Blaze9294432d ago

"To be fair"

to be fair for what? Why must any good Xbox One news/quotes come with an explanation? This is saaad

UnholyLight4432d ago (Edited 4432d ago )

@TheLyonKing

Whether it's PR speak or not, I think he is right. The Xbox One may have had a rough start, but the future is bright. Xbox 360 showed just how much things can change from the beginning to it's end.

Xbox One will only take that idea to the next step, and the PS4 appears to be following the same "future proofing" concept.

While I agree with you, he still has a great point to make here. Apart from Forza, you haven't seen any of the Microsoft big guns flexing their muscles yet either. Titanfall is not, nor was it ever going to be, the killer game for the Xbox One. Not for one moment did I believe that!

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Gozer4433d ago

The X1 is already very impressive on the functionality front. Its getting better and better with every update. Cant wait for E3, and all the new games. I love my X1.

christocolus4433d ago

Marc says all that has been revealed so far is just a tip of the iceberg so i wonder what else they have cooking up? Maybe the dayz dev has an idea afterall he claimed MS showed him some really amazing stuff recently..lol

LOGICWINS4433d ago

Still haven't played it yet. My cousin has one and he loves it. XB1 will have an amazing future if the price drops by $100 and MS manages to scoop up top tier devs for 1st party titles.

Automatic794432d ago (Edited 4432d ago )

I agree Gozer Xbox One has a good package right out the gate at this point with a great amount of titles that have already come out and what is to come. Xbox fitness is great and the online, services, games and functionality with the TV make this system really feel futuristic.

Note: Can't wait for E3

No_Limit4432d ago (Edited 4432d ago )

I love my XB1 too after gotten it 2 months ago. Amazing system and you can even update the controller..how awesome is that!? Can't wait for the games reveal at E3.

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AngelicIceDiamond4433d ago

"So much for us was around, 'Hey, let's build this architecture that we could rev quickly, that we could add to, that was flexible, that would allow us to do more things and do more things quickly,'" he said.

Improve quickly is correct. They improve the system on what seems to be on the monthly basis now.

I wonder what will be in the summer, or in the big holiday update.

candy_mafia4433d ago (Edited 4433d ago )

Totally what MS should do. Create some buzz 'n optimism for Xbone. There's way too many negative articles about Xbone IMO.

E3 could be super huuge for all the major platforms.

lawgone4432d ago

I agree and disagree. The crowd reaction to XB1 was so immature before and did not represent the majority of customers. I like to see what's announced at things like E3 but I couldn't care less how the crowd there reacts to it. Too many easily manipulated fanboys there.

GribbleGrunger4433d ago

"You can't re-brand a personality by throwing in the word 'outgoing'", says a pragmatic poster.

BX814433d ago

Enjoying the hell out of my XB1 can't wait to see what's up next!

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