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Why the Xbox One Will Win Next Gen

GaminRealm: "Before I get into my explanation, let me just say firstly that I am someone who isn’t particularly fond of Microsoft. I generally like the actual Xbox systems (though not nearly as much as Nintendo’s and Playstation), but as far as the company behind the platforms? Not so much. So this article isn’t coming from some Xbox fanboy or journalist that has been paid-off by Microsoft to spread Xbox One propaganda. My objective prediction is coming purely from logic and educated reasoning."

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WrAiTh Sp3cTr34719d ago

This is flamebait. But if they keep releasing exclusives(new ips included) on a regular then they have a chance.

Trago13374719d ago

The big thing against them is price, they are the highest. and they've announced a bunch of exclusives along with new IP's, so there's that.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34719d ago

I said if they keep releasing those games. I'm on board because XB1 owners will have 15 exclusives within one year of launching, which is excellent and is a reason to be an early adopter. But they need to support the console with games all the way through.

BadboyCivic4719d ago

When they say win? What exactly do they mean? Last time I checked PS4 had better pre-order numbers, a better line up, cheaper price, better specs.

mewhy324719d ago

Well if early pre-orders are any indication then the xbone won't be winning.

The_Con-Sept4719d ago

Swiss army knives can be purchased every day. But the problem is that no one can ever find an every day use for the mf'er.

If the Xbox one is a Swiss army knife then the PS4 is a PS4. Because the PS4 is something unique instead of something that is "Similar."

I watch netflix and sometimes AIV. But I don't have cable so I don't need a cable box. The "tv" market is pretty dead. Most of which have the hopper from dish, or TiVo for Comcast. Who wants to buy another DVR if they already have one? A lot of gamers don't have cable at all. Why would they need it?

I can just see it now... Time Warner putting out premium xb1 channels. "This channel requires an Xbox one to view."

3-4-54719d ago

They will talk companies and corporations into buying these in bulk to use them for "work" for the other features.

They want this thing used not just for gaming.

Don't think it will work though.

PS4 = 100 million sold

XB1 = 60 million sold

Wii U - anywhere from 40-80 million sold.

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HammadTheBeast4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

@beckfire

Here's actual numbers. Despite both selling out, PS4 is 7 on bestsellers, while Xbox One sits at 52.

Very telling.

Next, the 20 games for PS4 first year, are AAA first party games only. They do not include 3rd party or Indies.

Xbox One on the other hand has 15 set for first year.

Gtfo pl0x.

Only reason Xbox had an early advantage on PS3 was the curse of the third console. And now the Xbox One is the "third console".

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loulou4719d ago

i dont really like agreeing with the idiotic fanboys on here. but, i cant honestly see the xbox outselling the ps4 next gen.

unless there are some things that we dont know about.. i would have to agree with the poster aboves sales numbers predictions

MysticStrummer4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

"Are all Sony fans this delusional? THEY BOTH SOLD OUT, NO NUMBERS WERE RELEASED."

There have been several articles stating that there were around 1/3 as many One preorders made available in stores compared to PS4, and Amazon numbers show PS4 with a definite lead even in North America. The various other Amazon sites worldwide show PS4 with an even bigger lead. The One doesn't even appear in the top 100 in some of them.

Psn8004719d ago

Dream , dream , dream on .

hazardman4718d ago

@ Badboy

As a supporter of both consoles, I'd say they both have strong lineups.

user55757084718d ago

all that microsoft has done so far is damage their brand with the anti consumer policies and then the flip flop back to the norm. and word of mouth is a powerful tool as are groups of friends all deciding which console to play their favorite online games on

based on that...unless overall gaming sales are going to skyrocket to new heights then i can't possibly see the xbox one doing better than the xbox 360

so in order for them to win this gen the other consoles have to really screw something up

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MariaHelFutura4719d ago

Microsoft has never outsold a Playstation platform, this generation won't be any different. They had a great circumstance w/ the 360 to do it and didn't, the circumstances this time are very different all in favor of the PS4. It makes some people angry, but it doesn't stop it from being true.

Menech4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Last generation the Playstation 2 brand was a 10x bigger brand than the Xbox. Now the PS3 brand is about a 20 percent bigger brand than the Xbox 360.

I think the PS4 is off to a good start, but lets keep it real here, Sony had a massive advantage with brand loyalty and recognition going in.

If you think that the PlayStation being such a massive force in the PS2 era didn't help Sony then, I guess I won't even argue with you, because I wouldn't be worth it.

It would be like thinking, the next Iphone won't sell more because it's an Iphone.

ape0074719d ago

the xbox 360 did the impossible and ended sony's complete market dominance with ps1 and ps2. FACT

Anon19744719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Actually, that's not a fact. Look up the numbers. People often choose to ignore the fact that the PS2 was selling alongside the PS3 up until recently, unlike the Xbox and Gamecube which were quickly axed. When you consider that Sony was selling not one, but two consoles since the PS3 launched, when you look at the numbers Sony's dominance of the home video game market since the PS3 released never waned.

People like to say, "Oh! The Wii won" due to the number of consoles sold, but the one/two punch of the PS2/PS3 combo absolutely dominated the home console landscape for the past 7 years. The PS2's dominance didn't simply end the moment the PS3 launched. It's still been competing with the Wii and 360 as well.

It's funny to me that so many, when they talk about Sony's "decline" in market dominance choose to ignore that fact that Sony's been selling not one, but two consoles this entire time, and they easily came out on top in the war for the living room worldwide these past 7 years.

And even if Sony had lost their position in the living room, it certainly was due to the rise of the Wii and less so to do with the 3rd place 360 that struggled to find a foothold outside of the US. Even in the US it struggled to maintain positive sales growth until Kinect kicked things into gear. The information is all out there. As a general rule, you might want to verify your "facts" before declaring them as such.

As for the article, the assertion that the Xbox One will "win" somehow because of the US is flawed. The 360 dominated the US and look what happened there. If a console could "win" without the rest of the world, then he might be on to something but obviously that's not the case. He says gamers don't care about what's under the hood and for that, he's right about the average consumer. They care more about price. That shouldn't be overlooked, and is in this ridiculous, nonsensical article. Also, consider that even the market in the US will be 1/3 less right out of the gate due to availability of internet, a requirement for activating your Xbox One console.

This article really seems to be dancing around the real issues. Sloppy at worst, naive at best.

MariaHelFutura4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Fact: The 360 is in last place. Spin it how every you want, but they're still in last spending hundreds of millions more, with media backing them, being cheaper and come out a year earlier. So yes, they did the unthinkable. They have not even sold as much as the PS1 through 2 generations.

Opinion: This generation is gonna be a landslide in favor of the PS4. Why? Because the PS4 is better, cheaper, has the media backing and launches at the same time.

dudeOplenty4719d ago

People also seem to forget that the 360 came out a full year earlier than the PS3. It doesn't seem like they were losing their fans due to any significant negative reasons (other than the price tag) but lost people who chose to jump on a shinier ship (this is a metaphor for a new console!) before waiting for the PS(S)3 Minnow.

But, yes. Despite this later start, the PS3 still managed to sell the 360 on a global level.

The important thing, though, is that this article is flamebait that was most likely created by an individual in a violent bout of mental deterioration caused by syphilis.

Menech4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

@MariaHelFutura

"Fact: The 360 is in last place. Spin it how every you want, but they're still in last spending hundreds of millions more, with media backing them."

I know this is a point of massive passion and concern for yourself, I think you need to hear this. Yes the Xbox 360 finishes this gen in last place, now you can sleep easier at night my friend.

Would you like me to send you the 2nd place trophy for the PS3 in the mail?

MysticStrummer4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

"the xbox 360 did the impossible and ended sony's complete market dominance with ps1 and ps2. FACT"

That's overstating things quite a bit. It wasn't impossible and 360 didn't do it alone.

PS2 dominated big time, which meant fewer sales for both MS and Nintendo. When two of the big three have nowhere to go but up, that means the third's market share is going to drop.

Nintendo had the cheapest option and an explosion of casual gamers who bought the Wii, while MS had a cheaper console compared to PS3 and launched a year earlier. PS3 had the highest price, powerful yet weird hardware that caused developers to struggle early on, and Sony's arrogance on top of all that.

This time, PS4 has the best hardware at a price that's lower than One's and not much higher than WiiU's. There will be no head start for MS, and PS4 will not have the same development woes early on. This time, MS is the arrogant one whose PR bungles are turning people off to their product, not to mention the lingering spectres of RRoD and MS's decision to focus on casual titles for the last few years.

Things are very different this time but just like every gaming generation, the sales and market shares from the previous generation mean next to nothing.

loulou4719d ago

darkride, i dont really see your point about selling two consoles at once.

bottom line, when the ps3 launched, ps2 had sold over 120m units, and the original xbox 25m.

no one expected what happened last gen to happen. even with the higher price point and last to release, everybody expected the ps3 to demolish the 360.

fast forward 7-8yrs, and ps3 is sitting around 80m and the 360 around 78m (yep numbers pulled from my arse but there you go).

but with all that, microsoft must surely know that they cannot go toe-to-toe with sony with a higher price point. if sales are what the fantards need to make themselves feel better (darkride, i am not calling you a fantard by the way. please dont think that i am), then yes sony will have more than everyone else next gen

denawayne4718d ago

Does it really matter how many consoles are sold when the numbers are so close? What really matters is the attach rate. That's where the companies make the money. There have been 478 million Xbox 360 games sold in the US and 298 million on the PS3. If you look at worldwide software sales numbers between the Xbox 360 and PS3 it equals out but the Xbox is still king with 797 million total games sold, with 714 total games sold for the PS3. http://www.vgchartz.com/ana...

slampunk4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

@darkride66

Whilst what you say is true....it is also very narrow minded.

After last gen, with the dominance of PS2, you would've been laughed at if you said that the 360 sales by the end of this gen would be around the same as the PS3...

Sony then came out a year later with an expensive console, bad controller design (R2 and L2) and also took at least a year on top of that to get some decent games going....

Before you say that i'm MS biased, i'm not.....MS have screwed up the XB1 launch from the get go and i certainly applaud sony thus far as they've addressed my main gripes with the PS3. Better controller, easy to develop for system, x game / party chat and also price of hardware.....

PS screwed up the first few years of this gen, MS so far has screwed up for next gen.....

My take on next gen is......If you game online, you are better off with MS. They have better infrastructure.

If you enjoy mainly SP games but also go online a bit as well the PS4 is probably your go to machine.....

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Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II4719d ago

More flamebait for hits wow some xbox fanboys are becoming professional spin doctors. there is about a 4% chance of it outselling ps4 or maybe ONE percent

Prime_284719d ago

And if this article was titled "Why the PS4 Will Win Next Gen" would you still have called it flamebait? I think not.

Menech4719d ago

Well since the "Pope" already has the percentages figured out... I guess I better start investing in shares with Sony.

clrlite4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Even with all the mistakes Sony made with PS3 marketing, pricing, etc. it is still on fire at over $199. They may drop it to $199 for GTA 5 and it could be a wrap.

Sony have already addressed and fixed these mistakes and is ready to push forward with the PS4.

All they have to do is keep doing what they are doing, improve their marketing, and they may dominate next gen.

thetruthx14718d ago

Xbox one only has a 4% chance of outselling the ps4? You're in a state of unconsciousness. Wait till more ppl start seeing the awesome games on the xbox one and Ms lowers the price.

You're underestimating a company that has more than double the $$$ of its competitors which is silly

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TomShoe4719d ago

Troll bait post.

I think the price point will be a better attractant to the average casual.

Besides, why use the Xbox One as a cable box, when I can get, you know, an actual cable box?

avengers19784719d ago

And you still need said cable box, or satellite, if xb1 replaced these things that would be something, but it does not replace them.

clrlite4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

I won't be using cable that much after I get my PS4 anyway.

I don't really watch much TV though anyway.

To each their own.

I guess some fanboys have good reason to be all defensive though.

miyamoto4719d ago

as much as i dislike M$business practices and how much they ruined video games

i for one has never under estimated them that is for sure and most importantly sony has never under estimated them, No! not this 15x bigger than them monster!

M$ maybe crazy but Sony knows they can never outspend this monster on the TV screen nor behind the scene!

Hence the 5 year preparation of the PS4
5 freaken years!!!!

This is how you prepare for war!

5 years

Sony knows and i know it ain't over 'til its really over

Remain vigilant PlayStation gamers.

We have proven that no matter how big, politically powerful, cash rich M$ is, its no match to the voice of the people and freedom of speech on the internet

We have fought for the PS3 and won the public with our opinions

Now lets go for not just 3 feat but 4 feat Grand Slam!

Thomper4719d ago

Oh dear.... You do realise this isn't a tally a real war, don't you?

IcicleTrepan4719d ago

how did 'they ruin video games'?

iceman064719d ago

I agree with your sentiment that Sony knows that they can't outspend MS. Thus, they won't try the TV/Cable thing. They also know that MS and Nintendo were more formidable foes last generation. So, I am assured that Sony did as much homework as possible to be ready for the upcoming generation. The issue really is that generations are unpredictable. At this point, the only thing that can be said is that MS is off to a rough start. Nintendo has to do something to attract people to the WiiU. Sony has gained a lot of traction leading toward the launch.

AngelicIceDiamond4719d ago

Both X1 and PS4 has qualities that can "win next gen" there.

ape0074719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

well said, i agree with that

xbox one....all in one is a huge selling point but at 499$

ps4....nextgen gaming console at killer price of 399$ but not all in one

it's gonna be interesting

devwan4719d ago

ape007 - what does this "all in one" refer to? What exactly does the One do that is so much more far reaching than being a games console with media features? It's something I hear quoted but never see exactly what people are referring to exactly.

ape0074718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

^^^ i mean that many people are gonna like the new 1080p kinect with its cool new features like voice commands/in game face capture/dance etc...., the TV, the snap feature, smart glass and skype

xbox one and ps4 are like two amazingly delicious meals, xbox one just have extra cheese and extra honey BBQ on the dish

SonyPS44719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Yeah, it's flamebait because it's Xbox, while a similar article for PS4 is a message from the gods.

#Onlyonfrontpage

loulou4719d ago

messsage from the gods lol bubs + for truth

iceman064719d ago

Ummm...there is no god before Cerny...You should know better SonyPS4!!! LOL
Seriously, it would still be a flamebait article...it just wouldn't be acknowledged as such. Thus is the nature of N4G in this climate. Hasn't always been the case, but it is right now.

doritos4719d ago

^^ Look at that circle jerk. these boys love the bone.

It will take a miracle for the bone to win.

fermcr4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

"Why the Xbox One Will Win Next Gen"

I doubt that... but i might be wrong. They might win the American market.

If Microsoft wants to win next gen with the X1 (world sales) they need to:
- release a X1 without Kinect at the same price as PS4 or even cheaper.
- get really "big" exclusives (not timed exclusives) that are system sellers for core gamers... only Halo, Gears and Forza is not going to cut it.
- get really "big" exclusives (not timed exclusives) that are system sellers for casual gamers... games like mario kart or similar casual crap.
- offer more then they are offering now with XBLA Gold (games, DLC, special offers, etc)... to compete with PSN+.

As for the article, it offers some valid points, mostly for the American market.

thetruthx14718d ago

Microsoft is already building on more exclusives and I bet sequels can be made off the games already announced.

When you think about it the 360 almost beat the ps3 in sales relying on mostly Halo and Gears of War now look at the great lineup of exclusives already

mikeslemonade4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

If Xbox 360 came out last place in current gen then how in the world is X1 going to win nextgen. That's just the most telling factor since Xbox 360 had so many advantages against the competitors but still came out last place.

And must I repeat again..? WiiU is not nextgen!

n4rc4718d ago

Depends on which polling company you choose to read.

The difference is about a million units.. One has 360 ahead and another has ps3.

Considering sales data is never available at the same time, predictions and forcasts are made..

Its hardly the argument winner people want to believe it is..

Xbox is targeting everyone at the same time.. May or may not win it for them

Sony is pretty much targeting gamers only with a killer price point..

There are some big if's on both sides when it comes to hardware.. Gonna have to wait to find out.. It isn't clear cut this gen

mikeslemonade4716d ago

Just looking at the trend the PS3 has surpassed it. When you have one system selling at a steeper slope and one system that is more stagnant over time then eventually you just accept that the steeper slope(the PS3 has surpassed it). It's pretty hard to estimate 1 million consoles on the wrong end. And still.. with all the advantages the 360 had, they were expected by most people(not including me) to beat the PS3 by good margin.

nosferatuzodd4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Before I get into my explanation, let me just say firstly that I am someone who isn’t particularly fond of Microsoft. I generally like the actual Xbox systems

No what this guy is a Microsoft troll in disguise
yeah yeah and pigs will fly

greenlantern28144718d ago

what he says is the actual problem with the xb1, ms thinking " we're gonna sell millions of these to people who dont even play games" since the xb1 offers many features that people already have on tablets, pc, laptops and smart tv, smart bluray players ect. these are features some one who buys it may use not features that will make some one drop 500$ to talk to their tv, or use their hands to change channels. even the fantasy football features, every one i know who is into fantasy football watches the game with their tablet or laptop right there.
I could see these things getting people to buy it if it replaced your cable box, but you still need it. or if you could tell your xbox to play any football or sporting event that was going on. " Xbox play Vikings Niners game" that would be something

n4rc4718d ago

That's kind of a silly argument IMO..

I can play games on my phone.. Or my PC.. Why do I need a console?

Convenience.. Its not meant to replace your cable box.. Its meant to integrate it into your Xbox experience.. So I can watch tv in the corner in between matches.. Or answer a Skype call while watching TV etc..

Its not a must have feature and doesn't replace anything.. But its still cool as hell.. Lol.. Now I can game, watch TV, play blurays or listen to my music library all without leaving my Xbox screen..

That's what they mean by all in one

greenlantern28144718d ago

@n4rc
but you where already going to buy the xb1 right?
they are cool features for people who where already going to get it, some one who is not into gaming will not buy a console for those other features. also that means you never turn your xb1 off if your using it to do all that it will always be running and i doubt that is good for the system.
and ps3 plays games, blurays,music and you can use hulu+, amazon prime, and netflix.

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LOGICWINS4719d ago

Microsoft has a chance in NA, but Im skeptical of their success worldwide with the Xbox One.

Bigpappy4719d ago

I don't think they need to win worldwide to be happy. N.A and strong showing in Europe like with 360, would give them a great market to sell to. M$ just wants to sell services and make the most profit. They care more about profit than the number of consoles sold.

WeAreLegion4719d ago

"They care more about profit than the number of consoles sold."

They care more about making money than making money?

iceman064719d ago

Agreed...and actually acknowledged by the Ballmer himself. They want to be in the services industry more so than the hardware side. This is a means to an end for them. However, don't believe that MS will just be "happy" with not being dominant. As a company, they want nothing more than to assert absolute control over any industry that they enter so that they can get that profit. No judgement there...just what they do. IMO, at some point they are going to have to jump in with both feet and really take the gaming industry seriously from a company standpoint. Gamers would like to see them take risks and not just play it safe by buying timed exclusives and DLC. Then again, that is not a service and it is considerably more risky.

AceofStaves4718d ago

That's how I see it as well, Logic. The XB1 was obviously built for the U.S. market primarily (see the TV features that won't work in international markets, for example). MS has built a loyal fanbase over the previous two generations, and anyone thinking that the XB1 won't sell well in the U.S. may be in for a surprise come launch time. Globally, I think Sony has a much stronger position in terms of market appeal, especially if they can launch in more territories before the XB1 does.

I'm looking forward to seeing how things play out once the consoles launch.

iamnsuperman4719d ago

"We may not think much about it’s TV capabilities, or it’s fantasy football, or it’s screen-splitting features, but in the eyes of typical every day consumers, these capabilities are nothing short of amazing"

I don't think the TV thing will become popular when consumer start asking how it is done. The problem is it needs a cable box anyway. Consumer are generally not stupid. They will ask "If I pay for TV now how would getting the One be any different". Unless sales reps lie about it (which I doubt they will) saying "you need to get a cable box as well" automatically makes the thing an unnecessary expense. I actually see the TV thing being a non issue.

LOGICWINS4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

I think whats going to hurt them is when people realize that they have to pay for Live to use Internet streaming services like Netflix...something thats free to use on the PS4.

Then again this can change. The better Sony does the more changes Microsoft will make, just like this generation where Microsoft forced Sony to take online gaming seriously and drop the PS3's price prematurely.

iamnsuperman4719d ago

I agree. I feel Sony needs to advertise these differences before launch because these type of policy and software differences can change over time and Sony needs to take the advantage by one upping Microsoft in the public opinion.

LOGICWINS4719d ago

YES! I also feel PS Plus will be instrumental to Sonys success this gen.

nukeitall4719d ago

@LOGICWINS:

People wouldn't buy the Xbox One strictly to stream Netflix. There are cheaper alternatives for that, such as Apple TV and Roku.

It used to be free to play online games on the PS3 while Xbox 360 charged a fee, yet that didn't stop the XBL growth.

It is more about compelling service delivered at a certain value.

It's like saying PC will kill PS4, because games are cheaper, are far less restrictive and doesn't require a fee to play online. Do you think that is going to happen?

"YES! I also feel PS Plus will be instrumental to Sonys success this gen."

I hope not, despite PS+ delivering great value. After all, getting quality games like Mass Effect 3 is amazing, but it is very damaging to the industry.

Once people get accustomed to, let's just wait until it is free rental approach, then how are the developers going to make a profit?

Most of the profit is already made up front, not in the tail. However, if people just wait, then there is no upfront, just a tail!

When Square Enix says that over 3 million sold Tomb Raider games isn't meeting projections, that is a major problem!

I don't think PS+ is good for the industry, and I hope Sony will reverse course and MS doesn't follow as strongly.

iceman064719d ago

@nukeitall...I see your point "compelling services at a value". However, that "value" is subjective. You value it because you are converted. The mass market might not see the value in paying for Live, while paying for Cable, while paying for internet, while paying for Netflix, etc. It's just another bill until MS is able to explain and justify what makes Xbox One special and worth the extra expense.
As for PS+, the industry is NOT being harmed. The games that they are releasing pretty much have outlived their shelf life. They are games that are now sold for $20 or less AND are agreed to by the publishers of the game. It's basically a cheap version of advertisement for the studio and publisher because if you like the free game, you are more likely to pay for the next one on release. There are no promises for which games will come out. So, people aren't gonna take a wait and see approach on a game that they are interested in.

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Bigpappy4719d ago

The TV thing is all about the way it is controlled. M$ believes that controlling the channels with your voice and being able to splint the screen to surf the web, will be appealing to many gamers. I think if you have it you will most likely use it. Like cross game chat. But people will have to see others use it for it to become a selling point. Most are fine with using a remote.

Having said all of that, I like voice command. I use it on my GPS all the time. So saying "Xbox HBO" is more attractive to me than grabbing a remote and scanning channels

nukeitall4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

You are right to compare it to cross game chat. A seemingly small feature, yet it was the most demanded feature on the PS Blog Share until Sony had to flat out go and say "we screwed up and it isn't possible to get xross game chat!"

The instant switching and multi-tasking is akin to when we got Windows 3.1 over the non-multi tasking DOS. It was practicall a revolution on the PC and now we are getting it in the living room.

In the span of about a month, MS has significantly changed the core gamers public reception. Imagine what it will do 3 months from now with proper marketing and explaining of unique features?

Instant switching, amazing things with kinect, the azure cloud, skype and so on.

This is a true next-generation console with next-generation features.

Remember, console gamers gave up "specs", "cheaper game cost", "no cost online play" and "high performance" to gain ease of use with console.

What do you think Xbox One does?

Maddens Raiders4719d ago

@iamnsuperman -- "Sony needs to take the advantage by one upping Microsoft in the public opinion."

Look around the internets. I think you may find that this is already taking place. Gamers know what the deal is and have since Feb 20. It's the casuals where the point you're trying to make may be applicable.

Smoovekid4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

The Flaimbait is real.

Getting real tired of it.

Shok4719d ago

Let's actually read the article and not just the headline people.

This isn't flamebait. There isn't an ounce of fanboyism in there. Give it a read, there are actual, real, legitimate points made in it.

Don't jump to conclusions.

slimeybrainboy4719d ago

Yeah. Too many pending articles are just "Why this is better than that?" from the most insignificant sources that say nothing we don't already know. If Obama says he's buying a Wii U let me know, if a civilian with internet access decides to buy a PS4, I can live without that info, I wouldn't class that as News for Gamers.

Smoovekid4719d ago (Edited 4719d ago )

Exactly, This is not news.

DrRobotnik4719d ago

The way Microsoft engineered the Xbox one is almost reminiscent of a Motorola DVR cable box. I believe that's there plan along. I won't be surprised if in the future, microsoft joins forces with the local cable companies for the use of their device as a monthly premium added on to there cable bill. Normal cable box about $7 a month, an HD DVR is about $17 a month. I can see them charging maybe $24 a month for a cable box that also plays games.

Minato-Namikaze4719d ago

And i'd still get the basic cable box.

Thehyph4719d ago

I'd still not waste money on cable. Haha :)

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot55d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle55d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7755d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7760d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300060d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7260d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit60d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania60d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit60d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0760d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr60d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box60d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr60d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9560d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7260d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--60d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7260d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket60d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm60d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde60d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9259d ago (Edited 59d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_60d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted60d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit60d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9259d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT60d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers60d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14960d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0760d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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