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Why Nintendo Should Buy Atlus

Will Nintendo buy Atlus? That is the question that many Nintendo and SMT fans alike have been pondering these last couple of weeks, and especially today. In the wake of the news that Index Corporation, Atlus’ parent company, is going bankrupt, it has been confirmed that it’s subsidiaries will be auctioned off individually within these next upcoming weeks.

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Donnieboi4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

It's better if it's 3rd party. That way nobody gets left out. I was pushing for Sony only, and had some concerns about Nintendo censoring Atlus (I had a hard time seeing games like Catherine getting the green light). But no one should get left out.

But in the end, it might be best for it to be 3rd party. But IF Nintendo does buy, I hope they (or anyone else who buys Atlus's studios, including SONY) make it KNOWN that they will not censor ATLUS or interfere with their creative process. People will say that they won't, but to hear them say that they will let ATLUS stay intact is comforting.

vishmarx4699d ago

nintendo would destroy persona

Shok4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

Like how they destroyed Bayonetta and Monster Hunter?

@Majiebeast

Don't act slow, you know what the guy was talking about. He was insinuating that Nintendo would somehow dumb-down or change persona. So I made the point that Monster Hunter and Bayonetta have stayed true to themselves, Nintendo didn't alter those franchises at all.

Let's just drop the fanboyism here and guys and look at reality. Stop letting sentiment cloud your minds.

majiebeast4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

Pretty much Bayonetta 2 is gonna tank on wiiU and Monster Hunter 4 looks about as good as the PSP games.

boybato4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

@ Shok
can't speak bout Bayonetta being that its not yet released although regarding MH.... 3DS version is ok however online multiplayer might have been better if it was released on the Vita.

Edit:
I could also imagine that it controls better as well.

_QQ_4699d ago

Source?Your comment is very Ill informed.

Abriael4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

@Shok: Bayonetta and Monster Hunter aren't made by companies owned by Nintendo. There's a large difference between being just published by a company and being owned.

That excuse is absolutely unfitting. Nintendo didn't alter Bayonetta or Monster Hunter for a simple reason: They're not their franchises to begin with.

ZodTheRipper4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

From the big 3, Atlus and especially Persona would be best suited at Sony. Sony is treating their studios very well, see Media Molecule or Quantic Dream for example which have lots of creative freedom. Third party would be best for everyone else but I'm not sure how the financial support would look like with publishers like Sega, Namco or Capcom.

MegaLagann4699d ago

@Majiebeast
How's the crystal ball going for you?

As for Monster Hunter 4? Yeah, it looks about as good as the PSP games. And will play as good as the PSP games. So what's the problem here? Oh wait visuals...

Mounce4699d ago

@Shok

As much as I liked playing Bayonetta, I'm unsure how Nintendo fans, or fanboys can still be deluded to the facts that everyone knows by now and the evidence is everywhere via how third-party developers are reacting to the Wii U.

NON-NINTENDO GAMES BARELY SELL ON NINTENDO HARDWARE! Nintendo didn't destroy Bayonetta 2....as they said it was thanks to Nintendo that a sequel is even being made. HOWEVER, I am very much positive that their fate is sealed with the stereotype that Nintendo Fans, their fanbase, and/or fanboys just simply won't buy the game and it won't be a success and likely won't break any profit because Nintendo themselves simply didn't make it. I wouldn't even know if the Nintendo fanbase love Devil May Cry-like difficult hack n' slash games. DMC was never on Nintendos platforms or any such similar games :/ It's incredibly risky and I honestly don't think Bayonetta 2 will sell well and Platinum will either learn this the hard way OR, will be allowed to release on other platforms.

Take my word for it, just as ZombieU or any other game that perhaps at the very least wasn't Okami on the Wii. No third-party game does well, especially if it's hardcore oriented.... Mad World didn't get far, I enjoyed it....No More Heroes was a fun game on the Wii, I enjoyed it....but none of them did well in terms of sales :/ It's the sad truth, so...Nintendo somewhat 50/50 is destroying Bayonetta 2 if they were to keep it exclusive even after it bombs.

Monster hunter though? PFT It'll do damn fine. Japanese love that shit.

DonFreezer4699d ago

Shut your mouth.I have a feeling that Sony would save those franchises according to you.

SonyNGP4699d ago

That's all you care about? the senpai simulator?

Fun fact: The majority of the MegaTen games have been released on Nintendo platforms since day one, and the latest iteration is exclusive to a Nintendo platform. They definitely destroyed MegaTen didn't they?

Fool.

ChickeyCantor4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

Implying Nintendo is Microsoft. lol

Poor Rare.
Nintendo doesn't power control development teams, they buy them for a reason. If they take control, then what was the point of hiring the talent if it's not being put to use?

gaffyh4699d ago

@megalagann - regarding Bayonetta, I think he's right. Just look at MadWorld for the Wii, everyone thought it was going to be THE hardcore game for Wii and would sell tons, and it sold like shit. Bayonetta has one advantage, and that is that it is not a new IP, but I can't see people buying WiiUs to play the game.

3-4-54699d ago

You guys act like Nintendo only makes Barney games or something.

Conkers Bad Fur Day was released on a Nintendo platform. Have you all forgotten ?

Atlus would be fine with Nintendo and they would have more money to put out more games actually.

wastedcells4699d ago

Persona 5 has been in development for a long time. No doubt for playstation. Personally I would like to see it stay that way. Persona belongs on playstation. What would happen to it if Nintendo bought them? I hope Sony buys them or at least the persona team and the IP. Nintendo should buy the rest.

EngieBengie4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

No, they won't. This is just pure, Nintendo hater paranoia. They co-own the Fatal Frame series. Was FF4 somehow different from the rest or was it true to its original roots? Same for Monster Hunter and Bayonetta. Nintendo payed to have these games on their console but never tried to touch these series that aren't made by them. I've yet to see Nintendo changing or ''casualizing'' ; a series that or a developer that weren't theirs in the first place. That dates back to the N64 days in which they allowed their second-party developer Rareware make games like Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

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Shok4699d ago

I agree. For Nintendo fans, it'd be great and optimal for Nintendo to buy Atlus. But for EVERYONE ELSE, it'd be best if a 3rd-party acquired them. It kinda depends on who you are really at the end of the day.

I personally would love to see Sega or Namco buy them, if not Nintendo.

PopRocks3594699d ago

Fail to see what the disagrees are for. You're pretty much on the ball here. For Nintendo fans it WOULD be a good thing because Aluts consistently makes great games. However it's best if Atlus remains third party for everyone and continue as they were doing before.

_QQ_4699d ago

Personally i don't think anyone may even need to buy them, they make plenty of profit and only their Mother Company is suffering. Atlus is one of the few Devs who still remain loyal to themselves and i believe they deserve to be independent. But if someone does have to buy them, as long as it isn't a western publisher.

vishmarx4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

bayonetta ,even with positive reception from critics and gamers alike failed to meet sales expectations on ps360
games on nintendo home consoles with somewhat mature content that have been succesfull can be counted on fingers
tbh no more heroes is the only thing that comes to mind
and now on an already failing wii u you seriously think the sales will be anythng short o hillarious,?especially outside japan?
its no secret they acquired bayoneta to attract ps360 fans and be called a "hardcore " gaming consoles

falcon974699d ago

Nintendo should buy them,look at Bayonetta2 that looks bigger and better in every conceivable way....i'm sure persona would be just fine as it would still be the normal devs making it ???? only Nintendo would own it and all other Atlus games....who cares.

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Trago13374699d ago

How will they censor their games? Bayonetta 2 doesn't seem to be censored, hell, the first time we see her revealed it was a slow crotch shot. I think Atlus would be ok if Nintendo bought them.

Shok4699d ago

5 disagrees, for stating a pure fact lol.

dcj05244699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

Nintendo doesn't own bayonetta. They dont have much of a say. If they buy atlus. They have control over what they want/don't want in the game. Nintendo is known to censor things to keep the console kid friendly and alot of atlus' s content has theme that are not kid friendly. That's why people are concerned.

MacDonagh4699d ago

@dcj0524 "Nintendo doesn't own bayonetta. They dont have much of a say."

Considering that they SAVED Bayonetta 2 from being scrapped completely; I think they probably have a bigger say than you would like to admit. If they wanted to censor Bayonetta 2; she'd be wearing a nun's habit.

Oh, and don't go with the "CENSORSHIP? WAHHH" approach. I sincerely doubt that Nintendo would censor Atlus. This isn't 1994 anymore. The industry has grown big enough to allow for both kid-friendly and mature games. Unfortunately, the gamers themselves have yet to mature.

PopRocks3594699d ago

We've already discussed this on my blog, so I'll keep this comment as short as possible lol.

I agree wholeheartedly, in spite of my feelings that Nintendo owning Atlus would be beneficial for both Nintendo and Atlus as companies, I absolutely would not want any fans who have played games on other platforms left out. It simply isn't fair to any one side.

showtimefolks4699d ago

i see sony buying them more than nintendo, Atlus have a great working partnership with sony

3d dot hero is one of the best and most underrated games, also nintdneo would censor a lot of Atlus games because they target kids too damn much

sony i was sad when you didn't buy Darksiders IP because i for one wanted GOW team to use their engine for ps4 and make a darksiders games but now you get another chance. Atlus is very under rated

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx4699d ago

I was rooting for Sony + DS Ip too :/

Loved 3D dot game heroes. As you said, very underated. Also wasn't Demon's Souls an Atlus published game? :o,,,,,,,,,,,,,, *drool*

showtimefolks4699d ago

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx

yes sony thought demon soul wouldn't do well in the west so Atlu who have a history of supporting niche games picked up the publishing rights

falcon974699d ago

Nintendo target everyone not kids ?? the most hardcore games for me growing up were Mariokart64 in battle mode and Streetfighter SNES end of they were the all out hardcore multiplayer games everyone played END OF....

Games that were either extremely competitive or hard were HARDCORE....not just because you have dark graphics,it's always been gameplay that will make a game HARDCORE due to competitiveness ect,if a game has no substance then how an earth can the graphics make it HARDCORE ?

MegaLagann4699d ago

Are we not forgetting Nintendo is funding and publishing Bayonetta 2? Are we not forgetting that in the Bayonetta 2 trailer we had a close up shot of her crotch and Bayonetta riding an enemy's spear like a stripper pole? But yeah Nintendo would totally censor Mara.

Firan4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

"Atlus have a great working partnership with sony"

The only new game Atlus has developed for Sony platforms recently is Catherine. Persona 1-4 were re-released on PSP and Vita but that's pretty much it.

Sure they publish many games for everywhere but they wouldn't continue publishing other games if they went 1st party.

I wish they stay 3rd party, but I just can't believe how many people who claim to be Atlus fans think they're favoring Sony.

Craigatorian4699d ago

@Firan
Actually, there have been 5 games from Atlus since Catherine on Sony platforms and 1 more that is going to come out next month, Dragon's Crown, and it's an Exclusive to Sony.
The Cursed Crusade(PS3), Persona 4 Golden(VITA), King of Fighters XIII(PS3), Persona 4 Arena(PS3), & Gungnir(PSP).

Firan4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

@Craigatorian

None of those games you listed are developed by Atlus except for P4G which I mentioned as a re-release for Vita.

Is it really so hard to know the difference between developing and publishing?

Gameratheart4698d ago

Sony would have to sell their headquarters to buy them.... Oh, they already sold it?... Then Nintendo it is! But, Microsoft would benefit the most from the purchase, seeing as though their Japanese presence is nonexistent... It would give them a little more buzz there..

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DonFreezer4699d ago

Of course they won't censor them.Nintendo had some of the more violent games of the previous gen with games like Fatal Frame and Mad World.Nintendo are the purest and less saint company in this industry and I would really like them to buy Atlus.

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Snookies124699d ago

While I would always want them to remain 3rd party, and release their stuff for both Nintendo and Sony... I would have to say, if I had to choose I'd go with Sony. Mainly because I'd be really interested to see them making full use of the PS4 next-gen for games like Persona and SMT. Can't imagine what all they could do with that system's specs.

MegaLagann4699d ago

Dude, they made one game. ONE game for current gen systems. It will be years until Atlus makes a next gen game. Hell they might not even do that. With Atlus' recent track record, they may just got handheld only. Don't blame them, fits their budget.

majiebeast4699d ago

The thing about Index selling off assets is still just a rumor because it comes from a anonymous source who contacted Bloomberg. Otherwise it would already be on IGN,Kotaku and Gamespot.

Trago13374699d ago

They filed for bankruptcy. THAT was across just about every gaming website, so something like this would definitely be feasible.

majiebeast4699d ago

There are otherways to get out of bankruptcy besides selling a companies assets.

Abriael4699d ago

They filed for civil rehabilitation, which is a soft way of bankruptcy. It doesn't work in the same way as in the USA, and selling off all their assets is not required as long as the debt is paid.

Trago13374699d ago

I know, revealing Persona 5 is one of them lol.

Godmars2904699d ago

Know the companies I don't want to buy them: Activision, EA or Square Enix.

BlaqMagiq244699d ago

I would cry manly tears if that happened

Tewi-Inaba4699d ago

Hell I rather Square buy them than Namco Bandai
Atleast if it's square we'll see it in the west in about 6-9 months
if it's namco its almost likely 3 years - never

Nintendo and Sony would be good, but who's to say they have to buy the whole company

Etrian Odyssey is definitely a series that can only exist on a DS/3DS
SMT and it's other chain series /Persona Devilsurvivor ect. are a real toss up, don't care either way.

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lodossrage46d ago

I don't agree with that. I WISH I could agree with that. But buying habits and customer opinions prove otherwise

We've seen developers in the AAA space try new things and ideas. More often than not, the customers aren't willing to give things a chance, or not enough people buy into the project for it to grow.

Creativity works better in the indie space because the budgets, pressures, and expectations aren't the same.

Scissorman45d ago

it's a nice idea and it worked during the PS2/PS3-era when AAA didn't cost hundreds of millions of dollars. smaller budgets and shorter development time left room for more creativity and more risk. a game didn't need to sell 4 million+ copies to break even. things are different now.

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This is the guy who bragged about crunching his staff and having them work through the night. Crunch culture has lost more talent and done more damage to the industry than any other factor. Screw him.