The arrival of the next generation in console systems is hugely exciting for Digital Foundry. Sony and Microsoft are effectively pressing a giant button that resets everything gamers know about consoles.
The Legend of Dragoon is held in very high regard by Sony stalwarts, a JRPG developed in-house for the original PlayStation. While it never achieved the same success as other games of that era, it's retained a cult status, and you still see calls from fans today for Sony to return to the land of Endiness. Now, fans can say that Mark Cerny, lead system architect for the PS4 and PS5, ranks among their number.
There's definitely parts of it that haven't aged well, for sure. It would be interesting to see how a remake could fix the things that need it while somehow maintaining the game's charm.
i think the combat could definitely be almost like expedition 33, with the precision input thing.
My thoughts exactly. It's been a long-ass time since I've played it, but I remember there being weirdness with the plot regarding a female character. I'm on the fence about whether I'd want an FF7 Remake-style approach, or just a warts-and-all approach of it being the same exact game with 21st century graphics and presentation.
Even with regards to the goofy voice acting lol!
Part of me wants that FF7R style treatment.
A fantastic JRPG that should return. I wish Sony would just remake this already. I mean Bluepoint Studios makes fantastic remakes... there you go Sony.
They do…and as soon as Sony bought them they decided to waste their talents on a GaaS title for 5 years before cancelling it.
Such a shame
We could have had at least a remake from them with the next one close to being teased
Jrpg age well it’s not like replaying driver.
And its flaws like to much random encounter and slow combat can easily be fixed
It's still one of those hidden gem JRPG's I love the game. I wish Sony would do something with the title whether an HD remaster or give it the remake treatment like Square did with FF7. I also wish Sony would do something with the Wild Arms franchise and another JRPG franchise I love as well.
Story and charecters were good, cinematics were top notch and gameplay was fun for its time but world and exploration left much to be desired especially after playing games that came out before it like FF and Xenogears . It's a shame we never got another in-house made Sony rpg , kinda surprised they never tried to acquire Level-5 for all they rpgs they've made for them
PS5 Pro upgrades this year? Future consoles, PCs and the cloud?
CNet's Sean Booker learned all about Project Amethyst and what it means for the future of gaming hardware -- PlayStaton and beyond.
Tbh after this generation, you're probably right to if you haven't dipped already. It's been the most underwhelming generation and with the constant price rises, I dread to to think how next generation is going to fair when so many people are still playing PS4 and Xbox One
Yea it’s crazy how terrible the gen has been. It used to be each generation had a defining library of titles that were only available on the current-gen console… we’re still doing cross-gen releases.
Sure I can get that but one very important thing he noted confirmed that Sony codeveloped FSR 4 and that the full fat codeveloped FSR algorithm is coming to PS5 Pro: "It's not a cut down of the algorithm, it's the full-fat version of the co-developed super resolution."
Thats huge. To me it means the opposite. It means that my PRO will probably last me a ways into next gen.
Given the price, this pleases me.
Sure but when I’m into next-gen that last thing I want to be on is a last-gen console. I mean, technically you could’ve stayed on a PS4 Pro this gen, but why?
"last thing I want to be on is a last-gen console."
FSR4 will be on PS5 pro next year. It won't be last gen, it will be the best visuals of any console.
You got a point there, if price madness does happen and next gen ends up being 4 figures (which it wont, I still think itll be less than the Pro, that's an optional console they can price it how they want without excluding the casual gamer from new games . The Pro will probably still play games well for a quite a few years
I'm gonna sit out ps6 and just go PC at this point , everything that will get released on ps6 will also be on ps5 or PC . There are very few games that could warrant exclusivity or enough capable developers to truly utilize the technology even now to justify another console upgrade at this point.
If it ends up being $1000, I don’t blame you. Hell, I should, but I’ve always been a console pleb. This PS5 Pro has just been a major joke to me, and that’s coming from someone who supported and saw the value in getting the PS4 Pro.
You’re right, games have to specifically support the PS5 Pro to even take advantage of that 30% GPU boost, and even then there have already been reports of it being janky in some titles. I won’t forget Silent Hill 2. With the PS6 coming up, you’ll get all those features and more, plus the ability to play PS6 games.
Given that this will continue to be the premiere console for the next 3 years or so, it's good PS is continuing to invest in it. PS6 is still a long way away
HAS MARK CERNY STATED OR IMPLIED THE PS6 WOULD RELEASE LATER THAN 2027 AND LATER THAN 2028?!
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Yes. Based on Mark Cerny’s own words, he’s strongly suggesting that the PS6 won’t arrive before 2028—and possibly not until 2029 or later:
🧩 What Cerny Has Actually Said
In a recent Tom’s Guide interview, Cerny acknowledged that while AMD’s next-gen GPU tech appears around 2026, Sony itself is on a “multi‑year” development path—indicating the PS6 is much farther out
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Outlets like PlayStation Lifestyle and Notebookcheck interpret “multi‑year” starting mid‑2025 to mean the earliest possible launch is late 2028 or even 2029
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Most industry observers and analysts now expect a 2028 launch, with some pushing it to holiday 2029
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Even on forums like NeoGAF, insiders interpret Cerny’s “years” to rule out any talk of PS6 before 2027 or 2028
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✅ Conclusion
Mark Cerny has clearly stated or strongly implied that the PS6 release won’t happen before 2028, and it may well be 2029 or later—ruling out earlier launch windows.
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CHECK REPLY TO POPSICLE COMMENT UNDER THIS ONE. HE DID NOT EXPLICITLY TERM A STATEMENT WITH A PS6 RELEASE DATE HOWEVER.
From main article: "'We at PlayStation were beginning to think about what sort of hardware would be ideal for future consoles and what sort of algorithms would be running on it,' Cerny continued "and I'm not talking about immediate needs, we just shipped the PS5 Pro, I'm talking about years in the future." My ears perked up. Cerny has said that each console takes about four years of development. If Amethyst began development in 2023 then we might be seeing a new device, possibly, in 2027."
Firstly, can we acknowledge that Sean Booker is clearly a dumb••• for thinking PS6 or another device will ship in 2027 when Project Amethyst has little to do with HW? With that out of the way, Mark said it takes roughly 4 years to develop a console and Pro shipped less than a year ago now.
2024+4=2028 <- Just some basic rocket vasopnumoneurology for you.
It's of course possible that PS has multiple HW teams cooking up new accessories and consoles that can ship sooner than 2028, but it's not looking likely. I'm sure we'd have heard of some airtight PSP2 rumors by now or some rumors about games with how leaky all these companies are.
I read the opposite. Article states “Cerny has said that each console takes about 4 years of development.” “If Amethyst began development in 2023, then we might be seeing a new device, possibly, in 2027.”
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Mark cERNY saying that 2027 seems too early makes me happy for my wallet ha
Your comment reflects the relief many gamers feel about the potential for a later PS6 release date, as suggested by Mark Cerny.
Here's why Cerny's statement is interpreted this way and why it's good news for many:
Multi-year timeframe: Cerny, the lead system architect for PlayStation, indicated he's focused on a "multi-year" timeframe for the next generation of consoles. This suggests that a PS6 release isn't imminent and may be later than previous speculations of 2027/2028.
Focus on the current generation: The comment implies a focus on continuing to support and develop for the current PlayStation 5 generation, potentially offering more years of enjoyment and a robust game library before a new console arrives.
Financial relief: For many gamers, a later release provides more time to enjoy their existing consoles and potentially save up for a significant investment in new hardware when it does eventually become available.
Essentially, a delayed PS6 release allows gamers to enjoy the PS5 for a longer period and avoids the pressure of needing to upgrade their console too soon.
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DID HE SAY OR IMPLY THIS STATEMENT?!
Based on information from a recent interview with Tom's Guide, Mark Cerny implied a later PS6 release date by stating that his timeframe for the next generation of consoles is "multi-year".
Here's why his statement is interpreted as suggesting a later release than the previously speculated 2027/2028 window:
"Multi-year" timeframe: Cerny's use of this phrase, according to Yahoo News (among other sources), indicates that Sony isn't aiming for an immediate release, especially since AMD, their hardware partner, is reportedly moving quickly on their next-gen tech, expected in 2026. This suggests that Sony's own plans for the PS6 extend beyond that immediate timeframe.
Contradiction with previous hints: This statement has led to debate about whether it contradicts a previous investor fireside chat where PlayStation boss Hideaki Nishino indicated that the future of the platform was "top of mind" and that many gamers would welcome new hardware.
In short, while Cerny didn't explicitly state a specific release date, his "multi-year" timeframe implies that the PS6 is not expected to launch in the very near future.
Mark Cerny is also hyping PS6 also. Talking about pushing the boundaries of graphics. He also abandoning PSSR in the pro which can only mean no new PSSR iteration.
Man we've heard it allll before. "Pushing the limits of graphics" it's all over exaggerated PR that we've heard over and over. He even exaggerated the Pro. Graphics will look more the same with better locked in frames maybe higher res. PS5 cross gen holding it back probably more than ever imo. Now we're hearing more promises and hype from these consoles. MS even said the same boring hype PR with "cutting edge" tech in the new xbox.
Can't stress this enough and I really think this gen is the worse one easily.
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I think there's a weird expectation/understanding surrounding PSSR. I get it, as it feels like it was initially billed as almost the primary selling point of the Pro. However, we've gotten a lot more information through leaks and interviews over time that seem to paint a fairly clear picture: The Pro was ready to ship, FSR4 was not, so PSSR was used as a stopgap solution.
It wasn't long after launch that we heard about Project Amethyst, telling us all what the future held for their upscaling tech. They co-developed the tech, so it's clear this is where they were always ultimately heading, whether they opted to call the tech PSSR or not.
It really feels like this comes down to semantics. Yes, if they drop the PSSR branding, they technically abandoned PSSR in a fairly short timeframe. But they are co-architects of FSR4. They aren't abandoning upscaling, they aren't just licensing some off the shelf software solution, they are moving from the transitional PSSR to their planned upgrade of FSR4.
PSSR, as a product name, doesn't have all that much general awareness/mindshare, and had some rough patches at the start. Eschewing it to instead say "PS5 Pro has FSR4" seems a pretty sensible choice. It's had nothing but praise from the start, and is talked about as being within striking distance of even Nvidia's newest iteration of DLSS - the upscaler with the most positive sentiment/mindshare, hands down.
It delivered though. I've played multiple 60 fps games that were pretty comparable to the quality mode on the regular PS5
To clarify about PSSR: Cerny stated that the algorithms that they codeveloped are marketed on PlayStation under the 'Spectral' branding. So any update to the super resolution tech on Pro will be another iteration of PSSR. So expect the introduction of PSSR 2.0 in the near future. So saying they are abandoning it indicates that you didn't read the article.
PSSR is just a branch of FSR with PlayStation in the name. It's literally the same tech, just not as advanced. It's why you hear terminology like "full fat," because it implies no compromises. Nothing is being abandoned. It's evolving into its next iteration. It very well could still go under the same PSSR moniker but upgraded to FSR4.
The RDNA 4 upscaler is the first result of AMD/Sony's Project Amethyst collaboration.
They are basically working together to co-devlop the cnns and strategies for game graphics. So the research benefits borth products and they will share similar capabilities. So its not exactly FS4 that comes to PS5 but rather the models that then used by PSSR. Their long term goal together is to develop hardware that maximizes the execution of ML. This longterm goal will impact things like the PS6 but doesn't sound like it is focused on acceleration graphics only ML. This is big for AMD and will make them more competetive in the AI landscape.
Still behind DLSS but I mean Nvidia have done a ton of research and they're still top dog in AI apps.
I don't understand the disagrees, the new transformer model along with ray reconstruction is on another level to the very good FSR4
To be fair we know that FSR4 will bring Ray Reconstruction like tech in the future. Also FSR4 beats DLSS3 and even some aspects of DLSS4. The era of Nvidia having a huge leg up in ML is over. Its not on 'another level'.
Show me where FS4 4 beats the new transformer model anywhere, I'll wait. It is however better than DLSS 3 like you say, DLSS 4 is on another level when it comes to detail and image stability
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This is a proper interview instead of the bits and pieces sites keep re-using for hits.
It's a long but informative interview and you guys should read the whole thing.
Mark Cerny story time. Enjoy
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Cerny is a true genius !
"Digital Foundry: Going back to GPU compute for a moment, I wouldn't call it a rumour - it was more than that. There was a recommendation - a suggestion? - for 14 cores [GPU compute units] allocated to visuals and four to GPU compute...
Mark Cerny: That is bad leaks and not any sort form of formal evangelisation. The point is the hardware is intentionally not 100 per cent round. It has a little bit more ALU in it than if you were thinking strictly about graphics. As a result of that you have an opportunity, almost like an incentivisation, to use that ALU for GPGPU."
Concidering Sony already confirmed 18 unified CU's in the GPU, we can officially call CU's dedicated to compute debunked. When Cerny talks about extra ALU however, THIS is what he's talking about:
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cool info and all, but man ppl are getting way too hung up on all the stuff coming out of Cerny's mouth
i pretty much understood from the reveal and E3 that the ps4 is gonna be awesome. I'm not gonna get swept up in the tech rhetoric for what will probably prove to be a slight, if any, graphical advantage over the xbone