@PigPen

You'll probably get more disagrees than he will just for worrying about disagrees.
Who cares if people click a button on you, just speak your mind honestly. That's what we need on this site, people that can speak their own mind openly and honestly. Not sheep who succumb to the hype and propaganda.
It seems like all I ever read on here anymore is "Troll", "Fanboy", "Flamebait", etc....
It's getting old

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I disagreed with you PigPen, but I agreed with Brucis. Do you see where I'm goin with this. I'm not trying to be insulting or anything like that. We just need some more intellectual comments on this site. That's all I'm after.

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I will bubble you up if you state something relevant :)

Not to sound rude, but either wait til the Wii U is cheaper or tough it out. I only got a PS3 a few months back and that was due to price. The only games that really interested me were Demon's Souls, Disgaea 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Ico+SotC Collection, and a couple others. Paying $300-400 was a bit much for me, so I waited. Eventually it went down enough in price for it to be worth it and I got it.

It's unfortunate, but when there's a console that has only a couple games that interest you then you have to buck up and buy it anyways while hoping that maybe there's more there for you to enjoy, wait for a price drop to more appropriately match how much you're willing to spend, or simply knuckle down and deal with not having those games.
Those are the options.

Well as I said in the post above, I haven't played anything Nintendo related since N64. All my friends also jumped ship to Playstation in the 90's, so none of them have a GameCube, nor a Wii, and no Wii U either.

The aformentioned games are something I'd like to play, not something I desperately need to. If Nintento don't want to release their games on Playstation, that's fine, I won't be playing them, simple as that. By the time the console gets cheap enough, I already have a list of games to go through on the consoles I already own. I realize Nintendos games are different from everyone elses, but that's not my point. I don't care about them enough to make me buy a Nintendo console anymore.

@Brucis

Get The Last of Us, you won't regret it

Awesome, that's exactly what I was fishing for. Thank you, that's all I wanted. How is the Wii U anyways? Honest question. I haven't tried it yet. That huge controller is killing me though, is it actually comfortable?

I'm not biased about gaming at all, to each their own. Just because we hold different controllers or have access to different games is no reason to be judgmental. The whole fanwars thing is stupid in my opinion. I do realize this site is way lopsided though, so that's unfair.

I don't even know what a damn bubble is by the way. lol

I like you, but not that way. I was going about jokingly splasin and you just brought me back down to earth.

Come on lets be real here, don't act like the Wii didn't sale because of a gimmick, and once that gimmick lost its magic, the Wii sales came to complete stop, and one success does not make you successful, since 94 when Sony released the ps1, PlayStation home consoles and outsold Nintendo home consoles 2 to 1, so they are in fact playing catch up still

PS3 was 600 dollars at launch, with hardly any games and very few features, so even die hard Sony fans couldn't justify buying it at first, causing many gamers to jump from Sony to the cheaper Xbox, and because of their mistake Sony has now had to fight to gain their fan base back, so that's why they are as you say struggling.

Yes Nintendo on the other sold a lot of Wii's at first, but lost a lot respect from gamers in the process, and the sales of Wii's suffered because of that, after the gimmick died wii sales were horrible, Sony and Microsoft however will continue to sale ps3 and 360's even after their new systems drop, meaning they will both pass one day 100 mill and the Wii as well (the tortoise and the heir)

now to your point on online, online had become a staple thanks to Xbox live and halo, Xbox live helped Microsoft gain enough support from fans that the Xbox actually outsold the GameCube (that should've been a Que to Nintendo). Then Microsoft spent a whole year talking up online and Xbox live before Nintendo even dropped the Wii, thats why 360 was so successful at first, xbox went from a system that barely sold 27 mill, to the must have device all because of their promise of improved online gaming.

Now I understand that Nintendo was already in development and couldn't change their online before launch, but even after the system dropped they didn't look to improve their online once it was clear online was important, and the Wii u online isn't so much better than the Wii's

And good for Nintendo on getting a hit with the Wii, but you must be blind if you don't see how getting a hit with the Wii is now hamstringing them with the Wii u, 1st the Wii was based on a gimmick, and that's hurting them now because hardcore gamers view the game pad as another gimmick and don't care about the Wii u because they got tricked last time, 2nd the Wii was marketed to causal gamers, that's hurting them now because the people who bought Wii don't feel the need to upgrade consoles every generation, they picked the wrong crowd to go after, and to top it all off the Wii was so underpowered most third party developed didn't put their best games on the system, causing them to question Nintendo decision making, which is now carrying over the the Wii u and causing this drought that the system is going thru because Nintendo has to supply the games themselves, and Nintendo only puts out what 5 or 6 first party games a yr, so with little to no 3rd party support, that's not a lot of games

so lets not fan boy this up and act like Nintendo has been killing it lately when it comes to home consoles, for 5 yrs they played second fiddle to Sony, then once Xbox came along Nintendo became the 3rd wheel, just because they hot for a 3 yrs run with the wii doesn't mean they are doing everything right, even a broken clock is right twice a day

How can you dismiss motion contol as a 'gimmick'? Playing tennis by swinging a racket and actually being able to apply spin and curve, boxing and all the wii sports and wii sports resort games are some of the most innovative and enjoyable gaming experiences ever. Also COD with a wiimote and nunchuk is a much more realistic and enjoyable way to play. Once you ply that way you can never go back to the old fashioned way. As for the wii u online features its fine. If I want to play FIFA I go online and I can play people. And there's ranking. Thats all I need. If I want to shoot some Call Of Duty I can. If I want to test my skills on Injustice Gods among us I can too. Perfectly happy with online and its 10 times better than wii online. The wii won the last generation. Yet you are actually stating that they went for the wrong crowd? B*tch please. You talk about little or no third party support? I hbought my wii u on launch day. Since then I have bought Zombi U, Call Of Duty Black Ops 2, Fifa 13, Injustice Gods Among Us, Mass Effect 3, Resident Evil Revelations, Need for Speed Most Wanted U, Sniper v2. With Raymans, Watchdogs and Call Of Duty Ghosts still to come soon.

sok where to start,
ps1 and ps2 were competeing with nintendos third and fourth console so Nintendo had a lil more than a decades headstart in the industry, so though sony did well to outsell Nintendo with those consoles they still have decades to catch up.
I was not implying that Nintendo is doing okey dokey pokey right now I was clarifying what the prior commentor had said about nintendos reasons for not adopting certain things.
every console has a gimmick. wii motion move Kinect to gamepad, vita cross play, smart glass, share buttons, talking to ur tv. all gimmicks and yes gimmicks do help to sell.did the love for it fade ? yes you are absolutely right and sales for all the consoles dropped. the gaming industry is not to huge so if you got 100mil units out on the market already then really there is not many more people to seel it to especially when you have two competitors.
as for ps360 moving past wii sales, I seriously doubt that will happen regardless of how long they keep on the market, though if it did happen id think ms has a better shot at it than sony, but we shall see. no fanboy here my friend, i'm just from an era where gaming is about fun and playing a game not watching it and doing diagnostics on the hardware. fun games are fun period no matter who makes them, I just find it aggrevating when people who consider them selves gamers, let aon hardcore gamers, cite the tiniest things because they have something against a particular brand, the very fanboy stuff you were mentioning. you old enough to have played Atari, colecovision, sega master system, the original nes and so on? I mean while they were the only things on the market. this is my era, gaming being fun and challenging, bits eventually became semi important butnot to the scale that people talk about graphics now. to the point that we're calling for a gaming forefather to shut down and go software only? that's craziness. sony pulled their act together with the ps3 Nintendo did it with the 3ds and the same will go for the wii u. sorry so long winded lol

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.