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Xbox One, It’s Not Over Yet

The Xbox One is already off to an abysmal start. However, it's in the same position Sony's now-beloved PS3 was in several years ago. Is it possible for the Xbox One to someday climb out of its hole, and show people its one heck of a console?

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David88Corn4700d ago

Part of the Xbox 360's massive success was owing to Microsoft's ability to keep adding new features/applications/producti vity to it. Will be interesting to see if Xbox One/PS4 have a similar life span - can they regain new life after the initial launch.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34700d ago

Now that the 24hr check-in has been removed, I have no problems with the XB1 and am actually more interested in it. That being because minus the specs, details and features are aplenty along with more, imo, interesting exclusives.

DeFFeR4700d ago

I'm interested as well, but that price point is not great. I don't care about Kinect inclusion, and I know it's 'required' to run the system, but if it's what's driving the price $100 higher than PS, it's going to keep me from buying one until a great sale, or at least some exclusives that make it too hard to hold off.

Gaming1014700d ago

lol the 24 hr check is nothing compared to not being able to lend your friends games without them being on your friend's list for 30 days, the used game policy was ludicrous and it's not exactly clear which elements are being kept and which are being thrown out. I get it that the 24 hr check is gone, and that locking your system out is gone, but what about selling games/lending/borrowing games? What about the focus on Kinect and the casual market that hardcore fans couldn't care less about?
Msoft has bigger problems than what anyone is letting on.

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yesmynameissumo4700d ago

They're really underestimating how much of a cluster having to set the console up WITH an Internet connection will be.

MestreRothN4G4700d ago

That one time activation might refer to actual games. Look the original statement again.

n4rc4700d ago

Your reading too much into it.. Chill! Lol

It means the obvious... You need to connect to the internet once to download the update that enables the reversal stuff..

yesmynameissumo4700d ago

It applies to the console. And there are plenty of people who game and don't have the net. Having to setup your console online, to be able to play offline, when you don't have Internet is going to affect sales. Well, returns actually.

vallencer4700d ago

Xbox one was going to continue the trend of adding new features and applications but now the biggest features they had trying to move the industry forward are now gone. I hope they come back to be honest because i was looking forward to what microsoft had planned but now all im getting is a glorified 360. So instead of moving forward we are at the exact same spot we were 7 years ago. It's a shame honestly.

Hexer10214700d ago

Totally agree. MS has always been changing the game. Achievements and party chat are some of the biggest things to effect games, and guess who used it on consoles first? MS is really good about thinking ahead, and I have 100% faith in them to do it again next gen. Can't wait to see.

GrandTheftZamboni4700d ago

Achievements are just improved skillshots.

mediate-this4700d ago

I honestly think the x1 and ps4 will have a longer life span due to better specs, just more available ram, finely tuned programming as the gen goes on.

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dedicatedtogamers4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

"it's in the same position Sony's now-beloved PS3 was in several years ago"

No it isn't, not by any LSD-inspired leap of the imagination. It's in a far worse situation.

PS3 was the third in line after two of history's highest-selling consoles. Sony had a ton of goodwill with its fanbase (it only hit the fan @ E3 2006 when Sony announced $599, you'll work more hours to afford it, Giant Enemy Crab, etc). Believe it or not, but most magazines and sites were still singing the PS3's praises up until launch. It wasn't until about 3-6 months after launch that the vitriol began (kicked off by the now-infamous EGM magazine cover: http://www.gamesetwatch.com... )

Sorry, but the Xbox brand does not have that sort of heritage or goodwill, not that brand loyalty means much nowadays (look at the Wii-U). The X1 is getting widespread hate BEFORE launch. That's pretty significant. Not to mention Sony was in a fantastic place, financially. Xbox, on the other hand, is a bleeding brand that has lost Microsoft money since Day One, and the only guy who did anything to change that (Mattrick) just left the company. And now Microsoft is restructuring, which will probably turn the Xbox gaming division into the Xbox "Media" divsion, make gaming even less of a priority.

I know it's attractive to revise history and say "Xbox One is in the same boat as PS3, and look how THAT turned out! Everything will be fine, guys!" but the PS3 had to fight and struggle and persevere for YEARS before it clawed out of the hole it dug.

Will Microsoft demonstrate the same dedication to gaming? Well, what has their behavior been over the last three years? What did the Xbox One console reveal focus on? Microsoft failed to "tough it out" even when the times were good, closing many veteran game studios in the process. You think when times are tough that Microsoft will snap their suspenders and devote the next several years to winning back the hardcore gamer?

Gazondaily4700d ago

"Will Microsoft demonstrate the same dedication to gaming? Well, what has their behavior been over the last three years? What did the Xbox One console reveal focus on?"

Why have you missed out E3? What did E3 focus on? Tell me, whose E3 focused more on games? Sony or Microsoft's?

You're right that the Xbox brand does not have the same heritage as Sony's. But all the flak it is receiving is probably a good thing because it will force MS to focus on games.

I know, a company shouldn't really have to be reminded or forced to cater for its core market, but actually, this is exactly what happened to the PS3 in the Kutaragi era of "we never said it [the PS3] is a gaming device...its a multimedia device etc [paraphrasing here].

MS' games library looks really impressive. However, whether or not it maintains its commitment remains to be seen. But it is facing enormous pressure as a result of the terrible PR and the mistakes its made. So I remain confident that it will continue to deliver in terms of gaming content because, well, it cannot afford to do so otherwise.

Everything else is in place, the £1 billion commitment to IP's, more commitment than EVER before in MS history as far as gaming ip's are concerned and now its in the defensive. Which really, for core games, is actually a good thing.

X1, its not over yet. Why? Because the real game hasn't even started.

yesmynameissumo4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

"Why have you missed out E3? What did E3 focus on? Tell me, whose E3 focused more on games? Sony or Microsoft's?"

Sony.

But purely from a "games I want to play" perspective. Also, seeing how Titanfall played makes me look forward to the PS4 release. Even if it is COD: Mechs.

"So I remain confident that it will continue to deliver in terms of gaming content because, well, it cannot afford to do so otherwise."

They revealed the console as a set-top box. Games aren't a priority.

dedicatedtogamers4700d ago

This article said that Xbox One's bad start is the same as what happened with PS3, and then goes on to imply that Microsoft will be just fine and dandy because, hey!, the PS3 ended up being okay, too.

It's a false equivalence.

If Microsoft fights for their fans and goes to battle for their marketshare like they did with the Xbox and the early years of the Xbox 360, then I'm 100%, whole-heartedly, unequivocally in support of that, in spite of my personal reservations regarding Microsoft as a company (MS and me go waaaaay back. OG MS-DOS gamer here)

But Microsoft is not showing me that commitment. The $1 billion for games is no different than 5 billion transistors in the Xbox One hardware. It's a number. It doesn't mean quality. It doesn't mean commitment.

Death4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Xbox a bleeding brand since day 1? The original Xbox lost money. The Xbox 360 has been profitable for quite some time. If you added up all the pluses and minuses since day one, then yes the brand overall lost about 3 billion. This is not how companies work and any losses were written off years ago. For comparsion sake, the Playstation brand has lost almost twice as much since the start. Once again though, any losses were written off each fiscal year against the companies gains. The only key difference is Microsoft as a whole hasn't lost money fiscally like Sony had for 4 years straight.

As for Sony and their many first party studios, realistically they have been costing Sony money for years. We also see very little output for the massive amount of studios they aquired. Yeah, Sony has the ability to crank out games, but not many actually buy them. Their core exclusives barely offset Microsoft exclusives combined with their third parties. It's just another way to do business. Microsoft wants third parties to carry more weight than Sony.

Death4700d ago

Maria,

Look at your first link, they have made a profit in the gaming division for 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. That is a profit for quite some time. The losses prior to 2008 are not carried forward in business, they are written off against profit by the entire company fiscally. Some call that investing. The forbes link you provided is an opinion piece and not very well researched since it contradicts the info from your first link. It's hard to "make nothing in the entertainment division" if they actually post a net profit annually for 5 years in a row.

If you are feeling frisky, check out Sony's financial statements for the last 5 years. They have lost money in their gaming division and company wide for years. This means they haven't been able to write off losses, they are borrowing money to keep the lights on.

It's comical that you are critical of Microsofts bussiness and completely oblivious to Sony's which is in really bad shape.

Godmars2904700d ago

Still expecting that the one-time internet connection requirement is going to wind up kicking the console in the teeth. That hardware reliability is still a question for both the PS4 and XB1 but especially the latter given the 360's launch.

Death4700d ago

No doubt the launch 360's had some serious issues that affected alot of gamers, but Microsoft stepped up and warrantied these machines for 3 years. They also released a slimmed down version and now an even newer revision without problems.

As a multi-console gamer and PC gamer, I'm more concerned with the console that is reportedly more powerful and in a much smaller package with the brick inside. The XboxOne looks to have much more breathing room in the box which is typically needed for PC architecture. Sony's track record for console reliability isn't nearly as good as many choose to believe either. I worked at EB in the 90's and the original Playstation was the console that prompted EB to offer EPP's. I know I went through 4 EPP's on the original alone. I also had multiple PS2's before getting a slim and none were warrantied by Sony.

I don't fault either company since I understand they are cramming alot of tech in a small box for relatively little money for what you get. At the same time I won't say either makes a more reliable console, but one company atleast stood behind their product.

Godmars2904700d ago

While I pointed out possible issues that both the PS4 and XB1 could have, its the XB1 that's getting rumors about overheating. To the point that its CPU might have to be underclocked.

Also, where the PS2 only had DVD diode, the launch 360s were made with cheap and untested parts. Had DVD drivers which lacked padding which lead to damaged discs. Likely also suffered from fundamental design flaws which necessitated a new slimmer model.

Again, by the example of the online requirement, MS is showing that their focus is on software rather than hardware.

Death4700d ago

The rumor was the eSRAM was having production issues on the die. Speculation was the system would be slowed down to compenate for the heat of the faulty die. Nothing was confirmed by a reputable source. It was speculation based on early pre-production rumors.

MadMen4700d ago

Now that Xbox has corrected its policy, if they bring a sku out at 399, or 349 before launch.

They will be in competitive shape. Dont count MS out, SONY did this once, and got bitten for it.

However I think PS4 has the momentum right now.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio19d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing18d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit19d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing18d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9218d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted21d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8521d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele20d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk20d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay20d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit20d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg20d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14921d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay20d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn221d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn220d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown21d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay20d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay20d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac20d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger21d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300021d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde21d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde20d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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