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Xbox One = PS3?

Gamers Association editor Alex Wen is feeling a little deja vu with the Xbox One. Anyone else receiving sudden flashbacks to the early days of the PlayStation 3?

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xHeavYx4700d ago

HEY! You don't insult the PS3 with that comparison

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Will MS have amazing 1st party AAA dev that can match Naughty Dog? Probably not.

Xbox One comes and now they are all about the games.
In after they sell 50M+ it will be all about kinect[again] and what the cloud can see through it.

Watching people with kinect so u can customizing ads on a paid service with ads is ugh..

Also ps3 looked sexy and xbox look like this http://www.schrankmonster.d...

But I do feel that ps4 will be lead platform most times. I hope so.

3 OS's lol.

Sorry.

Enemy4700d ago

The PS3 is the best console of this generation. Xbox One is the worst of next gen. How are they the same?

Wishful thinking. Too bad.

FlameHawk4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

@ Enemy, you are a typical N4Ger. Didn't even read the article. He was comparing the early days of PS3, which were terrible, if you think PS3 had a good start then you are just being a fanboy. Learn2Readthearticles. And also other things he is saying in which he does have a point for some of them.

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Bathyj4699d ago

Thats a myth Flamehawk.

PS3 had Resistance 1 which was smooth as silk and regarded by many as the best in the franchise, and Motorstorm whose graphics still hold up today.

It didnt take long for titles like Heavenly Sword and Uncharted to come along and its pretty much been no looking back since then.

Xbox was no better. It pretty much had GRAW at launch and then I bought alot of crap games between that and Gears a year later.

The only thing that was bad about the PS3 launch was the price (which I was happy to pay and never regretted it) and the embarrassing amount of FUD the media came up with trying to kill it. Hell I think it even coined the term FUD, just for PS3.

pixelsword4699d ago

Fred Tatasciore is also part of all of the voices of the B&B corps.

Ju4699d ago

PS3 got flak because of it's price, but it is/was the better console. How does this apply now, where the more expensive console is half of the PS4? How do they want to recover from that? There no squeezing of first party titles. This game will be over as soon as we will be getting real footage to compare. You can't squeeze and make up for what you don't have to begin with. PS3 had more raw power but needed ways to harness that. XBone doesn't.

CommonSense4699d ago

ND is the most overrated developer in the industry. So sick of hearing this mind-numbingly stupid statement. Their games are boring cliches with NO original ideas, and the only thing that they do well is make animated movies in the form of cut scenes. Something we've seen in FF games (and countless others) for a decade or more.

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dedicatedtogamers4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

A better comparison would be between the X1 and Saturn.

- Saturn's predecessor, the Genesis, launched way before the SNES and got a huge headstart. X1's predecessor, the 360, was the same way.
- Without said headstart, the Saturn lost a lot of the 3rd party support SEGA had gained on the Genesis. TBD if this will happen to X1.
- SEGA's reputation was damaged as it released too many add-ons (32x, CD) and ignored its fanbase. The Saturn suffered for it 360 did the same thing with Kinect and the X1 will likely suffer for it.
- Saturn was more expensive than its competitors despite having inferior hardware (in terms of certain capabilities; it was a beast for 2d animations). We all know the X1 has weaker specs on paper, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that X1 devotes 37% of its RAM to the three OSs and apps, not games, widening the gap in power even further

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Kingthrash3604700d ago

This..^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

was my first thought.

JetP06194700d ago

@ iron_spider that 75+ million fanbase you speak of is somehow irrelevant at this point because TBH those people were disgruntled Ps2 owners who couldnt wait a year for the ps3's release and at the time it costs much more than xbox 360. It's different Era now. Ps4 will be the ps2 of next gen and in best case scenario it will surpass ps2's lifetime sales. mark my words.

Benchm4rk4699d ago (Edited 4699d ago )

@JetP0619

Your pretty naive to think 75 million people were disgruntled PS2 owners. I bought my Xbox 360 at launch not because I was a disgruntled PS2 owner but rather a happy Xbox owner. And price was not a factor as I paid $1800 to import my 360 from the UK as it didn't release in Australia for another 4 months

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xk774700d ago

Dude its the curse of the third generation consoles lol

xxLuckyStrike4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Ironic tho how Sony learned from xbox 360 business/launch model approach (consumer friendly) and how MS went where Sony came to regret... high launch price unproven hardware and arrogance

fsfsxii4700d ago

Maybe, but regarding the Saturn, it was Sega's forth console, genesis was the third

defyenz4696d ago

You are so right.ps3 just plain garbage. Oversized door stopper.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Pretty much.It's like bizzaro world and it's all flipped upside down.

Now Sony is the media darling and riding a tidal wave of support and MS is all doom and gloom and to expensive.

Looking at nintendo with the Wii U, Sony with the PS3 from PS2 and now the new xbox, it's weird to see how things start from scratch each new gen - regardless how successful you were the gen before.

Really tho, i think this will ultimately be one of the worst gens for Xbox.They are launching in less then half the territories PS4 is and at a higher price.Nothing but horrible PR and confusing messages.Let's be honest here, Sony botched the PS3 launch bad but they somehow,someway, through sheer brilliance or luck managed to turn it around only after years of slow steady climbing.

I honestly can't see MS doing the same.They are a very all in or fold type of company.Mattrick got the boot, leadership is up in the air with a new console set to release in a few months.This is a recipe for disaster.

B-radical4700d ago

Xbox need to put a gamer but also someone who is smart and understand what people want. Hardware cant change from here on but software and live memebership deals sure as hell can. Knowing microsoft though they will prob put a suit in charge sadly.

SegaSaturn6694700d ago

Microsoft is gonna be just fine. You clearly missed that news that Steven Spielberg will be directing a live action Halo series.

But in all seriousness, I'm gonna be very cautious about the xbone since the hardware failure rate of the 360 was so ridiculous.

PS4 is the gamer's choice. I love that they mentioned Breaking Bad during their e3 conference.

Gamerchik874700d ago

Oh my god! ! U have no life lol

GrandTheftZamboni4700d ago

So? We are gamers, aren't we?
/jk

dedicatedtogamers4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

"Sony botched the PS3 launch bad but they somehow,someway, through sheer brilliance or luck managed to turn it around only after years of slow steady climbing. "

That's the thing. Sony had just won two generations in a row with two of the highest-selling games consoles of all time (a record Sony still holds) and yet it still took them years to make up for the PS3's mistakes. It has only been within the last 3 years that the general gaming populace has more or less "forgiven" Sony for the PS3 launch.

And yet people think the Xbox One will be completely fine? LOL. It's like no one looks at history anymore...

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Exactly. What's even funnier is when I see comments like "Xbox One will still outsell PS4 because of brand loyalty, dude! Look how much the 360 sold!", as if the exact same argument wasn't used to 'prove' that (for example) the Wii-U and the PS3 would sell like crazy.

MysticStrummer4700d ago

"It's like no one looks at history anymore..."

It's a human thing.

Always doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past, because THIS time it will be different.

Ray1864700d ago

Isn't that the definition of insanity?

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dedicatedtogamers4700d ago

@ iron_spider

If we're going to talk about history, when has the most expensive console ever won? Isn't that the boat the Xbox One is currently in? The SNES, by the way, was more powerful than Genesis and indeed managed to win, even though it launched 2 years later.

If you want to debate gaming history, you're going up against the wrong guy, especially if your only arguments are vague and overused lines like "most powerful never wins LOL!"

GribbleGrunger4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

I've always found the argument about power to be facile. If you think about it logically, what you are saying is that it's only because of the fact the PS2 was weaker that it won. If it had been stronger than the XBOX, it would have lost!?

Think about it just for a moment for goodness sake. It's the company that has the most variety and the company that supports their products the longest that makes a console successful. The extra power of the PS4 is just the icing on the cake.

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TheOneEyedHound4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

You have the best life Because you are a gamer.

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-Alpha4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Xbox One= Xbox One

Though, the irony of seeing people's attitude take a 180 on some topics is funny to see, considering how some arguments that once worked this gen no longer work for next gen and vice versa.

dangert124700d ago

Don't know what the heck the author is thinking, I enjoy my PS3 alot and wanted one from day but couldn't afford one, I never remotely wanted an Xbox One but further Information revelation by microsoft further disgusted me now I am Chronically sick of MS and their XBOX's bar the Original

glennco4699d ago

The PS3 was marketed as a blu-ray player for the first year. When it wasn't selling it had an ace up its sleeve of being the only firmware upgradeably blu-ray player at the time. Blu-ray was launch as incomplete hardware, and as such the early BD players never had the ability to be upgraded to BD2.0 which bought in extra web features among other things.

No_Limit4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

PS3 = My offline gaming system for a selected few PS exclusives and my Blu Ray player.

Xbox One = My Day One purchase in November and will be my primary gaming system for Next gen!

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nRicosS4699d ago

Xbox360 = My offline gaming system for two exclusives (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon)

PS4 = My Day One purchase and will be my primary gaming system for Next gen!

XD

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot17d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle17d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7717d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7722d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300022d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7222d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit22d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania22d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit22d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0722d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr22d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr22d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9522d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7222d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7222d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket22d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm22d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde22d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_22d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted22d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit22d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT22d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers22d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14922d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0722d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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