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Microsoft thought they owned Donkey Kong

According to former Rare employee and “Conker’s Bad Fur Day” director, Chris Seavor, Microsoft mistakenly thought they owned the Donkey Kong franchise after they bought Rare.

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gamer424718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

This makes me appreciate the fact that we're getting another donkey kong country from Retro even more. Because if microsft did end up owning DK, we wouldn't be seeing much of him.

UNGR4718d ago

You know that how exactly? DK is a huge franchise, Microsoft would milk it if anything.

Jagsrock4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

@UNGR
He knows because Banjo-Kazooie.

gamer424718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

Banjo-Kazooie was a big franchise as well, but we don't see much of them now do we? Except for a game that left a majority of fans disappointed, Microsoft hasn't taken advantage of any of Rare's major Ips. Killer Instinct is a step in the right direction, but whether it's good or not is yet to be known.

FlyingFoxy4718d ago

Well they milked Halo, which wasn't even special in the first place.. already has more sequels than Half Life or Doom.

husomc4718d ago

They'd make a Donkey Kong & Master Chief save the world game

SilentNegotiator4718d ago

Darn, I was really hoping to see "Donkey Kong: Forced XBL and Kinect Features, and Bolts"

/s

Thank God Nintendo retained that IP.

blacktiger4718d ago

He knows because Killer Instinct. My favourite game of all time became my graveyard. Or at least forgotten :(

abzdine4717d ago

Soon they will think that they own Zelda.

Facepalm

slaton244717d ago

ok look how long for killer instinct it took missing a whole generation just to finally do a game...I think donkey kong would have been shelved because so many gamers on 360 were mostly into shooters I may be wrong but its my opinion.

southernbanana4717d ago

@Flying fox. That is the most ridiculous comment I have read on here in a while..

karl4717d ago

im sorry but the only one who can make a donkey kong game is nintendo..

it needs certain magic that only nintendo has...

Shane Kim4717d ago

@karl

To be honest though, every DK game worth playing and wich became popular has been made by rareware. The 80's Nintedo DK games are pretty mediocre,.

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LackTrue4K4718d ago

im not even a fan of Donkey Kong, but im glad they did not get them.....what a bunch of morons! lol...

thebigman4718d ago

Rare isn't even developing KI, it's being outsourced to another company. Rare will never be the company they were

Smashbro294717d ago

Miyamoto made up a generic gorilla but the DK we know today that fights crocodiles for bananas and wears a tie was made by Rare.

thecurseddevil4718d ago

lol.
they would have made a kinect donkey kong.

Syntax-Error4717d ago

How many Kinect games did you see @ E3?

Blachek4717d ago

That Wii Bongo version of Donkey Kong was a ton of fun

itBourne4717d ago

Microsoft isnt even letting Rare do the Killer Instinct game either. Lol poor rare, altough Im sure at this point rare is just a name, I cant imagine most of the original employees have stayed there.

BDSE4717d ago

None of them are there.

Syntax-Error4717d ago

Seriously? No one from the original Rare is there. They gave it to a new team that was ambitious and hungry. Rare had a shot and look what they did to Perfect Dark Zero. They just didnt have what it took to be what they were. Some developers regress and Rare was one of them. Killer Instinct took a long time because of legal issues, it wasn't because of MS. When MS was granted the IP the first thing they did was secure the domain name.

Veneno4717d ago

As ridiculous as that is, my xbot buddy thinks you can download mario games from xbox live and he believes Microsoft own EA. I try my hardest to educate him but I think he likes deluding himself.

jeffgoldwin4717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

Maybe he's thinking all of his Ron Jeremy videos are Mario irl.

It's a me MARIO: http://ronjeremy.com/

HonestDragon4717d ago

Can't say you don't try. He isn't the only Xbox owner to think Mario is available on the 360.

wastedcells4717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

They must of over paid for rare then if they thought DK was part of the deal lol. I joke. Did they think they got golden eye too.

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DarkBlood4718d ago

HA lol

As the terminator said in the gunshop "Wrong"

Enemy4718d ago

Well, they do own Killer Instinct, which for some reason "adapted" the same exact art style from Street Fighter 4.

sAVAge_bEaST4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

yea, but donkey kong is a totally different beast.
born in the arcade by nintendo, -gave birth to mario, and the princess.
This is Nintendo[s baby, and how M$ thought they could just buy it ,, is hilarious,.
(rare developed KI)

Gamerchik874718d ago

Your hilarious lol are u on this site all day?? Are u getting paid by sony to rag on M.S all day? U have something negative to say on just about every subject that has to do with M.S or u will find a way to involve M.S into your comments lol CRAZY!!

InTheLab4718d ago

@gamerchik

Until MS earns back the respect of gamers, that deserve every bit of static they receive. They have accomplished nothing in this industry with third and last place finishes for a few console gens but are somehow arrogant enough to try and screw over loyal customers. The last few months has shown the world that MS is a s$$$ company that throws piles of cash at problems instead of fixing them and is willing to inconvenience consumers at every turn.

After the xbone, ALL MS hate is justified.

As for the topic, MS did what they always do. Drop a huge chunk of cash and hope for the best.All they got in return is Conker and a depleted Rare that's really in name only.

Imalwaysright4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

Donkey Kong was the 1st platformer ever made and it is without any doubt one of the most influential and revolutionary games ever made. Donkey Kong's legacy is much bigger than just Mario or Peach. Donkey Kong is the "father" of every platforming game ever made.

sAVAge_bEaST4718d ago

w0e , calm down there REP.manager. , I'm just keeping it real,,
not my fault. M$ makes daily mistakes.

b3ast4718d ago

gamerchik is there anything good to say about MS? and WTF has DK to do with Sony, you must feel threaten you silly fangirl!

glennco4717d ago

One exec!?! Surely not even a rabid fanboy can delude themselves into thinking one naive exec equals an entire company. You are delusional like any other fanboy. This site is getting unbearable.

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Darrius Cole4718d ago

Donkey Kong is the first appearance of Mario. Anyone who thought that Microsoft could possibly have bought it should not be working in the Xbox division of Microsoft.

Syntax-Error4717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

What does Donkey Kong have to do with Mario? Just because Mario was in the original game has nothing to do with the character Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong can be sold without Mario you dummy. If Rare bought the Donkey Kong IP and MS bought it from them then DK would be owned by MS. Learn something. Did you see Mario in Donkey Kong Country? No, so why would one have anything to do with the other? How old are you? It wasn't MS that thought they owned DK, it was some idiot thinking they did because of Rare's name on the DKC poster. Same can be said when morons in here make dumb assumptions

callahan094717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

@Syntax-Error

His point wasn't that Nintendo couldn't sell the Donkey Kong IP without selling Mario, it was that they WOULDN'T! Donkey Kong was Nintendo's first major successful release in the video game industry and it is one of the most iconic games and IPs of all time. Anybody who thought Nintendo would sell that IP without doing a complete firesale of the entir company's assets was being delusional.

Syntax-Error4717d ago (Edited 4717d ago )

Now you're over-thinking the comment. NOWHERE in his comment did it say what you said. He said "DK is the first appearance of Mario.." He didnt mention anything about DK being Nintendo's first major hit. Stop thinking for someone else and worry about why you're sounding like a fanboy trying to sugarcoat his ignorance. Also, you don't know what they would do concerning an IP. Miyamoto wasn't part of DKC and Rare made the game NOT Nintendo, so don't think Nintendo is exclusive with its IP's

yewles14718d ago

This has got to be a joke...

PeaSFor4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

after all, the douche majornelson also said that MGS5 was XBONE exclusive...... so yeah....

that guy is something special....really easy to detest as you can see http://youtu.be/yWfJQAI42t0...

christian hour4717d ago

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PeaSFor4717d ago

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badboy7764718d ago

yewles1 I'm just glad they don't!!!!

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio30d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing30d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9230d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit30d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing30d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9230d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay32d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn233d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn232d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown33d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay32d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay32d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac32d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger33d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300033d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde33d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde32d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7534d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_32d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.