This is exactly what MS is scared of. People associate GTA with the PlayStation brand. It's going to take lots of advertising dollars on their part to break through this.

"and when you combine GTA IV with MGS 4 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, all the exclusive content that we've got going forward, I think that goes from tipping point to shoving point for consumers who are on the fence, wondering what platform should I buy. I think the clear exclusive message that we have is that the PS3 is where, not only do you get Grand Theft Auto, but you'll get MGS, you'll get Gran Turismo and these are also brands that have moved hardware units. It's the elite of the elite products that actually enable hardware to be sold with software and we'll have three of them."

100% agree. I wonder if he means, in the last part of that quote, that we'll see a GTA4 bundle in the same way that we see a MGG4 and a GT5:P bundle? If so, this will simply re-enforce to people that GTA is a PlayStation brand. Not true, of course, but perception is reality.

And whoever took my bubbles, give them back.

the fact remains that episodic content does matter to some people, and those are the people who will buy the 360 version. i was close to being one of those people myself (preference for Dualshock 3 won out over DLC). i don't necessarily think episodic content will sell systems, but it will sway current owners of both systems. fess up Sony. yeah, you got GT5 Prologue and MGS4, but you lost a wee-bit with GTAIV.

Sony's jealousy is rampant.

The episodic content.. Isn't it $40? Lol.

They also downplayed the significance of the same day release of the title and deals between the other parties.

Downplaying a major expansion(s) to one of the biggest series in history sounds like sour Grapes. I'm sure hardocre GTA fans will ignore the rhetoric.

Sony being sony, maybe next they'll say the 360 getting 3 times more jrpgs than them isnt a big issue either lol sony is pathetic. I also remember sony saying the release of halo3 wasnt a big issue and that it wont move consoles, when will they ever learn

This content will only be available on the fall, and based on 1up yours it won't be cheap, i assume 30+ dollars. With that kind of money, 50m, you could buy another studio or game another game. It will move sales for the 360, but this is feel almost one of those pre-order and get some stuff free, expect you pay for the stuff later.

Really depends on the price in combination with the content.

If they are gonna charge wayyy too much, I wont bother with it.

If it's just 1200 points orso for a LOT of new content (maybe new main character for a whole new storyline, set in the same city ofcourse, and new side-characters and voices etc etc), I will probably get it.

But if I feel it's a rip-off, obviously I wont.

Also not sure yet if I'll go for the PS3 version or the 360 version. I'll wait for the reviews, and whichever version is better, I will buy. I really dont care about one console over the other, I just want the best version of a game on whatever system.

this content comes out it will be unattractive

weeeeeeeell......

this one is highly debatable of course, but of course only time will tell

i can only say that $50mil was an unnecessary expense, M$ will NOT see benefits that overcome this cost

but i guess they had to do something to counter the whole "GTA= Playstation" mentality

i just think a strategy that focused more on marketing would've prospered better (see Halo 3), which is surprisingly not as loud as per M$ standard- for example, i have yet to see a single ad detailing the exclusive content or anything like that

the casual gamer (the key factor in the turnout of this battle) is not aware that buying a 360 will grant them access to bonus content- some may have been tipped off by gamer friends, but it's not mass-market

and we're only a month away from launch

@TheHYPOCRITE

are you kidding me? please tell me you didn't just accuse me of predicting stuff, PLEASE!!

have you had amnesia recently?

do you remember the mountain of (BS) predictions you made? like HD-DVD winning and stuff like that

i mean hell, in every LBP article your comment is always like "LBP will definitley come to the PSP, DEFINITLEY"

im sorry, but you have just made a fool of yourself

aaaanyway- no i don't know for sure that M$ spent $50mln, BUT after hundreds of sites, mags, analysts, blogs and now Sony, have said without M$ denying it- im pretty sure that's the case

and sorry dude- i know you like to think that every casual will buy the 360 because it's cheaper, but there are other factors to think about that are arguably more important (brand recognition, other much-loved franchises like GT and God of War, persuasive friends etc etc)

HD-DVD was cheaper, and look how that turned out

but my main point is- that was pretty effing hypocrtical mate

I've never beat 100% of any GTA game. That DL content better be f'ing good, to make people buy it. GTA games are like huge in content out of the box. If this one is light on content, we'll know why. ;)

This dl content won't be as great as you people think, it won't be a SA. It took them at least a year cycle to make SA. So, it will be from April to around September to they to make this content, assuming they use their entire staff to make it, because they have more project to do after GTA4 release. I won't downplay it but i won't hype it.

microsoft is putting WAY too much on the line for some simple episodic content, i know 11 people with 360s (all of them have halo 3) and only 2 of the 11 people actually purchased the map pack back in December

3.5 -
Um the 360 just had a price drop in the uk and it's still getting outsold by the ps3.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

The 360 also needs a price drop in the U.S too.

maybe so i don't want to sound like im tagging along with this but, if you look at it, GT5pro sold out on blu ray via pre-orders down there, and not to mention the current promotions for the impending release of MGS4 is going strong at the moment so yeah MS's market is really the U.S when you really come to think of it. not to mention i hear they keep on having hardware issues couple that with their series of ongoing shortages, or so they claim.

so while a price drop is very intriguing i might add, the ps brand as a whole keeps growing in those areas by the hundreds. heck a good chunk of sony's game studios are European as well, so.... its as if people like games that come from their land like them wipeouts, getaways, singstars,buzz's and many more that are brew from there.

now im not saying Europe is like japan by any means just saying that it seems to me like sony's got a lot of history in this particular market like they do so in japan as well. as for the US ms has most of the games that most US gamers are well accustomed to playing so they deliver well and sell units accordingly.

just my opinion thats all.

Ok you dont care about episodic content? dont buy it! this is simple Sony damage control, MS would say the same thing if Sony had any upper hand.

But to dismiss the fact entirely that SOME people would buy one version over the other due to added content is naive. Sure most might not care, but to SOME it will make the difference. Add that on top of a lower console price, and it CAN affect game sales. Deny that all ya like, it just makes you a fanboy.

EDIT: Grats on disagreeing, a few might buy 360 cuz of DLC. Cant deny that fact. lol

If you don't mind paying for cutscenes, by all means go ahead....

I'm getting it for 360 just because my brother is getting it for 360, so we can play online together. Other than that, I'd just as soon get it on PS3. I already know for a fact that I won't be buying any downloadable content.

LOL You can buy another game like Saints Row 2 or Mafia 2. and GTA IV is full of missions. Imagine you beat GTA san andreas and you wanna do more missions. Isn't that disgussting ? LOL DLCS are just extra missions and it's confirmed.

PS3 FTW brothaz ! Rockstar could do more on the PS3 because of HD and Blu-ray and Cell

You know somethings wrong when a company gets ridaculed for offering more to gamers.

This logic of *less is more/better* - *more means putting way too much into this* is a sign of great envy and nervousness beyond anything I'v ever seen.

Most people given the choice" assuming they're making the leap to next-gen on this game alone will buy the better version end of story.

MS and Sony are very different. MS throws huge sums of money to get people to buy stuff but Sony bundle stuff together and rely on the brand.

is'nt scared of anything Themart.

MS's biggest game halo3 did'nt stop the ps3 from selling more in 2007 and it did'nt stop the ps3's momentum.

WHAT IS A MULTIPLATFORM GAME THAT IT'S SERIES WAS BORN ON THE PLAYSTATION GONNA DO? NOTHING.

MGS4 and GTA4 far outweighs two DLC episodes.

Its as simple as that.

They got to have some hope!!! ;-D
They got that and Gears 2 and thats it for this year!!!
THATS PATHETIC! ;-D
(p.s xBot Slaves please don't print your up and coming games list because there just full of 3rd rate P.C ports!!!) ;-D

I remember Jack Trenton saying at E3 07' that Sony will get the "Next Big Thing" from Rockstar. And that it wasn't L.A. Noire OR GTA 7....lol :) So that might potentially be 3 Rockstar exclusives for PS3? You never know...

You guys are tools. If DLC is so bad then why are Guitar Hero and Rock Band cleaning house? Are you saying that MS paying $50mln for goodies is dumb? Did that $50mil come out of your pocket? Nope. So what's the big deal? You guys are paying $39 bucks for GT5 Pro but paying for 10hrs of DLC is stupid right?

Tools.

The PS3 doesn't need just one game to be successful.
The PS3 has LOADS of brilliant games coming out(to long to list)
So this little GTA4 DLC(whatever it is, as no one knows yet do they???)won't kill off the PS3!
;-D

That DLC sure as hell isn't going to be worth the $50 million MS spent on it, thats for sure.

I'd buy episodic content..too bad..

@TheMART at Xboxkings
14.1 -
So you can see in the future?

You have cleaned your crystal ball?

You know 100% for sure that MS has spend 50 mln. dollars?

Do we know how things will be in terms of sales of hardware and software with GTA on the 360?

Nope. Casual gamer is not aware? Well what if MS has some commercials upcoming within a few weeks telling that? I think every GTA fan around, casual or not, that buys a console for this game, will read into it.

Casual console buyers don't even pay attention to GTAIV. They pay attention to the cheapest console. And that's not the PS3

so what's your point?....... i mean here a question for you what happens after all this GTA4 hype finally fades away? i mean its not this game is completely exclusive to the 360 so i cant care less now if it were than i would be worry, but please do tell us what next? gears 2 at the end of the year? ninja gaiden 2? which is pretty much the same as the last one.

what you fail to realize is that after the whole GTA4 fiasco fades like how halo 3's fiasco did soon right after COD4 knocked on its door steps. there isn't much for you to than come here to brag about or is there? and who's to say that a year or too down the road when this becomes irrelevant i wouldn't be surprise if rockstar releases these episodes on the ps3 version or for the pc as well is that simple my friend is not that special. believe me i don't look at GTA4 as the end of all console war game but a small significant product thats all, everything dies out within a month or two after its release trust me. heck i give ms all its credit i see some gems here and there that are worth a look, you know you guys got Ninja gaiden 2, too human, and gears 2 at the end of the year which is good.

but why should ps3 owners feel offended by add-ons to one multi-platform game? when they are looking beyond that one ip as well?
you know haze,MGS4/MGSO,tekken 6,white knight chronicles,Socom:confrontation ,wipeout HD, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2pacific, The agency, Littlebigplanet,Killzone 2,8 days,GT5pro,Valkrya,Coded arms assault and few others until next year arrives with a few more like God of war 3, wardevil, final fantasy 13,GT5,Rogue galaxy 2, Syphon filter,Twisted metal,Uncharted 2 cuz you and i know its coming as well as the already confirm heavenly sword 2, heavy rain,Getaway 3,and ofcourse a few more as well not to say that MS wont have their game neither. but i mean why should we make a big deal of that? sure if we had the content instead i would imagine you guys be like nah its not important while you probably hear blu ray remarks in the space. look in the all this GTA4 fiasco is, is just that, nothing more.

you act as if, say Microsoft pays you to throw garbage out there about other companies and their products, i mean what have sony done to you that could be as bad as your stupid comments?

honestly i don't like Microsoft personally but even i learn how to accept them in the same circle as sony and ninty, i mean they introduce the world to great online gaming and halo and thats a good thing, sony has turn what was just a gaming market into a full entertainment business and brought along some of the best franchises to the table as well and even you got to love that.

2 big games NOW are better then 1.5 big games for xmas

I predict 1 zillion agrees and 1 kazillian disagrees

Its the idea that this dlc will affect sales in some way which it wont and cause a huge numbers of 360s to be sold over ps3s which wont happen and never will happen not with GTA. Thats what this interview was about its not about bashing the dlc saying its going to be worthless and shyt its just saying wont make a difference to the majority of the consumers looking to buy GTA that currently dont have 360 or ps3.

Sony is crying Sour Grapes. Yeah DLC isn't important but they are Pushing DLC on their PSN games. Sony you didn't pony up now you are crying that GTA 4 is going to sell more on the 360! Hahahahahhahahahahahhahahhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhahhahahahahhahahahahh ahahahahahahahhahahaa

Let Xtards dream

If it is no big deal then why even comment? They comment because they know it's going to matter and believe me you dont stay in business as long as MS has just throwing money away without a plan. MS knows how much money they can recoupe and they would not have invested in the DLC if they did not see a value.
I will expect more of this talk from the fishheads as the release of GTA gets closer.

360 GTA IV >>>>>>(x1000 ) PS3 GTA IV

This is exactly what I've been saying - the core GTA game is more than enough content for most players so why should we expect them to care about DLC?

Simple fact is that both xbox360 and PS3s will get the chance to play what is looking to be a very nice game.

I don't think that for 98% of people the prospect of DLC really plays a large part in if they are going to buy the game.

I for one have a somewhat dislike the way DLC content seems to be a justifyable reason for releasing updates that would be typically free elsewhere.

Question is how much is this DLC going to cost?. Also Y hasn't MS lowered the price of the 120GB HDD to prepare for this content. The standard 13GB isnt enough space for anything.

is indeed important to SOME people, but my question is, is the Episodic Content enough to entice $50 million PLUS people to get it?

as a Playstation and GTA fan, i have to say that the initial helpings of GTA games is more than enough. the only GTA game i completed was GTAIII, and i've been playing the series since the original on the Playstation.

i STILL have yet to finish San Andreas (i'm 75 missions in, only 44.5% complete).

i won't be able to complete it before IV comes out. the point i'm trying to make is that, while i think extra content for games is great, GTA is such a massive experience overall, that you can play the game for *MONTHS on end and not have discovered everything.

i've just recently started playing around with the girlfriend mechanic in San Andreas, and going around to bars playing pool and arcade games, and gambling in Casinos. i've had the game since it's *LAUNCH, and i've yet to see and do everything. i've yet to explore every nook and cranny in this game.

why? for a few reasons.

1. Time - i just don't have the time to explore everything
2. Other games - San Andreas isn't the only game in the world. in the interrim, i've had Odin Sphere, God of War 2, FFXII, Rogue Galaxy, MGS3, RE4, etc, a bunch of games that demanded my attention just as much as San Andreas.

so the real issue is, looking at all of the titles hitting the PS3 this calendar year, WHY, as a Playstation 3 owner, would i want MORE GTAIV, when i'm going to be too busy to enjoy it?

this year alone, i'll be playing:
GT5: Prologue (i've decided i'll pick this game up)
Haze
MGS4

all within three months of one another, not including GTAIV in April

then

Killzone 2
Little Big Planet
Motorstorm 2 (i'll, at the least, borrow it from a friend or rent it)
Resistance 2
Infamous
SOCOM (i may give it a try)
Star Wars: TFU
Lego Batman
Lego Indiana Jones
Prototype
Eternal Sonata

and so many more i can't even *THINK of them right now, and that's just my Playstation 3 purchases!

360:
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Ninja Gaiden 2 (i may give this one a try)
Too Human
Fable 2

that's a lot of games to play through in the 9 months remaining in this year (and i still excluded PS2 and PSP games. it's too overwhelming to think about; *sigh* the hardships of owning more than one system...).

i love GTA with a passion, but it's not going to dominate my gaming life, therefore, DLC gives me more of a headache than a rush of excitement.

don't get me wrong. i think DLC is GREAT, just not great for me, at least when it comes to GTAIV.

i like DLC for games like Warhawk and Folklore, because they add to the game in a significant way.

with Warhawk, we get new maps, vehicles, and weapons. considering that it's an online game, and you play it with other people. that makes sense to me.

with Folklore, the game is only 15 hours, so DLC adds game length, and new creatures and costumes, as well as new quests.

GTAIV, by itself, will take at the least, 100 hours to do and see EVERYTHING. not to mention that it will have a substantial online mode that will probably add countless more hours to the experience. i ask again, WHY do we need to add to that already ginormous package (as a complete aside, i can't believe i typed in "ginormous," and didn't get that red underline letting me know it's wrong. is "ginormous" a real word now? what the hell??)?

i guess for those gamers that will be playing NOTHING but GTAIV this year, the promise of DLC is wonderful.

for everyone else, however (and this includes the casual/average gamer), we'll be too busy playing all the other awesome games coming out this year, and GTAIV will be an afterthought by the end of this year, only to be played for a little bit when you are killing some time. a lot of the reason why i didn't complete San Andreas sooner, is because i didn't do the missions a lot of the time. i'd be heading for one, but then i'd see something interesting off in the distance, and take a detour. a detour that usually lead to 30 or more minutes of crazy, and completely random awesomeness.

by the time i finished with the detour, i completely forgot about what mission i was actually supposed to be heading to, and would just drive around more and have fun until i got tired of playing and turned the game off.

and we still don't know WHAT, exactly, the DLC is for GTAIV on the 360. if it's just missions, then no thanks, as i doubt i'll finish the missions that COME WITH the game. but if it's, say, new and more fun multi-player modes, and granted the multi-player is fun for GTAIV, then that's something else, and i'd give it a try.

true.

question...can both Sony and MS release GTAIV in a bundle? or is there some sorta legal doohickey that keeps the other hardware manufacturer from doing that?

how are they going to sell the
dlc to xbox arcade owners?streaming?
they seem to be pretty good at talking
about that.maybe they'll just abandon all form of physical
storage and proceed with live digital distribution.

I stil don't think this DLC is really going to help Microsoft out as much as they ever will think.

To be honest....I never did see DLC+[enter any console game here!] giving anyone a huge boost in sales.

lol sony are pssys

im sure everyone will buy it, only retarded fangirls wont.

100 hours single player.
infinite hours multiplayer.
thats enough for me thanks.

Well I can see that dlc is worth something, but no gamers will fight or die over it. I can also see that MS has a large sum of cash sitting at their disposal, and that they are trying to buy everyone out and throwing the money around like toliet paper

@TheMART at Xboxkings
14.1 -
So you can see in the future?

You have cleaned your crystal ball?

You know 100% for sure that MS has spend 50 mln. dollars?

Do we know how things will be in terms of sales of hardware and software with GTA on the 360?

Nope. Casual gamer is not aware? Well what if MS has some commercials upcoming within a few weeks telling that? I think every GTA fan around, casual or not, that buys a console for this game, will read into it.

Casual console buyers don't even pay attention to GTAIV. They pay attention to the cheapest console. And that's not the PS3

so what's your point?.......you do realize every ps3 is also a blu ray which mean if sony ever decides to price drop their machine by a 100 bucks or so, a day prior this game or a month after it, MS's move would only seem desperate and at the same time worthless to a certain degree, i mean here is a question for you, what happens after all this GTA4 hype finally fades away? i mean its not like this game is completely exclusive to the 360 so i can care less, now if it were to say.. be exclusive to that platform, than i as a ps3 owner would be worry, but since thats not the case, please do tell us what's next? gears 2 at the end of the year? ninja gaiden 2? which is pretty much the same as the last one. maybe a little fable 2? hopefully this one can atleast be comparable in length to say...oblivion, cuz the last one was not much of an effort if you ask me. but...

what you also fail to realize is that after the whole GTA4 fiasco fades like how halo 3's fiasco did soon right after COD4 knocked on its door steps. there isn't much for you to say..than come on here to brag about or is there? and who's to say that a year or too down the road when this becomes irrelevant i wouldn't be surprise if rockstar releases these episodes on the ps3 version or for the pc as well is that simple my friend is not that special. believe me i don't look at GTA4 as the end of all console war game, but rather as a small significant product thats all, everything dies out within a month or two after its release trust me. heck look at bioshock and halo 3, i give ms all its credit i do see some gems here and there that are worth a look, you know you guys got Ninja gaiden 2, too human, and fable 2 and gears 2 at the end of the year which is good.

but why should ps3 owners feel offended by add-ons to one multi-platform game? when they are looking beyond that one ip as well? knowing sony too well they don't like nor believe in making moves of investments of these kinds as they don't see any significance to them, and heck i don't blame them for not. instead sony would just secure a one year exclusivity over this game like they have done so in the past, but you see this time around they prefer investing in their own properties over 3rd parties, you see sony has a bigger studio than say both MS and nintendo at the moment so unlike MS it doesn't really need to reallied on heavy 3rd party support. while there are a handful of 3rd party games exclusively on sony's platforms if you look carefully sony's got more games of their own internal studios. their focus is mostly on their own, the birth of new, and the growth of their own, not pocket picking for multi-platform games,or certain 3rd party companies cough techmo* lol know what i mean? everything they have dished out since the launch of the ps3 was mainly their own, and while some investments may not have worked out in their favor some did, but the philosophy have always remainded the same. Sony has more to offer than MS does in the old, current and new. most of the games that MS has without halo, forza, or fable and maybe those rare games, are all mainly 3rd party owned properties. below you will see that sony's got quite the load when it comes to internal properties and franchises.

the legend of the dragoon,wild arms, hot shots golf,MLB 08 the show, Ape escape, Syphon filter, twisted metal, Socom,Dark cloud, Granturismo, wipeout,Getaway, Medevil, Pursuit force,Tourist trophy,Roque galaxy,Folklore,lemmings, the eye of judgment, Genji, Untold legends, Everquest online,Field commander,The agency,Heavenly sword, by theory ninja but sony property non of the less,Killzone, ATV of road fury, Motorstorm,Singstar,Buzz,God of war, Intelligent i.Q,Blasto, Warhawk,Kinetica,Flow,Lair by factor 5 owned by sony, Uncharted, Resistance, Jak n daxter, Ratchet n clank, Sly cooper, Infamous, white knight story: chronicles,Afrika, 8days, War of the monster,Echochrome,Piyotama,bl ast factor,calling all cars, Jet moto,Eyedentify..and a few new ones they are currently working on, Tears of blood and the Protector are small examples of that and im pretty sure it doesn't end there my friend..

like ive said before and ill say it again, to Sony this time around its not about getting extra content or exclusivity on some 3rd party game to them is all about investing on their own properties and delivering new and exiting experiences in the process, obviously there are going to be a handful of 3rd party exclusive ips as well, to give people a choice and a variety of games. again all these are risks which do work out in the end while other don't fare so well but in the end the strategy remains. and that my friend is something MS should be doing instead of... say spend load of money for a time exclusive or brag about some price drop or some content for some multi-platform game?

Again...why should ps3 owners feel offended by add-ons to one multi-platform game? when they are looking beyond that one ip as well?

you know haze,MGS4/MGSO,tekken 6,white knight chronicles,Socom:confrontation ,wipeout HD, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2pacific, The agency, Littlebigplanet,Killzone 2,8 days,GT5pro,Valkrya,Coded arms assault and few others until next year arrives with a few more like God of war 3, wardevil, final fantasy 13,GT5,Rogue galaxy 2, Syphon filter,Twisted metal,Uncharted 2 cuz you and i know its coming as well as the already confirm heavenly sword 2, heavy rain,Getaway 3,and ofcourse a few more as well are all coming?

not to say that MS wont have their games neither. but i mean why should we make a big deal of that? sure if we had the content instead i would imagine you guys be like nah its not important while you probably hear blu ray remarks in the space. look in the all this GTA4 fiasco is, is just that, nothing more.

you act as if, say Microsoft pays you to throw garbage out there about other companies and their products, i mean what have sony done to you that could be as bad as your stupid comments?

honestly i don't like Microsoft personally but even i learn how to accept them in the same circle as sony and ninty, i mean they introduce the world to great online gaming and halo and thats a good thing, sony has turn what was just a gaming market into a full entertainment business and brought along some of the best franchises to the table as well and even you got to love that.

people are making too big of a deal about this extra content, we still dont even know what it is. for all we know it could be missions that seem boring once we get to the end of the game, or it could be very awsome content that prolongs the life of the game. So until we all know its really not worth mentioning.

I really don't care about the game at all and i never did the previous versions either i like ps3 for metal gear 4, and all its other exclusives.

Sony can say whatever they want about this game sure its going to sell a lot but i think a lot of people are much more interested in the ps3 exclusives to come.

Its microsoft that needs this games help because this year is the year for ps3 and nothing is going to change that AND IT WILL STILL be the year for ps3 even without grand theft auto 4.

The PS3 version of GTA4 will sell more PS3 consoles than the Xbox 360 version. People who really want an Xbox 360 already got one...people really really want a PS3 and were waiting for a price drop, MGS4, GTA4, GT5, and Final Fantasy 13 and Killzone 2...and for bluray to win the war...Its all falling into place...its curtains for the Xbox 360....the wii is next...

i just cant wait to play the damned game!!

its simple yeah MS will gets its sales in, but the game itself isn't going to keep its fire forever to say keep people caring long after MGS4 arrives or other games behind it, so to me yeah its somewhat of a significance but as long i get the full story of the game and i can play it online with some friends i can care less really. the game is already a 100 hours long i think thats good enough for me ill take that.

now if it were to happen with a shooter like say COD4 than yeah i would probably freak a little because these game relied more on DLC than say a GTA game,

you make it sound as if the world is going to end because of this, im just being more realistic by simply asking what would happen after its hype dies down, like it has happen to many good games before it?

are we still going to be talking about this? and how long will it take for these to appear? let me guess when gears 2 and killzone 2 arrive? cuz that right there would just be too stupid of a move especially on xbox live where you pretty much got to pay a premium for these things my friend.

why the fuk would you even care what a xtard says . these people are fukin idiots that dont know shiiiii except HALO....anynody who cares what these fukin retarded azz people say is a fool themselve..Just dont respond to these retarded MFers and they wont have to say shiii anymore...I got to point where im saying ok you bought an xbot good for you , go fkin play halo because anything you mfers say is jibber jabber

" SCEA's Scott Steinberg tells GameDaily BIZ that only a very small percentage of gamers will even buy the episodic content for which MS "spent the GNP of several small Latin American countries."

LOL I just simply found that comment quite funny. Only time will tell if many people will know about this 360 episodic DLC and just how big it will be. Well I for one will not be bothered about it because I'm getting the PS3 version anyway, not too interested in DLC I just want the damn game!

30 - LOl sony does it again
Now the new content isn't important? so i guess rumble still isn't important also.

"WHAT IS A MULTIPLATFORM GAME THAT IT'S SERIES WAS BORN ON THE PLAYSTATION GONNA DO? NOTHING"

What exactly are you talking about these games were on the pc in the early 90's you idiot....as if something original could have come from sony.

so im the idiot? so this must mean anything done by Microsoft hasn't come from the pc? as well? and yes most of these games are done by sony and its peers whether birth on the pc or not look it up you retard. they are owned properties.

you are trying to sound like a marketing genius with this add-on? you got to be stupid to think this will end the console war or dent sony for more than say a month or two now that right there is stupid thinking.

and yes all these properties i've mention above my friend are sony owned, go ahead and do a research my friend. whether or not they are on a pc they are own by sony, which means sony invested in their creations and licenses my friend, sony COMPUTER entertainment i believe its called.

oh and the whole rumble thing we already know the story to that, sony doesn't really care all that much for rumble my friend, why if they did they would have solve their issue with immersion before the ps3 even launch so far its been almost two years and it sure doesn't look like to me that they care too much about this feature, but why finally bring this feature out? SIMPLE because whiners like you want the feature so what's a company to do, but to give to its costumers and developers what they want?

now i want to know why every 360 doesn't come equipped with a hard drive? even when the original one did? c'mon ms you got deeper pockets than sony.

whats with the triple A battery NEED for wireless controllers? yet you got to by a charger? how much those those cost now?

you might not need these but how about them 99 dollar wireless adapters?

whats with all the hardware issues? shouldn't this problem be fixed by now i mean the 360 its been around for ages now.

whats with that 150 mb limit impose to developers?

see, anyone can crap on any system or company my friend i was just simply stating the obvious, and MS in my opinion should start investing in their own game studios if its to be serious about he gaming market like it claims to be.

and no an add-on wont end life on earth im pretty sure that even in japan the ps3 wont get scratch. so im cool, besides this game is set to be a 100 hours long, so like i said before im good with that. and please stop calling people names.

and yes GTA4 will do its thing and ms will benefit, but believe me my friend is not the end of the world,

again is just my opinion.

who cares what that douchebag says... hes the same person that said " gears of war 3 will be on blueray disk for xbox 360"

I leave this website for the past 6 month's and all Hell has broken loose. This place is infested with The Sony Defense Force. How many multiple accounts do you Sony Sausage Smugglers need to take away everybodys bubbles? I seen some dude with 49 phantom disgree's in the "GamerZone".

Wake up Mods. This site is being ruined by all the Playstation Polesmokers. The "Bubble" system is broken, You need to require people to leave a comment when they take away bubbles or hit disagree.

I mean damn I went from 4 bubbles to 1 bubble in 2 days, so I left. Had to make me a new account like everyone else who isn't a Sony Scrotum Sniffer on this website just so people know I'm back.

I wonder how long it will take for them to reduce my bubbles this time...

The droids would be saying that microsoft is desperate.

Do we even care what Sony's PR says anymore. They have no credibility. Sounds like sour grapes.

The 360 has more consoles sold worldwide of course they will sell more copies of the game. The DLC is optional, but makes the 360 version more attractive. Plus when people go to buy a console with the game they will find the 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Game, set, and match.

These are the facts SDF, go "Wait Beyond" with your 4D imaginary friends somewhere else. Don't you have to go buy that tech demo that just got released. Something about a Prologue???

Thats right 360 owners get complete games. We get them on time. We get better graphics, better controls, better online, and spent less money for our console.

All I want to know is:

1) Whats in the DLC?

2) When its going to be out?

3) How much its going to cost?

Those people that own both consoles that won't get the 360 version KNOWING it's going to have more content. That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

"It's a Playstation brand."

Bullshyt. It started on the PC. I still have a copy.

"I like the Sixaxxis control better."

To each his own my friend.

"I don't want to pay for extra content."

So I take it you never bought DLC at all? Hope you don't own GHIII or RB.

"People are too stupid to know there is DLC so they'll get the PS3 version. It will sell more in Europe."

Yeah right. 360 is a household name in the states. It's killing the PS3 in sales. Don't give me this outsold crap when PS3 outsells 360 by 10 units WORLDWIDE. I don't give a rats @$$ about Europe or Japan. I'm in America buddy and only America counts to me.

The laughter continues. All I can say is all of you fanboys are gonna be shocked as shyt when you see what Microsoft is doing with GTAIV. You know Sony can't market for shyt. Microsoft markets their a$$ off. That's why you were able to buy Halo 3 in 7/11. You don't think they'll do the same for GTAIV?

As I've said before, it's a 3 console market and will stay that way until the next generation begins. There will be no world domination by Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. FACE THE FACTS!

This site has become a major league let down,
because of the hordes of ass sore Sony Ps3 scumbags.

I was considering making another account,but I figured.............fvck it......this site isn't worth it,
and also,why?
When the butt raped little multi account Ps3 fishheads will
just reduce my bubbles to rubble in a matter of 1-2 days.

But what this also tells me.....is that we(360 fans )have already won the war on the droids this gen.
I.E.....they have to lash out in anger by ganging up on non ps3 people
(snagging away bubbles....... a big group of chicken sh1ts) to
make themselves sleep better at night.
WHOOOOOAAH.......a truly hopeless bunch of ass wipes.
I never take away anyones bubbles......sheeesh.

But on a good note......welcome back 360 crusader.

THE DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT IS THE KEY TO THE SUPERIORITY OF THE 360s VERSION OF GTA4 .
SONY KNOWS IT AND THEY'RE FRICKIN TERRIFIED.
NO BUTTS ABOUT IT DROIDS.

FACT.

tom

brake this to you but if you think you will get a great download experience with the DLC for GTA IV you are sadly mistaking. Reason for me saying this: Microsoft's Xbox Live has a download limit. Don't know the exact limit but don't expect anything big, maybe a new person other then the main guy. As for the PS fans don't get your hopes up either if Sony is downplaying the DLC (they have more inside information than any fanboy on here) maybe its nothing to look forward to.(Please don't take any of my statements the wrong way it's not intended 4 that.)

What happened to my 5th bubble?!?!?! I'm not that bad. Jeez! :P

But the core/arcade 360 worries me more with this one.

Has nobody taken into account the 50 million is more than just paying for the content. M$ probably spent that much just for extra advertising of the DLC. You think if M$ signed a deal under the table for exclusive content anyone would care? Fack no, but when you hear they spent 50 mil, you start to think it might be something good.

Last gen M$ just had to get a foothold in the market. This gen they have to start taking a little market share from sony while expanding the market for themselves. So far their doing a great job of it.

And ovre 10million have xbox live...Now I am sure there is a very big amount of gta fans on the 360 and with live...Thats a LOT of money.

where I got I see GTA4 being advertised for both consoles along with "Exclusive Content for the 360" the better version.

i have a 360 and a ps3, and I'm getting gta for the ps3. I'm just used to the dualshock, and i like to be able to hear the dialogue over the jet engine fans and disk drive. my mates have 360s, and they dont care about downloadable content

I thought the episodic content was included with the 360 game.

GTA4 for 360 will outsell the PS3 version 2/1 easily and the DLC eps will be a huge success.

I associate the GTA franchise with the PC...maybe it's because I'm smarter than you.

he is absolutely correct. there is a TON of gaming here guys. MOST wont finish the core game so why in the h*ll would they buy the DLC. Not only that but who in their right mind buys a console for DLC to a game that already has around 85 hours of gameplay to it?

People will buy whatever version they want, but if MS think its going to get a lot of the ps2 user base from this DLC they are full of SH*T. People love the PS brand for more than GTA. They want to play GT, MGS, FF, KZ2, R2, LBP, GOW, and I can guarantee you they will want to watch bluray movies when they get an HD TV.

You do the math folks. The ps3 is a safer bet for the future, ps2 owners know that more than anyone else.

I love the Grand Theft Auto games!

if the DLC was exclusive to the PS3, and MS said this, this whole post would be different. Nothing but lies coming from most of the people on this site. If the PS3 was getting DLC, you PS3 fans would be excited, but since it is for the competition, it doesn't matter. Such bull gets spewed on this site, it's not even funny. I still remember when some PS3 fans were saying that the PS3 was getting DLC, and how excited a lot of them were, but when they found out that it was exclusive to 360, they start saying that it doesn't matter.

True fans of the series would want to play as much of the game as possible. The casual gamer who doesn't care much, and doesn't like to complete the side missions probably won't care. But is that saying the most PS3 fans are only casual gamers, or not real fans of the series? That raises a very valid question. I guess the stigma that the 360 is full of hardcore gamers might actually be a viable thought. Hmmm...., makes me wonder.

Why does every single PS3 owner lack the skill to actually complete a GTA and therefore not care about the DLC?

I hear you man, and I do understand what you are saying. But you need to realise and understand that gamers who own both consoles just wanna play it on a PS3 because of the long familiarity and attachment to GTA on the PS2 games and many people don't like playing on a 360 controller especially for GTA games and this plays a factor as to why two-console owners choose the PS3 version of GTA 4. The PS3 controller is what many of these guys prefer to play GTA 4. You might think this is all silly but this control pad issue really does matter to many gamers. We just have to see what this DLC is about before anybody get so excited, but in the meantime both versions of GTA are seemingly on the same level right now so even multi-console owners are not really inclined to care about DLC that much right now.

ps3 ftw!

Free Online + DS3 or SIXAXIS controller Will be wonderful when used for driving car or helicopter + PS3/GTA IV bundle + Home Lobby + DLC

honestly, the DLC wont be that great. just some more missions, and honestly... who actually plays every single mission and than wants more missions? GTA stories arent usually why someone pick up a GTA game, they pick it up to run around a massive city and destory stuff. yes eventually they might complete the main story and a few side missions, but who wants more missions honestly?

i would rather pay for new cars, islands and whatnot, not more missions.

For all you fanboys out there xbox and playstation I read your comments over this EPISODIC content with a lot of useless bickering. Most of you don't know the difference between DLC and EPISODIC content! DLC is adds items and maybe a level, or map here or there to a game. Episodic content is basically another game scaled down, to clarify a percentage of another whole game. Both the PS3 and XBOX 360 are getting DLC but only the XBOX 360 will be getting EPISODIC Content!

For all the sony fans i must say this you cannot downplay the importance of EPISODIC content. If you cannot comprehend this look at the Valve model for half-life 2, episode 1 and 2. Those are true examples of EPISODIC Content. That is why Microsoft banked 50mil on GTA IV it really doesn't have that much to do with Sony as many of you fanboys would like to think. This content is more of a digital distribution model for future games aka another version of STEAM but for a console. Not one sony fanboy can downplay how powerful and important STEAM is right now to the PC. Microsoft already has problems with disc space since they incorporated DVD9s opposed to HD-DVD/Blu-ray which has a larger capacity. This is a way for them to counter that problem.

For the XBox fanboys Don't argue with sony fans on the importance of the Playstation brand name. Why do you think there are so many more sony fanboys than any other system. People for the last 10-12 years have associated video games with playstation. The controller is also another major factor many people are accustomed to the dualshock/sixaxis design of controller, (I personally don't really like it but that is not a shot to sony i just have big hands and my thumbs bump each other when using both analog sticks.) Back to the point people will buy games just for playstation even if they are on other consoles. (Hence DMC4 to me it just felt right on PS3 over 360 so i got the ps3 version instead) but take the controller aspect with a grain of salt, because rockstar already stated they revamped the controls of GTA IV so it will not play exactly like the old GTA III style.

Casual gamers don't care about 360? what are you f!cking retarded, it's the casual gamers main choice! Such a diverse library of games it was the cheaper choice and still is. I don't think a casual gamer is gonna throw down 700 for a ps3 or 400 now it is. You're stupid, stfu you retarded ps3 fangirls.

In my opinion, the way Microsoft pushed so hard for the extra content deal with Rockstar is an act of desperation in order to maintain their user base in 2008/2009. Yes, GTA IV is shaping up to be a worthwhile (if not huge) game for PS3 owners but unlike the starving Xbox 360 community that so far in 2008 have been treated to a range of lackluster titles (which is set to continue until 2009 and beyond, with the exception of Gears 2), PS3 owners and Sony have the upper-hand as far as software is concerned with titles arriving in 2008/09 such as FFXIII, LBP, K2, RFOM 2, etc.

It makes me laugh that an Xbox 720 is in the works, Sony had the right idea of including future proof (to an extent) hardware when they designed the PS3.

Who would be disgruntled at the thought of having to buy an Xbox 720, say around autumn/fall next year?