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Japanese Gamers React to Xbox One Changes

Kotaku: "After a big ruckus, Microsoft decided to change its Xbox One online policy. In the West, there were a variety of reactions to this change—mostly positive. But what about in Japan?"

-Superman-4708d ago

"Still don't want one,"

Damage is done.

UNGR4708d ago

What damage? People were butt hurt for a couple weeks? No damage was actually done, kids are just acting like immature kids, nothing more.

JeromeNtheHouse4708d ago

@-Superman-

I'm good on xbox one man. This comin from a guy currently playing xbox, and have been on xbox live for 7 years. The damage is already done I think.

Not to mention, what's to stop them from adding some of those unwanted features back later on down the line anyway with a "mandatory update?"

nick3094708d ago

360 barely sold in japan, japan only likes nintendo and sony

vork774708d ago

when you said that i pictured family guys sean Connery

guitarded774708d ago

@ UNGR

The damage of trying to screw over their loyal customers for a better relationship (and by relationship I mean more money) with publishers. Now they're having to backtrack and do what they knew they should have done in the first place. They had and still have a PR nightmare... that's damage.

dale_denton4707d ago

don't scare the xbox trolls here with that comment, they only think xbox exists here in the states.

DragonKnight4707d ago

@UNGR: The fact that they changed their policies is proof that there has already been damage. Otherwise they wouldn't have changed them.

Haules4707d ago

"On website Amaebi, some were suspect about the changes. "Doesn't making these changes at the last minute," wrote one commenter, "mean they can add them back whenever?""

Exactly!

sAVAge_bEaST4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

---Microsoft---
- -Lies, Lies, cloudz /mirrors,. and more Lies..

They already said they don't need the gamers.. but now they are doing the One.Eighty

zeee4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

I am done too. After supporting MS for so long, I am done as well. I have 3 reasons:

1/ I can't trust their word anymore. They have lost their integrity.
2/ I can't stand the concept of always-connected Kinect
3/ MS was the first to jump on the PRISM train.

Never again MS. Never again!

By the way, I should let you all know that I game on both PS3 and Xbox 360 and I think Sony's got more software support than MS.

Supporting MS now feels more like getting back with a girl who cheated on you multiple times!

BABYLEG4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Guy above me is very dumb.

and nick, I'm glad Sony and Nintendo does well in Japan. Because the Xbox does great in US Canada UK and soon to dominate in china and brazil. Who needs the rest when you've got the biggest. It's the American way. If you're not popular somewhere, why waste resources there. Switch focus on other countries who may like your vision. Japanese and Americans are nothing alike, especially in our video game tastes. Only reason there's so many people playing Sony, Nintendo, sega consoles was because there was no American console maker yet. As soon as the first American console maker came in, the industry hasn't been the same. And it's been for the better. Apple and google are planning entertainment systems as well. In the next 7 years, the choice won't be MS vs Sony Vs Nintendo. It'll be MS vs Google vs Apple in the video game and entertainment race. Sony and Nintendo should just become really big software companies. THEY JUST CAN'T HANG

Entertainment consoles vs video game consoles.

Tyre4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

We see them for what they really are now. The 180 turn confirms it. No way to change this insight they have given the gamers. Damage is clearly done. They wanted to hijack our hobbies and the whole industry in their closed system and control all. They are still not truthfull or open about it. They are lying through their theeth. They do not give a shit about the gamers but still they pretend to do so. Irreversible damage, all by their own doing.

suicidalblues4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

@ babyleg

It's ironic that you wrote "the guy above me is really dumb", then went full retard in your next paragraph.

Nothing against the 360, but it seems like they had success in spite of themselves. Make units that die, people bought more. Charge for online, the public loved it. Used old tech for storage, well you get the idea...

I'm glad there's competition in the industry, it breeds innovation - I'm just saying the average company couldn't use this business model and survive.

badz1494707d ago

Japan is not even supported at launch, right? Or did that changed as well? Japan won't be getting the Xbone this year anyway

zeee4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Babyleg: Thanks for calling me a retard. It's rather reassuring and comforting when someone like you call me names. That tells me I am right :)

That and the fact that it's coming from a guy who has lost most of his bubbles even though they reset the bubbles like a week ago. Tells you the whole "who's the real retard" story.

indysurfn4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Okay at the start of this Microsoft fooled people by using terms. Like LEND/family/friends. Now they are being successful by using the term:
"offline game". Did you catch that, if you install a "off line game" then you will not be have restrictions, that is the condition. Watch

defins a "offline game" What if only one game has the label of offline game on it? Heck what percent of games don't have a component of

online to even the 360 games right now? Microsoft almost required it with few exceptions. If there is a term "offline game" as a condition.

Then that is a out, for for Microsoft to change nothing! Don't trust a company that keeeeeeeeeps making pot shots at your rights. And keeps

adding names like "offline games", otherwise Fooled you twice! Are you going to let that happen?

Microsoft qoute:An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games....If they where not trying to fool you it would read:An internet connection will not be required to play (any) Xbox One games. see the difference?

ChrisW4707d ago

OMFG... There are so many Sheep acting like butt hurt Xbots that it's pathetic! You're the ones that are getting MS to change, not the Xbots!!!

Sideras4707d ago

@UNGR Considering how disrespectful and arrogant they were last week and now take back everything they said and suddenly pretend to care about their customers would suggest that they are pretty damn butt-hurt if anything.
Was most amusing about this whole thing is that people like you would still support it.
I will never understand how you can be so goddamn blind.

FrightfulActions4707d ago

@UNGR

I see someone follows Fox news.

How is life inside your bubble?

Urusernamesucks4707d ago

Its japan. Damage was done after the ps3 and wii hit the market. Nothing has changed drm or no drm.

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Tony-A4708d ago

One person brought up a good point about how simple it was to just remove the restrictions.

I've seen one particular interview with Microsoft that told a slightly different story; how removing these restrictions are not where the future of the industry is heading and it wouldn't be that easy to just remove either way. Yet, a few days later, it's a done deal.

Now it's up to Microsoft to convince consumers that they wouldn't dare put it back on their console in the near future. They were misled and made to believe that DRM is here to stay and it's for the best, but suddenly are led to believe otherwise?

Consumers, and ESPECIALLY the devoted gaming public, are a brutal, unforgiving bunch. We are ones to know when we are being messed with and don't take kindly to it. Even worse is that we never forget a company's attempt to screw us over (online passes is a major example of that).

So this begs the question: as awesome as it is that they removed their restriction policies, would it have been more beneficial for them to have kept it? Sure, there was backlash, but which scenario would more likely take place? Would consumers not have bought a heavily restricted console? Or would they not buy one from a company that once tried to screw them over, lie in the process and expose their lies just a few short days later?

Cryptcuzz4707d ago

You win, I have been basically expressing the same concern about this, although you express it in a much more thorough and concise way :)

My main concern is, if they have easily and swiftly removed there restrictions and DRM, whose to say they cannot and will not impose it again down the line when they think they have found the correct solution to the original restrictions and DRM?

DVAcme4707d ago

I'm convinced that keeping their policies might have worked out more for Microsoft in the long run. They COULD have used the "we are the future" excuse and still gotten people to buy the system, but now with every decision they're going back on and imitating Sony with, they're just looking weaker and weaker and making people see Sony was right from the beginning.

Not only that, with the DRM policies and 24-hour online gone, now people will focus more on comparing the two systems based on money value and technical specs instead of policies, and realize that Sony is STILL ahead. And while Microsoft has been on damage-control mode, Sony hasn't needed to change a single thing about their business strategy, which must mean they're in a way better position to launch their system. It's impossible all the changes Microsoft is making are not costing them craploads of money and man-hours.

I'm predicting the XBox One's launch is gonna be VERY rocky.

Sayai jin4708d ago

Yeah no change and don't expect one. This may be the same for other countries as well.

MS will never fair well in Japan. After living there for 6 years and still communicating with several of my Japanese counterparts and friends...I know that the Japanese are have nation loyalty for the most part. They buy based on what they want like most consumer, but also base there preference on what is made in their country. The electronic and auto industry is the "bread and butter" in Japan and keeps them having one of the worlds best economies. There are few devices, cars, etc that the Japanese will buy that made outside of the country.

Godmars2904707d ago

So you're trying to present the nationalist argument?

Which is all but moot when considering that what most major manufacturing still isn't done in Japan is either in South Korea or China?

Hell, all our arguing only goes towards supporting Fox-Con and their slave wages and conditions.

Sayai jin4707d ago

I am not trying anything. I am simply making a informed comment based on my experience while I lived in Japan.

Most manufacturing is done in China by most countries, but actually look at the numbers of Japanese manufacturing in China. The two countries actually despise each other. The same goes for Korea (South included). Anyways, even if most of the manufacturing was done in China the products still have a Japanese brand name and is engineered in Japan. It's hard to understand until you get a deep understanding of their culture.

At last, even if they do not manufacturer their products in Japan...the sales and proceeds of the products still go to Japanese countries so it is not a moot point.

Yes the vile Fox-Con...I agree with you there.

rainslacker4707d ago

LOL. No basically their comments are pretty much the same things we're saying. All these "What Japan thinks" articles are just mirrors of this and other forums.

Muffins12234707d ago

Dose not matter lol....if it was 4 times more powerful than ps4 then they still wouldn't buy it lol

SonyPS44707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

MS will have a very difficult time recovering from their mess. If this thing won't sell more than a couple million (not including pre-order/launch sales) within the first two fiscal years they might as well take the Windows Vista approach and scrap the One, in it's place comes Xbox 4 and become the first 9th gen system. Then again that would be bad for PS4 and Wii U as they would become obsolete prematurely.

Donnieboi4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Japanese are too smart to trust greedy American Microsoft.

The Japanese sell u a product WORTH buying, and expect to get their riches via customer demand.

American's use capitalism to crush all competition, then add restrictions to force you to have no choice but to buy only their own products.

I love my country, but I don't love it's business practices. THAT is why most of the wolrd doesn't import our goods. And that's also why we have a lack of jobs in this country--if no one is buying our crap (not even us--we buy from the Japanese, Chinese, Indians, and Koreans) then how are we gonna have jobs?

American corporate greed ruins all creative art forms (and the subsequent jobs it would've created). Even non-creative jobs get cut for the sake of amassing more money for the CEO's own personal bank account.

fr0sty4707d ago

Japanese Gamer: "What is Xbox?"

pixelsword4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Japanese Gaming: "Don't worry about it."

fr0sty4707d ago

We're playing games due to Japanese gaming... They revived a dead market. It may not be what it once was, but they still put out some classics.

JsonHenry4707d ago

Why would anyone think that they would ever embrace something other than Nintendo and Sony?

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Blankolf4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

I think this quote pretty much sums the article

"Yesssssssssssssssssssss s. But, I'm getting a PS4."

MariaHelFutura4708d ago

Beating a dead llama is much more badass anyway.

pixelsword4707d ago

Yeah, they fart when you punch 'em.

Sideras4707d ago

Beating a dead llama after it spat in your face. How fitting.

linkenski4708d ago

Japanese people don't give a crap about the WestBox One

sashimi4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

They honestly don't care for it, as far as they are concerned its an overpriced inferior product compared to their own. Its not even made for them..

NihonjinChick4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

The problem is the Xbox rarely get games that appear to Japanese consumers. They don't have the influence in Japan to capture customers. There are tons of Japanese RPGs that are released on Sony consoles every year, most of them are in Japan only and will never reach state side.

Microsoft needs to replace everybody that works in the office in Tokyo. That branch has done nothing positive in that region. They should be working with some of those local Japanese developers. They need to do things and work on things that Japanese consumers like or want. What's the point of having a branch in Tokyo if you're not going to use it to reach those consumers effectively?

WeAreLegion4708d ago

Were you being racist by writing "appeal" as "appear"? If so...that's the best placed joke I've seen in months.

insomnium24707d ago

"Microsoft needs to replace everybody that works in the office in Tokyo"

They should replace both of them.

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-Foxtrot12d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7712d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7716d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300017d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7217d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit16d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania17d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit16d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0716d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr17d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr17d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9517d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7217d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--17d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7217d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket17d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm17d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde17d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_17d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted17d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit16d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT17d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers17d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14917d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0716d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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