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Hey Microsoft. We want DRM back.

If you haven’t heard already, MS have back-tracked on their policies that previously blocked used games and required the Xbox 1 to be connected to the internet once every 24 hours. Surely this a good thing you might ask? Well, as it turns out, not necessarily.

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vishant1014757d ago

If there was some sort of indication that games were cheaper because of drm microsoft could have come off a lot better. imagine what could have been if they said games would be $40 instead of $60.

CaEsAr-4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

I know right? They even didn't bother to give much details about the family share plan.

And no, we (gamers) don't want this BS.

NewMonday4757d ago

turns out the "family share plan" had a limit of one hour before stopping and getting asked to buy the game. that was the catch.

a glorified "demo" plan

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Imalwaysright4757d ago

And to think some people were willing to give up their rights for that half-assed feature.

BallsEye4757d ago

@newmonday

That is simply not true. It has been said many times family members can play without any limits as long as they are online. If they go off game is blocked after an hour. Stop quoting guy from neogaff that was SO WRONG about his 100% sure e3 info.

IT WAS CONFIRMED IT'S NOT LIMITED TO 1H so stop spreaidng fanboy crap.

angryraptor4757d ago

Try this Link:
http://www.heyuguysgaming.c...
It appears that shared plan was more of a glorified demo plan. Just found this out myself. Makes me feel better knowing this as I perceived this as a great feature initially, but now not so much of a loss.

The_Con-Sept4757d ago

I don't think developers would want to take such a loss when it comes to dropping the price of new games.

Especially EA. Call of Duty 4 modern warfare is still 30.00 new.

otakukidd4757d ago

@ballseye

Actually they didn't. There was one very vague statement they made about it when they revealed there DRM plan. And couple of sentences which they said you could add anyone to it. The rest is just fanboy speculation. Developers would kill them if they did what people thought they were doing then same way they bashed Sony. Also that neogaf link is true. I was sceptical of the leaker at first but then he leaked everything Microsoft did at e3 4 days before it. So yeah credible.

creatchee4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

This whole "it was only one hour" argument only proves that people will believe a rumor if it serves their purposes.

The rumor was from an anonymous poster on an anonymous posting board. I could write my own. Anyone could. It doesn't make it true.

It could be true, but the fact that it is unconfirmable should be factored into the equation instead of the peanut gallery repeatedly quoting a rumor.

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The Meerkat4757d ago

That was the only strategy I could think of that made DRM palatable.

If they had done that then Sony would be the ones on the back foot.

But they way things are now I get the feeling MS have no idea how to drive their product forward, so I'll sit back and wait until I'm convinced they know what they're doing before I buy one.

hellvaguy4757d ago

I was looking forward to the of drm where youd never have to load your game discs again. Woulda been nice.

ashade4757d ago

there are no way they do that, i read somewhere who did some research said if they lower the game price (40$) their total income will lower by 10% which i think will hurt them more than get rid of DRM and keep the price at 60$

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SIRHC134757d ago

Is this the new trend? To reflect and act like DRM is what we actually needed?

matgrowcott4757d ago

The problem here is that the people who were complaining about DRM have largely said "Good move Microsoft, now get rid of Kinect and drop the price and we'll talk."

On the other hand, people who had pre-ordered based on features included in the Xbox One, now removed, are saying "so now what are we supposed to do?"

From a general standpoint, it seems Microsoft have done a good thing, but I think people are generally unsure if it's had an actual payoff.

BelieveinGhosts4757d ago

I was one of those people, i came back home at night to relax and catch up on the latest gaming news and BAM.....It hit me Microsoft have killed the vision of Xbox One.

Think about it, how can you spend hours on two big conferences during the Xbox reveal on May 21st and the E3 briefing and just totally chicken out of your Philosophy.

I couldnt believe it. Any way i believe that every thing happens for a reason. Surprisng now i took a second look at the PS4 and it is much more exciting to me. My only dissapointment is that Sony dont have many exclusives at launch and Infamous Second Son was pushed back till next year.

Instead of buying 2 Xbox Ones's like i planned, i think i will just get a PS4 instead.

iceman064757d ago

@BelieveinGhosts...don't worry, that is not the TOTAL exclusives list. We still don't know what the European and Japanese have in store for us at launch. Those bits will come at Gamescon and Tokyo Game Show as usual. All in all, there are supposedly 40 exclusive titles to be released in 2014.

mmj4757d ago

It's like the escaped kidnap victim asking to go back.

Veneno4757d ago

Lolololololololol! :D

theDECAY4757d ago

Seriously? All this back and forth from both Microsoft and people is getting annoying. Can't we just agree this DRM stuff seems pretty crap?

Cernunnos4757d ago

DRM is the consumers worst enemy. Kill DRM.

kayoss4757d ago

Steam and home consoles are two different things.
People who choose steam over console already know that they can not resell their games, lend out their games, or own the phyiscal game. THats a given and they accepted that fact. People who own consoles want to own the physical games, lend out their games, and resell their games thats why the console gamers out number steam gamers.
If you go with steam you have accepted DRM and the majority dont want DRM therefore they look towards consoles.

iceman064757d ago

Steam is a subscription service, Xbox One is a console with the features "built in". For most, they knowingly go into the subscription with Steam. For consoles, not so much. If MS had so many issues explaining it's console, then imagine what Suzy Homemaker would have thought once she bought the console for 12 y/o Jimmy? He doesn't really know, she doesn't really know...now back to the store to trade.

jivah4757d ago

steam lets me play offline and lets me install games as many times as i want on top of which it is heavily rumored that valve is checking out ways to properly implement game sharing.

Hufandpuf4757d ago

@Kayoss He said consumers, people that use Steam aren't consumers?

@iceman Steam is not subscription based

@Jivah You have to log onto Steam first in order to use it offline

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio61d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing61d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9261d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit61d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing61d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9261d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay63d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn264d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn263d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown63d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay63d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay63d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac63d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger63d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300063d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde63d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde63d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7565d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_62d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.