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Could PS4 Have Won E3 Without Used Games, DRM?

IGN - If Sony had said exactly what Microsoft did at E3, would fans still be behind them? We discuss.

NYC_Gamer4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

No,Sony would have been under the same shit storm.

doctorstrange4723d ago

It wouldn't have been as bad, as we'd have less choice and neither of them would have to give up on DRM. But yeah, I'd be pissed as would a lot of people.

It's still $100 cheaper, of course, which'll win them a lot of love.

dedicatedtogamers4723d ago

The $100 cheaper price point would've still caused a big uproar.

But, postulating aside, the reality is that Sony clearly won E3, which is even more evident considering Microsoft just backtracked on their DRM and 24-hour check-in policies.

Sitdown4722d ago

That is where you are confused...Microsoft E3 was not about DRM and 24-check in. Try just looking at the conference for what was presented, not what you think about their previous releases and notes. Microsoft said E3 was going to be about games, and it did exactly that. If you check the threads, a lot of Sony fans were bored with Sony's conference until the price and used games were brought up. I did not really perk up until they mentioned Final Fantasy.

Loki864723d ago

Definitely not, like I had said before MS brought the games and the PS conference was so boring till the last 20 minutes.

MysticStrummer4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

I think the price would still have been a big deal, and the question of who had the better exclusives is always going to be subjective.

For me, the two best things MS showed were a multi-plat (MGS5) and a game that has a very good chance of being on PS4 eventually (Titanfall).

Hard to say what others would have done but for myself, if Sony had echoed MS's policies I'd either have taken another look at the Wii U or looked into building a gaming PC.

SoapShoes4723d ago

Yeah but Sony brought games too. Just as many and they announced they are working on more games in total than Microsoft. Soooo....

HammadTheBeast4722d ago

Sony First Party shown so far: 6/20.

MS: About 11/15

KillrateOmega4723d ago

It pains me to admit it, but MS would have edged them out a bit. MS's performance was simply more attention-grabbing.

Dagobert4723d ago

Yeah bruh, voice activate remotes for your TV is a killer move.

dark-hollow4723d ago

You mean the one they BARELY mentioned at their E3 conference because they were busy showing games after games?

KillrateOmega4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

I know what you're getting at, and the PS fanboy inside me applauds you, but don't be unfair.

They had a solid E3 and if you were here watching the Sony conference live, you would know that many people were growing bored and were worried that Sony had somehow dropped the ball despite their clearly more advantageous position as of late.

jmc88884722d ago

So you're saying you've seen an Xbox One game in action?

Their presentation was PC's with 300-500 percent more graphics power then the Xbox One has and 200 percent more power then a PS4.

Thus if a game 'looked good' at E3, it looked good on a massively more powerful PC.

In other words, your impression at e3 didn't come from games running on an Xbox One.

So should that be a valid reason to vote that MS won e3? Nope.

KillrateOmega4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

As a hardcore gamer, I recognize your reasoning and, quite frankly, I agree.

However, simply from a basic consumer standpoint and not taking into account my own knowledge of what the games were running on, MS's conference was more interesting.

@Ju

Same basic message to you.

theWB274722d ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Confirmee not all games were. .. and of the best looking. .. forza 5... shows what the system can do

Ju4722d ago

What games? MS had three games and faked the rest. Doesn't really change anything. PS4 is still the better box and still $100 cheaper.

HammadTheBeast4722d ago

I support Sony, but I have to kind of agree. However, I believe things will get interesting this games com.

DEEBO4722d ago

what makes you think sony doesn't have games to show?they are better poker players when it comes to the E3 thing.MS had to show those games and still wasn't enough.sony just show some of their games but the price of the ps4 was a big deal.xbox has less power then the ps4 but cause of that camera they want 100 more dollars.we they do that at? social features and talking to a camera is not worth more then a stronger console.

KillrateOmega4722d ago

I'm talking about their E3 conference performances, not their hardware features.

And I never said that Sony didn't have games, bro...

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DragonKnight4723d ago

Yes. Every idiot journalist tried to group in Sony with Microsoft in May after MS announced their stupid DRM system. They demanded Sony address it. If Sony didn't have to address it at E3 to please everyone, they could have shown more games. Pretty simple.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA26d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY26d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay25d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos25d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7226d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY26d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator25d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum25d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z25d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad26d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga26d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot25d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose26d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE26d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername25d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy26d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde26d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8626d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8626d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole26d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot26d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle26d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7726d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments