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Metal Gear Solid V Extended E3 2013 Trailer Analysis

On Monday June 10th, Kojima showed a new trailer for Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain at Microsoft’s E3 conference. The next Wednesday, an extended cut was released, intended for mature audiences.

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NameRemoved00174736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

So close to CGI and this game isn't even close to what the new consoles are capable of. This will be the gen where real life gets beaten by games. I want to see if CD Projekt red stays true to their word about the game looking like the trailer.

Donnieboi4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Hey Nyxus, I think that the woman who was getting the bomb (or whatever that is) removed from her bowels is Dr. Strangelove. It looks like her, and the amount of concern that we see in Chico's eyes as they remove it, shows that they cared about this woman.

Also, the man in the Diamond Dogs hat looks like Colonel Campbell, But younger of course.

a_bro4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Nah, that's Paz.

Donnieboi4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

How? That woman was clearly older looking, much taller (Paz is only a little bit taller than Chico), also, Paz has a roundish face and large anime-like eyes. And VERY long hair.

The woman in the clip had a narrow face, white/blondish hair, was middle aged, tall, and had a haircut reminiscent of Olga from MGS 2 (Just the same kinda hair cut that Dr. Strangelove had).

ALL of those features fit Dr. Strangelove. Even if i'm wrong about it being the Dr., there's still no reason or evidence to believe that is Paz. Not even close. Just because they took a device out of her that had a peace sign on it, doesn't explain away all of the things that I mentioned above. That person looks nothing like Paz. Not the same haircut, hair-color, height, body shape, or peer group (age).

Not even close.

a_bro4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Seeing that Kojima wants to make this game as real as possible, I wouldn't be surprised if he changed her facial features.

Also, it's assumed that in the ground zeroes portion of the game, she is captured and being tortured along side Chico . She would have to be malnourished, looking more pale as ever, and possibly a haircut to diminish her female features.

Plus in the extended E3 trailer, you see Chico, who looked like he snapped out of his torture, since big boss successfully rescued him and is helping snake keep that girl down from the pain she was experiencing while removing that device from her, which is pretty much assumed that they are still at camp omega, in which BIg Boss is in process of rescuing her as well.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

Torture seems to play a big role in this game.

Donnieboi4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Actually, yeah I guess you were right. Aparently vg247 says that it was Paz (but it could just be their opinion).

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

Also the report did say FOR A FACT that kojima says that the man in the Diamond Dogs beret is not Colonel Campbell and IS in fact Master Miller.

Miller sure looks a lot different. A lot harder hearted--but 9 years of being in a torchure camp will do that to you.

Donnieboi4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Edit: Yeah I just found out it was confirmed

Mounce4736d ago

I'm going to say it here too.

Everyone who thinks the fucking guy with the Beret is CAMPBELL is a moron. I see so many stupid people honestly keep saying this and spreading the idiotic 'theorizing' WAY TOO FAR. Just as stupid as people were to say the person in the Phantom Pain, when we knew the character had brown hair and mullet, there was some minority group who kept speculating that it was infact LIQUID SNAKE - as retarded as that sounds.

The man with the Beret is Kaz Miller, no one else. Period. Spread the word on that and that alone. Kaz Miller is missing a right arm when captured, CAMPBELL IS NOT MISSING A RIGHT ARM. Same fucking Shades as Kaz is another gigantic hint and Kaz has more accurate hair of the Beret-wearer than the people who constantly nag about Portable-Ops-version of Campbell....

So....sick and tired of hearing Campbell-theorists....

a_bro4736d ago

Don't understand why someone is disagreeing with you when it's the truth, that's miller.

Mounce4736d ago

@a_bro I have no idea. Yet it's like, people are allowed their own opinion, but I'm really hating on the concept that people are only thinking up crazier and even dumber theories that contradict reality or what their eyes see just so they don't hop on the 'Obvious Bandwagon'. It's like it's not enough for people to simply side with what seems the most logical and so they have to make like an art critic and try to say the most outrageously warped and fucked up thing in hopes their perception is Unique or profound.

That's what I theorize on why idiots can't simply agree with what blatantly is the most logical truth. There are brilliant minds out there who've even already deduced a great connection with Eli to Liquid and THAT...has absolute logic in it. Yet saying ZOMG CAMPBELL CUZ HAIR IS SIMILAR (And nothing else). I've traveled to many MGS5 related articles on many sites only to see the same Campbell theory, it grinds me nerves.

breakpad4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

the only thing that bothers me with the new MGS is that will not have real life weaponry ...all the weapons which are present are modeled to look like their real counterparts ..why Kojima ??all previous games used real world weapons (and some characters had their own characteristic equipement)..why you changed this for V?

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punisher994736d ago

The game just simply looks unreal. But can someone please answer this for me? How in the world is Emmerich in this game? Just how old is he?

Unicron4736d ago

Its Huey, Hal's father, from peace walker. His face is wrinkled if you watch the HD footage.

Donnieboi4736d ago

THIS Emmerich is the one who helped to create Metal Gear. This is the father of Otacon. The series tends to repeat themes over & over--as if the characters and their offspring were stuck in a simulation. But that's a whole other story...

punisher994736d ago

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Thanks. lol

wastedcells4736d ago

It's nice he does these extravagant trailers but I would love a simple gameplay trailer.

Timesplitter144736d ago

Well, there was a good 2-3 minutes of gameplay in there, which is as long or longer than most trailers already

wastedcells4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

I relies that but id rather just see some gameplay. Dont want to see any story parts before playing.

infamousinfolite4736d ago

Take it from previous MGS games I believe this is in game. I don't see Kojima doing other wise.

wastedcells4736d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

Its in game for sure no question there I just want to see gameplay without any story sections.

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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Brutal Backlog

Over ten years after its release, does Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain still impress? Jump Dash Roll returns to Snake's world for this Brutal Backlog.

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CrimsonWing6998d ago

I don’t think I’ve ever quite experienced an unfinished game that was slapped together with duct tape and construction paper to be sold as a finished product, basically making you replay the same missions and include a story that clearly was missing so much of the plot, like I did with this game.

I’m actually shocked that it doesn’t get calls out for this more.

franwex98d ago

It did. But the gameplay loop is still pretty good.

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CoPilot: Gaming Chat is an amazing revelation - A true gamer friend at your side

CG writes: In this video, we take Microsoft's Copilot for a spin and talk about gaming and AI influences, and the implications of that. We talked about a possible Metal Gear Solid V remaster, Deus Ex remaster, Hitman Blood-Money mission, and more. Imagine trying to talk gaming with non-gaming friends in real-life and after 5 seconds, they switch off and possibly yawn. Well, CoPilot isn't like that, instead it's like talking to a like-minded gaming fan who is totally on your level. The public version of CoPilot released in Feb 2023 and already it's become almost indistinguishable from a real person.

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Metal Gear Solid 5, Nearly After A Decade, Is Still A Timeless Classic

The Metal Gear series, led by Kojima, pioneered the stealth genre, creating a masterclass in storytelling and gameplay.

SimpleSlave729d ago (Edited 729d ago )

No. But MGS5: Ground Zeroes might actually be one of the greatest Game Demo ever, if not the best.

xHeavYx729d ago

I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked that story twist at the end. The game was fun and all, but I wouldn't call it a timeless classic.

Cacabunga728d ago

Metal Gear legend stopped with number 4.
MGS5 needed a year or 2 more of development to be maybe among the classics.. it was clearly rushed, especially at the end. The story teaches us absolutely nothing new.

just_looken729d ago

A demo is free that was a $40 cry for help as later we would know konami did not want to fun hideo and his team anymore that is why we got the unfinished phantom pain.

-Foxtrot729d ago (Edited 729d ago )

Meh

Great stealth gameplay but the game was just average.

Bland open world that felt lifeless, the story felt shoehorned in, unfinished story etc. The whole thing was just average to me compared to the other main titled games.

I would have rather preferred it if they kept Ground Zeroes for the main game as the opening and the rest of the game turns into a Metal Gear 1 & 2 remake to bring things full circle.

just_looken729d ago

If you dig around they had old behind trhe scenes of phantom pain vids and books wrote around the time.

Before funding was puled the main idea was to keep peace walker coop it was in the games early builds and that end game were your building your base that was suppose to be metal gear one.

You as the fake big boss was going to make your own metal gear one map aka your base (outer heaven) then me as sold snake use the mode that is in the game invade/defeat the base even fight your current version of metal gear that was in the game but not finished.

So your idea was on the table bit got canned.

CrimsonWing69729d ago (Edited 729d ago )

Like hell it is. That was the first time I became aware of being sold an unfinished game and was blown away about blind fanboys saying it was some perfect game.

Yea, the first few chapters were great until they do that thing halfway and make you replay all the missions again. Then little things like capturing animals but only seeing a JPEG unlike 3 where everything was modeled out. Areas were massive, desolate, and boring to look at.

Game was a massive let down for me and the potential was so high for it. Honestly, this was one of the most disappointing games I ever played. What’s worse is it starts off brilliant. You literally play through until you get to the point where you could tell they just stopped developing and then quickly used glue and construction paper to “finish” it and then sold it. Quite frankly, that’s insulting to consumers and fans.

Inverno729d ago

People have selective memory. This game had huge drama attached to it, what Konami did to Kojima and this game was horrible. Now they praise Konami cause they revived Silent Hill, even though SH looks half arsed too.

CrimsonWing69729d ago

I dunno if they’re getting much praise after the Silent Hill 2 debacle. Makes me scared sh*tless for the MGS 3 Remake…

Michiel1989728d ago

I don't wanna defend konami, but Kojima had 7 years to make the game, it's not that weird for a publisher to expect a game to be finished in that amount of time.

Also no one is praising konami from what I've seen, they're just excited that a Silent Hill game is releasing

CrimsonWing69728d ago (Edited 728d ago )

@Michiel1989

You’re absolutely correct. Look, the dude is a visionary and has brought us some incredible games, but he constantly would go over budget and could never stick to a deadline. I don’t know if people remember the MGS 4 trailers but it became a joke when you’d see a release date and then they crossed it out in the next trailer to give another.

What a lot of people don’t know is there’s a certain amount of money given for development and marketing. When you go over the budget and add additional marketing over the deadline it isn’t cheap. MGS GZ and V were laughable to me for the amount of time he had to develop them and he spent even more time on the engine that wasn’t anything revolutionary to me. I mean, GZ was nothing more than a demo and they released that art like $40 I think, probably to further help fund V. He then spent money for Kiefer Sutherland who did nothing for the character, which I think Kojima just wanted because he’s a fan.

Konami just had enough and said this is the deadline and you’re done after this. It’s business, but fans took it personal. I mean look at this Overdose game he’s been doing.,, like when is that ever coming out?

Michiel1989727d ago

I kind of forgot about overdose but yeah exactly my thoughts. He has made some of the best games out there and definitely deserves time to create his new masterpiece, but it's not a bottomless well.

This is pure speculation but I imagine he got around 4 years to make the game excluding pre-production. If after those 4 years the game is nowhere near being done, the relationship will be strained between them one way or another.

about the konami being praised thing, if let's say blizzard announces world of warcraft 2 today I'll be excited as hell for the game, but that doesn't mean my opinion of blizzard changes only a tiny bit cause they're still trash.

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Yui_Suzumiya728d ago

Yeah, it was the only MGS I didn't play and this is coming from someone who got back into gaming after skipping a generation due to MGS4 back in 2008. It just seems to be the complete opposite of the MGS I always knew and loved (1-4).

JEECE729d ago

Yes and no. In many ways in was a great game; there's a very strong argument that it has the best gameplay of any MGS game, and that it is one of the more interesting open world "playgrounds" we have gotten, in terms of how the world operates. But as an MGS narrative, it is pretty far down the list, for many reasons.

Storm23729d ago

I don't think there is any argument. The gameplay was incredible. But yeah...disappointed in the rest. Could have been incredible but...well...we all know what happened...

JEECE727d ago

I don't think there is much of one either but apparently some people found the world very boring compared to the more linear structures of other entries so I didn't make a definitive statement in order to acknowledge the outliers.

DarXyde728d ago

The thing about Metal Gear Solid is that the narrative is what determines which is your favorite because the gameplay had ALWAYS improved with every mainline entry. It's amazing.

If it was gameplay, we'd all say The Phantom Pain, but the story is what truly sets them apart.

For me, that's Snake Eater, which is also my favorite game of all time.

JEECE727d ago

That's my favorite too, particularly if we are talking about the subsistence version with camera control.

Fishy Fingers729d ago

For me, best gameplay, worst, everything else.

Storm23729d ago

Yeah...gameplay was so damn good.

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