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Converted Microsoft Points will expire in a year

StickSkills: "During their E3 media briefing, Microsoft announced the phasing out of Microsoft Points starting this fall. What they didn’t tell you, was that the Points, after being converted to real funds, will expire."

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BadboyCivic4710d ago

Gotta love MS. They treat gamers so well

JokesOnYou4710d ago

Wow what?

“The purchased funds you deposit into your account after the transition will not expire. However, the funds we deposit into your account at the time of the transition will expire one year from the deposit date.”

Its simple...they are going to convert your current(existing) points into real money, you have a year to spend the converted money, all funds after this transition do not expire. Just spend your points and they have some great deals on point cards too.

HammadTheBeast4710d ago

^

In short: Spend money on current Xbox 360 things or pick up the One fast, cause the clock is ticking on your money. No more waiting, pressures on.

($___$)

Foliage4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

@Joke

I know you're a fanboy; but to still be taking the Microsoft Corporations side when they have screwed you this hard and this far... wow.

Just... wow.

They are stealing your rights; now they are literally stealing your money.

Wake the heck up!

They just had a sale on points recently; I know people with thousands upon thousands of points from MONEY they invested; which is now going to be lost a year from the conversion. That's just pathetic.

To top it off; the 360 library is completely dead; so there is nothing worth spending the money on now. They are literally goating people into the Xbox One. At least the console name now makes sense; they are going ass backwards!

rainslacker4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

If you paid for those MS points, and get converted, they are basically just taking the money away from you. I know it's really semantics since points aren't real money, but the consumer did spend money on them at some point. It's basically free money going into MS pocket.

So yeah..."Wow" is appropriate.

jetlian4710d ago

even now points get taken away! this isnt new. points expire always have. with dlc and dled games it shouldnt be a problem

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LackTrue4K4710d ago

wait..."so if you don't use it, you lose it?!"

Foliage4710d ago

Wrong; points gained before this conversion; which are to be converted to the new system; will have a 1 year period before expiration.

Your current or any points acquired before this conversion; will be lost a year post conversion.

Yes, they are pocketed by Microsoft. The terms are plain as day.

Godmars2904710d ago

Want to call it BS, but given that MS has been "smart" enough to sell points at drastic discounts, simply can't say such.

Though of course this also means that time on XBL will no longer be sold at discount either.

Majin-vegeta4710d ago

I feel sorry for people who have no idea whats bout to happen.

Starbucks_Fan4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

I'm PISSED. I bought 14 of those 1200 MS point cards when they were $5 each and was going to save a little for Xbox One if I get one in a couple years. The Xbox One is now even more worthless to me.

FML

Gigaguy7774710d ago

Your points get converted to cash, and will stay attached to your profile. You will keep your money. Learn to read first.

HammadTheBeast4710d ago

^

Maybe you should. The money's gone in a year. Unless he buys the Xbox One.

Starbucks_Fan4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

^^ Uhh I have the money for just a year right?

Mikeyy4710d ago

Giga you need to learn to read. It clearly says the money gained from converting ms points will expire 1 year after the conversion date.

Any money added after will not expire.

Tres214710d ago

aye u wanna sell those cards 2 me then for $5 bucks each.lol im just tryin 2 help ur life here.lol

Foliage4710d ago

Sorry bots; you all need to learn to read:

"However, the funds we deposit into your account at the time of the transition will expire one year from the deposit date. "

There is no confusion there. The points DEPOSITED at the time of TRANSITION WILL EXPIRE ONE YEAR FROM THE DEPOSIT DATE.

Read that a few times; you'll get it eventually. Ask your parents to read it to you.

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webeblazing4710d ago

would it make 'scents' to convert point to real currency for them this is one of the reason i havent brought a 360 yet luvd xbox but we all knew how MS was going to do things in this industry be for real

theWB274710d ago

Watch everybody jump over this...even the people who have no intent on buying an XboxOne. I highly doubt people have a years worth of credits just sitting in their account.

Converted credits expire- New money stays for ever.
But here comes the horde to spew their hatred.

HammadTheBeast4710d ago

I know people who bought lots of points on sale in anticipation for the Xbone. But GG to them, right?

theWB274710d ago

And they can use those points to purchase the games online since they have to be installed anyway. Whats your point?

MestreRothN4G4710d ago

Now you see why they were on sale, right?

rainslacker4710d ago (Edited 4710d ago )

@theWB27

I'm pretty sure if I took money out of your wallet you would see the point.

I mean...ok you can accept all the DRM and the 24 hour connection because it doesn't affect the way you play games. You don't believe Kinect is a monitoring device. But this is taking money from people.

Probably won't be a big deal since most people that have points likely use them, but the end result is still the same. Whether you steal from one person or 1000, it's still just wrong.

CrossingEden4710d ago

no no screw that man, let's just pretend that everyone has 20,000 microsoft points saved up and that they will never use them ever

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot7d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle7d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk777d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7711d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300012d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7212d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit11d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania12d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit11d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0711d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr12d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr12d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9512d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7212d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--12d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7211d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket12d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm12d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde12d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_12d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted12d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit11d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT12d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers12d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14912d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0711d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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