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Why the Xbox One Isn't Done

To be celebrating Sony's victory already is to miss the point. The core gamer will no doubt flock to the PS4. It makes sense for those of us who care about intrusive DRM, privacy issues and always online restrictions. But the fact of the matter is that we are the minority. Many, many more people don't really care about always online or used game issues.

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dedicatedtogamers4727d ago

"...as long as they aren't effected"

But that's exactly the point, isn't it? Assuming everything works flawlessly and there are never any server hiccups, errors, or heaven forbid hacks, there are still many other restrictions a customer is going to be hit in the face with. WHAT? I can't bring my game disc to my brother-in-law's? Oh, okay, I can use my own account (but only for an hour). WAIT, WHAT? How exactly do I sell/trade a game? Why is the Kinect always on?

And then when you add in the inevitable and unforseen errors, things really go downhill. Why won't my Kinect recognize my voice? Why are the servers down today for the second day in a row?! I can't play my games! Dangit, why won't it detect my new router? I'm gonna be up all night fixing this thing.

This is going to have a nightmare of returns based on the convoluted policies packaged with this thing. If the gaming community had trouble deciphering a lot of the policies, imagine how much attention a mother of 4 is going to pay to the fine print on this system.

Fire5251084727d ago

The thing is that the majority of CoD players play it solely for multiplayer. The game is already in an always online mode for them.

I agree completely, it is a terrible system that hurts a lot of the people who want to play single player games. The Xbox One should burn because of what it's trying to do. But it quite likely will not.
others.

Ashlen4726d ago

I noticed earlier the PS4 version of COD is outselling the Xbox version on Amazon buy a lot it looks like. So even though they play online they seem to care about DRM as much as everyone else.

Software_Lover4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

You can bring your disc to your brother in laws, as long as before hand you uninstall it from your system and deactivate it. The disc isn't needed to play the game so why would they allow the same game to be on two different HDD's simultaneously?

It was a bad decision on Microsoft's to make it mandatory to install the game. But when you look at it, it's just like a game being streamed from the disc. You put the disc in when you want to play. You take the disc out when you want to lend it to someone.

We still dont know the ins/outs of the uninstalling and deactivating process. Lets hope it's nothing ridiculous. Of course, its ridiculous to have to go through these steps already.

creatchee4726d ago

@Software_Lover

"You can bring your disc to your brother in laws, as long as before hand you uninstall it from your system and deactivate it."

That is not how the system works at all. If you don't like it, fine. But don't say that it's something that it's not. Do your research.

denawayne4726d ago

This is exactly why the negative press has snowballed out of control concerning Xbox One. While I get the hatred towards the DRM issues, there are way too many statements made that are untrue. Microsoft really needs to make a video showing exactly how Xbox One works when it comes to games. For the record, you can install your game on your machine, get in your car and drive to a friends house with no disc and access ANY game installed on your own hard drive. You can also lend a game to that friend. Microsoft has used the term "once" in regards to lending and I interpret this to mean lend it to one person at a time not that you can only it lend it one time and never again.

rainslacker4726d ago

If you have to make a video, or pamphlet, or devote a single multi-bullet-point webpage to explain something so simple as sharing/trading games, it's probably an overly convoluted policy that isn't beneficial to the customer.

Unless you're doing it to mock your competition, then it's epic and will go down in history as a great troll....but yeah, what I said above.

Blankolf4726d ago

You sir just won the internet through quite a good list of arguments.

mikeslemonade4726d ago

They aren't done because they have deeper pockets and due such harsh negative feedback, I'm 95% sure that they will change their position on DRM and price point. Before they launch the system they will address atleast one of these issues or give you more incentive to buy the system.

If they don't do this the X1 will not sell more than 40 million systems in the next generation.

mikeslemonade4726d ago

They aren't done because they have deeper pockets and due such harsh negative feedback, I'm 95% sure that they will change their position on DRM and/or price point. Before they launch the system they will address at least one of these issues or give you more incentive to buy the system.

If they don't do this the X1 will not sell more than 40 million systems in the next generation.

BitbyDeath4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

What people are forgetting is that Xbone games rely on a certain server to stay alive in order to play a game and sooner or later it will be shutdown.

It could happen as soon as the sequal arrives, when Xbox Two arrives or when MS leave the console biz.

It's not a question of 'IF' but when. You buy the Xbone and sooner or later you will be left with a box that does nothing and discs that do nothing.

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snipab8t4727d ago

XBONE had a better E3 showing because they held their cards on their reveal.

Sony pretty much showed their entire hand at their reveal and got lost at E3 as they didn't really have much to say.

resi54727d ago

Wow this is the first time I've heard this. Xbox definitely had better games on show but Sony got lost......... rewatch the last 10 mins

BattleTorn4726d ago

I get what he's saying. I couldn't beleive my eyes at the beginning of their conference, when they were spending time talking about how Netflix/RedBox will work.

But, then again, I didn't see the last 10mins at that point

YNWA964726d ago

The part where Sony told you about no Drm and stuff, but lied as there is in fact a form of drm in there if publishers want to use it, which to me means theres a switch in there that can be turned on someday, which means it is on their minds..... That was not in the 10 minutes.... That was after....

SCW19824727d ago

The Order was enough plus all that awesome Indie support love.

Belking4726d ago

"Sony pretty much showed their entire hand at their reveal and got lost at E3 as they didn't really have much to say."

They knew they were gonna start charging for online multi-player but they sure kept quiet about that ubtil E-3 though....lol

HammadTheBeast4726d ago

Cause MS messing up extravagantly allowed them to do this without much backlash.

HammadTheBeast4726d ago

More like they dropped their cards and everyone saw the holes in their deck on the ground. Then, at E3, they put some tape over the holes.

But you can't change that we've all seen their cards...

McScroggz4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

Sony didn't show their entire hand. In fact, they have only shown half of it. Sony has a worldwide audience, and will undoubtedly announce some new games at Gamescon and TGS.

Off the top of my head we still have PS4 projects yet to be announced by: Guerilla Games, Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, Media Molecule, Sony London, Sony Bend, House Marquee and probably more.

But if you still think Sony has shown their entire hand then I don't know what to tell you except 30 exclusives in the first year.

Boody-Bandit4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

^THIS

Is similar to what I was going to write. Sony only showed part of their hand. Where MS shows most of what they have to offer this year and into the following year at E3. E3 is it for MS. That is always where they go big.

Sony treats all the major shows equally. They have a plethora or 1st party support and are known for bring out a lot of new IP's every generation. They are still bringing out new blockbuster quality IP's this gen (PS3). Also Sony has 3 formats to make games for. There is no doubt at all they will bring out amazing games for the PS4 throughout it's life cycle just like they did with the PS3 and the 2 generations before it.

MS has a HUGE uphill battle being released in the same launch window as the PS4, costing $100 dollars more, having the restrictions and FULL DRM. They aren't done but I believe Sony is going to significantly out sell them next gen.

Bruce_Wayne4726d ago

"Sony has a plethora of studios and yet some feel this is all Sony has planned?"

This is exactly what I've been trying to tell everyone who said that Sony didn't show enough exclusives.

karl4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

let me correct u

XBOX had a better E3 showing because they show all their cards..

i bet u wont see a new game for the xbox one in a long time.

With i dont even know how many studios sony has, u can rest assure u will get more games in the future

E3 isnt everything buddy.. xbox fanboys try to spin the fact that sony destroyed MS with the games argument

it doesnt matter.. sony will always have more games..

ALWAYS

FACT

snipab8t4726d ago

Just because you say FACT in capitals does not mean it is fact. Xbox 360 had heaps more and higher quality exclusives for the first half of its life. Only in the last 4 years or so has the PS3 become the more dominant console regarding games and exclusives.

karl4726d ago

Ca u list those for me? But pls dont count games that eventually came out for ps3..

GamersRulz4726d ago

$399 Superior system

No DRM at all!

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Foxgod4726d ago

Its only barely started yet, more new game reveals are coming at GDC, and they already opened the floodgates at E3

Hicken4726d ago

I was gonna try to reason with you, and then I remembered you don't seem to grasp that concept.

bub164726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

sorry but unless its around £100 at some point and lets u play pre owned games. i will never ever own one. and this is coming from a guy who has a ps vita, 3ds and wiiu!!

McScroggz4726d ago

The core gamers generally care about DRM and used games, so Sony trumps Microsoft there.

The casual care about cost, Sony has Microsoft there as well.

If Microsoft unveils a slew of Kinect games focused on families, then maybe it will drive some sales. But, the price will still remain an issue.

Personally, I think the only chance Microsoft has is to spend huge amounts of money for third party exclusives and a ton of advertising. The sad thing is, as a gamer, they are fully capable of doing this.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio22d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing22d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit22d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing22d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted24d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8524d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele24d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk23d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay23d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10124d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit23d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg23d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10123d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14924d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay24d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn224d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn223d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown24d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay24d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay24d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac23d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger24d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300024d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde24d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde23d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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