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Microsoft's Xbox One Console: Not Friendly to Our Troops

E-mpire writes: The new Xbox One console has been revealed to have some restrictive DRM policies. While most people will be able to enjoy their games just fine despite these policies, there is one group who is left out in the cold.

Why o why4740d ago

There is an alternative......

if not maybe they can plead with ms to commission a drm free version.

Students may also be affected.... I'm interested to see how ms deals with this

fr0sty4740d ago

There are a lot of groups affected by this move. Microsoft has severely limited their target audience with this move, and I hope to see them eventually give the policy up. I won't support them with requirements like that, as it sends a message that doing that sort of thing is acceptable.

Pro Racer4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

Xbox One DRM and policies disadvantage our troops as well as countless other gamers.

Microsoft's response to this is "Deal with it"

Our response should be "Not buying it"

Toon_Link4740d ago

I'm interested to see what parents think about giving their 10 year olds a console with a web browser and a mandatory Internet connection. I personally would never let my kid have something like that and I can image this will also hurt Xbox sales.

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ApolloTheBoss4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

There is another alternative...If they thought the 360 sucked, I can't WAIT to see their reaction when they hear about this.

RedHawkX4740d ago

microsoft and the xbox one wants to take away not only americans freedoms but the whole worlds. firrst verizon and no M$ with kinect and drm.

as a gamer I will not allow it. I will not tolerate it. and may god have mercy on the souls of those who do because they gonna be in for a world of hurt next gen.

for the troops stationed in japan ps4's will be there so you know what choice to make tokyo drift it.

Soldierone4740d ago

If you said Verizon because they are handing over data to the government, you should realize Microsoft was a big supporter of that movement and has already been doing it for a while....

The patriot act was signed and allows the government to legally "steal" any data it wants. Very few companies like Twitter are actually fighting it.....

3-4-54740d ago

Nintendo would be wise to ship some Wii U's to our troops. I know they are a Japanese company but still games are games, humans are humans.

RedHawkX4739d ago

japan and america are brothers after ww2. we are japans army they are basically are siblings now.

quenomamen4739d ago

Yea there is, buy a PS4 and play whener you effin want.

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majiebeast4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

Not friendly to.

-1 Mirrion Troops.
-Gamers.
-People with spotty internet
-Indie devs.
-People who are camera shy
-People who got hit by natural disasters and have no internet for weeks or months.
-Indie gamestores
-Rental places

I think we can keep this list going.

edwineverready4740d ago

you said indie devs twice, but i agree with the list :)

majiebeast4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

Its that important;)

@Frosty
Actually they dont lose any money on servers for used games because its still just 1 person using the server, the game doesnt multiply.

fr0sty4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

I understand that video game sales have taken a hit to used game stores and piracy has harmed the industry. I have nothing against a publisher wanting to charge for an online pass or something like that, as those servers aren't free to maintain. However, blocking millions of people from even playing your console just to try to thwart used game sales and piracy is ridiculous.

@majie, you do make a good point about used games not taxing the servers.

girevik4740d ago

No he said indie gamestores once. I have a friend who owns his own shop and now he doesn't know how the xbox 1 will affect his business.

Christopher4740d ago

Gaming, as a hobby, is not for poor people in general. Even with used game sales, it requires a large up front investment and focuses on the people willing to shovel out $60 for each new game release.

dcbronco4740d ago

I do agree with that. There are a lot of people who haven't recovered from the depression. Which is supposedly over though to the people that decide, over means major corporations are making the same profits again. It doesn't apply to the average worker at all. And while major corporations are making bigger profits than ever, they aren't any more willing to pass that money on to employees. In fact, they have mostly cut hours and benefits for average employees. The last depression was what amounted to a financial "land" grab, as all market crashes are. But it was a huge step toward pushing more and more people below the poverty line.

For gamers that can be read two ways. One is people will have to work with less and less and make due. The other way to look at it from view of an ancient Roman. The best way to keep a populous happy and dumb is with festivals. Gaming being the fastest growing type means that it is in the best interest of the status quo to keep it available. So there will be solutions to this problem soon.

Many major cities are offering or will offer free wi-fi. And there is a push to provide broadband to the poor for free. So this might be a problem for some now. I have a strong feeling it won't be for long. Well, at least not in America. Then again, taking austerity into account, for Europeans either.

Unicron4740d ago

DC, good post. However, I think the big thing that will keep broadband out of everyone's reach in the US is the currently poor network infrastructure, and the monopolies so many cable companies have on certain areas. Fios and its amazing connections are but a pipedream for someone like me living in LA.

cyguration4740d ago

@cgoodno

Doesn't matter if that's how some people view it. If you're strapped for cash you can still buy games off Steam for a few bucks. Not sure when gaming became so exclusive, especially given that a lot of popular indie titles are made by poor people. Ironic, no?

A large "upfront" payment for the console can be saved up over the course of months.

In fact, Boogie/Francis the Nerd had a good video on explaining how when he was strapped for cash the only thing he had to look forward to was getting games every once in a while and lending/borrowing them with/from friends.

There really is no status quo in gaming, and trying to create one (Microsoft at least) is both sick and culturally inhumane.

Christopher4738d ago

You guys might want to re-read my first sentence again. Note the emphasized part.

"Gaming, AS A HOBBY, is not for poor people IN GENERAL."

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dcbronco4740d ago

@Majiebeast

In your continuing effort to hate everything Microsoft you ignored reality with your very first group on your list. I believe it's Microsoft that provides the Xboxes and all of the logistics for those machines for the troops. Including the software. And I'm not sure that there are any limits on what they can get so there wouldn't be a need to pirate for the soldiers in the first place. So that eliminates the need for DRM on those machines. I also doubt that MS employees have it on their machine either. So it's kinda silly to believe that it applies to each and every unit.

Sony fans(not you specifically on this one) seem to be big on coming up with problems with things, but really lack when it comes to seeing simple solutions. No matter how simple the solution might be. Which makes the complaining seem to be coming from morons.

Christopher4740d ago

Soldiers buy and take xboxes with them. Microsoft does not provide them. Including the software. They do not provide any logistical support for the soldiers either.

You are misinformed on this as a general concept. There may be an instance where they did it for one group, but the majority of overseas soldiers provide for themselves/each other.

fr0sty4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

So your solution is for troops to have to share a console that is at a USO services center (where they are available)? Seriously?

There are hundreds of thousands of deployed troops around the world. Expecting all them to share consoles (where there is one available) is a bit much. That still leaves a lot of gamer troops out.

Unicron4740d ago

Haters aside, it's really, really sad that we've even come to this point though. That we have to jump through hoops just to play games, and not for the right reasons.

Microsoft have created their own problems, not Sony fans. And if Sony follows suit, its proof the industry is focusing on the wrong things!

greenpowerz4740d ago (Edited 4740d ago )

MSFT said already they will have a plan for troops overseas.

I was just about to post something as well nice find.

"While an internet connection will be required for the console, the company is also experimenting with special exemption codes that could be given to select people in very particular, internet-free situations, like active-duty soldiers serving in war zones, sources tell Polygon."

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Media is sensationalizing speculation as fact trying to work up fanboys into a hit producing frenzy. Also trying to save face nit picking things to justify the trolling the media and gamers were doing.

People must realize the that DRM is going to be software enabled MSFT can do what they wan't LOL A simple patch could disable it or change the check in window. People act like the timer is set on the hardware side :o

Best thing to do is for gamers to SFTU about it until all companies and parties involved lay down their cards and lay down the law LMAO

For folks with out a cellphone to use for the check ins I'm sure MSFT will have something that can check the activities of what is been going on, on the box. A military solution will be the most simple for MSFT.

For all we know they could come up with two different versions of a game disc. One for Internet connects and one for non internet connections, that will not play on any other console once it's assigned to a non internet Xbox.(you can thank me later MSFT)

ABizzel14739d ago

@Green

At the end of the day you shouldn't have to worry about whether or not your console will work if you have an internet connection, even if you just want to play a single player only game.

Boycott the Xbox 1 people, if you must buy it get the console used.

Christopher4738d ago (Edited 4738d ago )

@dcbronco:

Note the date: "Dec. 4, 2003"

Note the devices: Xbox, the original ones

As I said, Microsoft does not provide Xbox 360s for soldiers overseas. I have many friends and family overseas now. They have to buy their own items and games.

***While an internet connection will be required for the console, the company is also experimenting with special exemption codes that could be given to select people in very particular, internet-free situations, like active-duty soldiers serving in war zones, sources tell Polygon.***

Sources? Aren't you the one who complained about "sources" spreading bad news about Xbone? Now you're accepting "sources" for news that supports what you want.

How about we wait and see what they do.

And, if they do this... then the question is this: Why have such a restrictive system in place at all if it's possible to do it otherwise? Why are the customers being forced to deal with limitations when it would be, obviously, capable to do it without.

The only answer: They want to control used game sales and what you do with games. They want to make them into licenses instead of products you own and can do with as you want.

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Narutone664740d ago

- People who are speech-impaired.
- All people living outside of the USA.

quenomamen4739d ago

- 60% of the world without internet.

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jizzyjones4740d ago

Whats tomorrows headline, XBOX ONE punches dog? im actually bored of hearing how shit it is.

One4U4739d ago

but but they did punch a dog ...

HurstDarkStar4740d ago

Damn not the troops :( thats just cold man...

buynit4740d ago

I have great Internet connection but that doesn't mean it has never been down for a few days so if that was to happen again I can't play the damn thing offline after 24hrs ms? Really?

Instead of this stupid drm to put more food o
On debs and pubs table, why not actually compete with prices? Why are digital games full price when you cut a few middle men out?!

I was trying to be optimistic ms but you just keep doing dumb shit..

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle31d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

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Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300037d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7236d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit36d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania37d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit36d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0736d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr36d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box36d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr36d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9536d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7236d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--36d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7236d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket36d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm36d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde36d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_37d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted36d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit36d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT37d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers36d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14936d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0736d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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