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Video Game Devs Respond to Xbox One Bombshell

After much confusion and conflicting reports, Microsoft has now provided some clarification on the Xbox One’s features; specifically pertaining to its used game policy, always online, and Kinect. Because some of these details may affect the game development process, developers shared their concerns, enthusiasm, and general thoughts in response. And of course, we had our own discussions at the IGN office:

greenpowerz4721d ago (Edited 4721d ago )

It way like they were secretly waiting for somebody to have the balls enough to support what they have been waiting for, for so long. If would be foolish for a company to not follow in this direction. Support would go to the company better protecting financial well being/food on the table.

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What do you mean what? LOL

You think those comments sounds angry/hostile/disappointed?

They wan't people to pirate their games?

omi25p4721d ago

I guess what he is saying is developers what the X1 and ps4 to be more like steam. 1 game is 1 player. But there is a little more freedom with it.

Im not at all happy about it but i can understand it.

Microsoft have said they will not charge for u to sell there games. But other publishers might.

Being connected all the time i personally dont think is an issue. How do we know that the X1 wont have some sort of 4G built in. Also they didnt say u have to have gold It might not even need a full connection, might just need to be able to sense a connect

JokesOnYou4721d ago (Edited 4721d ago )

IGN Executive Editor of Previews -Ryan McCaffrey

"Again, not defending MS, but theyre not afraid to drag people kicking &screaming into the future. Remember XBL being broadband-only in 2002?"

-Yep same will happen with 24hr login= the world is becoming more connected everyday.

Cell phones are another huge example, initially most hated the idea of always being "available", hell sometimes I still do but aint no way on hell Im giving up this Samsung Galaxy S4 smartphones are just tooooo convenient.

Ares84HU4721d ago

Greenpowers makes little sence to me.

I guess what he is trying to say is that MS wanted to do rhese things for a long time now and they want companies to support them. MS is implementing these "functions" like the 24h check in and the used game plolicy to make more money.

I think it's total bullshit though. When you buy something it's yours and you should be able to do with it what you like. Who in their right mind would buy a used game for XB1 if you have to pay the publisher to play it. It's like buying a used car and than paying a few more thousand $ to Audi/BMW/Mazda or any other car manufacturer. To me it looks like that they are trying to take away ownership of games and what you get basically is a license to play a certain game. Also, after you purchased your game and played it for a week the price will drop below a frogs ass. You think that Gapestop is ripping you off now?? Next gen expect to get below $10 for a used game that is about a week old.

Also, I'm noticing that as time goes on more and more people start loving the XB1 and deffend all the bullshit MS is trying to force on us for some reason.

Godmars2904721d ago

""Remember XBL being broadband-only in 2002?""

And the thing about that at the time was that it could be completely ignored. It was a benefit when used, but with the first Xbox you could never use it and overall nothing would change.

You could at least play damn games.

YNWA964720d ago

@ares84, any software you buy, physical or digital, theres an Eula of some sort. On consoles you get them in firmware updates. On Pc's you get them when installing. With console gaming, places like gamestop took trading to the extreme, where a game could get traded many multiple times where it really hurt developers and publishers. Its always been a case of only owning a license to play the game, movie and music... Its only now they have the technology to do something about it.... Tis the future of things... Sony will follow suit....

fr0sty4720d ago (Edited 4720d ago )

People are saying they'd be shocked if PS4 didn't have very similar or the same policies, after Sony has repeatedly said it will not require a connection at all and won't restrict used games unless the publisher decides to do it. MS is doing it at the system level, limiting the number of times you can loan a game to a friend (and requiring that friend to have been on your XBL friends list for at least one month) and requiring a constant connection at least once per day.

There is nothing similar about the policies of the two companies regarding console DRM. Sony doesn't limit how many times you can sell a game, or where it can be sold. It doesn't mandate installs that are tied to your PSN account. It doesn't require a connection at all.

Machiavellian4720d ago

Sony said the console does not require an internet connection but its up to publishers if they want to implement online checks. People need to read carefully exactly what Sony said and did not say.

If its up to the publishers then it sounds exactly what MS has done without being coy about it.

Also MS has stated that MS game studios will allow games to be resold, gifted and traded so at least everyone knows how MS games will go on the console.

Right now, we know nothing how Sony will implement this "Publishers DRM" since they have not stated anything.

justastranger104719d ago

Notice how none of the developers or publishers are talking bad about it. They love this policy. The result is more games on X1. I would bet my house on it.

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HammadTheBeast4721d ago

People don't pirate anyways on PS3/360 (not much anyways) so it kind of defeats that argument.

Ju4721d ago

Yeah? Where is that PS3 cheat mode? 360...I don't know, actually.

theoneb4721d ago

Lol what? You are terribly misinformed. PS3? No because of the firmware updates and the price of blu ray burners. But 360 most definitely. Ive bee to iraq and not all of the country is a war zone. I visited a mall that looks like something in any American city they had tvs and consoles for sale in what looked like the iraq version of best buy. This wasn't a bootleg store yet in 3rd world countries there is no such thing as legit 360 games they are all bootleg. There were legit ps3 games in this store as well.

Dee_914721d ago (Edited 4721d ago )

lmao @Ryan McCaffrey
"Again, not defending MS, but theyre not afraid to drag people kicking &screaming into the future. Remember XBL being broadband-only in 2002?"
Like gaming is better now than when it was back then.Yea the games are arguably better, but this DLC,DRM generation is NOTHING to brag about sir.The ONLY positive coming from these restrictions are the game library were you can play any of your games on any xbox with your account without needing the disc (not to mention all of the restrictions with that), and thats a tiny positive on its own, but compared to all the negative its a microscopic positive.

greenpowerz is one of the men playing the violin as the titanic sink.I salute your dedication young man
@theoneb Those firmwares does nothing.you can still play online with a jailbroke ps3 weeks at most after a new firmware.However sony does a great job banning those accounts though.

KillerPwned4721d ago

Go to any torrent site and you will see huge collections of PS3 and 360 games up for download.

Ju4721d ago (Edited 4721d ago )

^^ True. And you can do absolutely nothing with those. At least with PS3 isos. Burn 'em onto a BD and hang 'em to the wall. Because that's all they are good for.

theoneb4721d ago

@Dmarc my point isn't that piracy doesnt exist on ps3 its that its a heck of alot worse on 360. You didnt read the words where I said the whole country was pirated lol? I didn't own one but American soldiers purchaed thousands of bootleg games during the Iraq war. If I was MS I would be trying to do something to prevent that as well but the 24hr checkin isn't the answer hell ISPs aren't reliable enough for that. Plus what if I dont pay my cable bill :(

IcicleTrepan4721d ago

A simple search revealed that the PS3 is indeed quite hackable so for all those comments above mine that say it isn't, you are completely full of it. It's as hackable as the PSP. Just get a custom firmware on there. You don't even need a mod chip. I don't know who you're trying to fool by saying nobody is playing pirated games on PS3 or it's not hackable. It's been jailbroken for years.

Realplaya4721d ago

Actually my buddy hacked his ps3 he just never connected it online and didn't install any new firmware updates. all his games were burned on a hard drive. His UI looked like a library with the game on shelves. So to all the people who think the PS3 can't be hacked. If people have time to hack banks then they can do it to consoles.

Corpser4721d ago

Google "ps3 cfw", all you need to do is install a hacked custom firmware, and you can play all these games you see on torrents. But you can't play online

badkolo4721d ago

are you on crack, everyone is pirating 360 games, dont act like they dont. this will stop pirates yet let you do all you did before, it even has advantages, your privacy is out the door already brothers and sisters, they announced today the gov has all our phone records all our ip records so we are tracked and traced already beyond what you can imagine, so stop trying to make it seem xbox one is doing something new, its not, they are protecting their games many like to steal and not pay for, deal with it. xbox 1 rules

AutoCad4721d ago

lol 100+ 360 games here..
as for ps4 if you are past a certain fw you cant,but trust me ppl do pirate on ps4.

GDDR6_20144720d ago

The last of us is already on torrent sites

Rivitur4720d ago

ISO...Xlink Kai...Jtag FTW

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ThatCanadianGuy5144721d ago

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Mods please read that link, and look through Greens comment history.He's the living definition.

Narutone664721d ago

For all I know, he's not the only one. Could be the same person with multiple accounts. It's so obvious that it's not funny anymore.

Testfire4721d ago

Haha, you might be right. I do see these guys/gals all over the internet.

Qrphe4721d ago

The fact he sides with the company and against the consumer proves you right.

kneon4721d ago

But he's so bad at it I can't believe anyone would actually pay him

hesido4721d ago

I *hope* he is getting paid and not just a fanboy. If he's a fanboy and not getting paid, I'm genuinely sorry for him.

Jazz41084720d ago

If greens a viral marketer then the mods need to look at 70 percent of the sony loving accounts. They even call sony a god.

FFXI1014720d ago

Off the topic, didn't Samsung got caught doing that a while ago? I think it was at Taiwan.

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Anon19744721d ago

"Support would go to the company better protecting financial well being/food on the table."

But if this blows up in their face and sales of another console take off as a result while the Xbox One falters, where do you think developers are going to throw their support? There's a line between protecting your interests and pissing off your market that not all developers are willing to tread.

Already in this article we're seeing these decisions being met with skepticism from devs and the gaming media.

Omegasyde4721d ago

I agree completely. Its a catch 22.

If the Ps4 sells more because this, publishers will have no choice to focus on it. Also Xbox, states they are leaving the "choice" up to the publisher....This makes no sense since Xbox had a mandatory 24-hr check in!

On the other hand, if publishers like this agreement as it increases revenue(lesss used games), why make games for the ps4 if people can still play used game.

Honestly, I don't see Sony going this route but instead keep using what has been working so far.... Online Passes.

If a game is singleplayer only however whats the point of the the passes?

kneon4721d ago

It's not the DRM that Microsoft is leaving up to the publishers, it's whether you can transfer or sell your license. The DRM is there whether or not they want it.

N4g_null4721d ago

This could mean a total boycott and their doors closing.

Jockamo4720d ago

I believe the publishers put MS up to this. And now that it's announced, they're hiding in the shadows. I feel sorry for MS. It's not like they wanted all this bad PR.

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wenaldy4721d ago

I disagreed without reading your post.. lol..

Hicken4721d ago

No worries. You were still right.

Roper3164721d ago

just remember that when you lose your internet for a few days and are unable to game. I have lost internet/cable for a few days but still had power and was able to game, so you think it's right for me not to be able to game if i lose my internet again? Even though I bought & paid for the console & a new game not a used game but a new game at full price? you really think that is right and acceptable for me to not be able to use what I pay for? Are you a socialist or something? You voted Obama didn't you?

I couldn't careless about the used games sales because I keep all my games and don't buy used. The only thing I will lose out on is when my friend gives me his old Call of Doo Doo because he got the newest yearly release. So trust me when I tell you as far as I'm concerned missing out on that is no biggie even for free.

But to defend a company who won't let you use what you rightfully & legally bought without checking in with them every 24 hours to me is crazy.

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IcicleTrepan4721d ago

I'm most concerned with what if Xbox Live goes down for a period of time, or at the end of life of the One, they decide to shut 'er down. Then your right to play games you paid for just goes down the drain. I don't want a pile of games I paid for to suddenly become worthless because some tool flicked a switch in Redmond.

garos824721d ago

Try moving house in the UK and transferring your isp to a new address....
Internet-less for weeks

wishingW3L4721d ago

this has nothing to do with socialism, this is capitalism at its finest.

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Christopher4721d ago

***If would be foolish for a company to not follow in this direction.***

You hear that CDProjekt (owners of GoG.com and makers of games), you are foolish! Fooooolish!

ThatCanadianGuy5144721d ago

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if MS is paying Green.Gaf just banned a bunch of MS damage controllers.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Mods here really need to look into his comments.It's all fun and games to poke fun sometimes and mess with the fans but this guy is getting paid to promote an agenda and spread propaganda.

nukeitall4721d ago

Actually, looking at the actual comments it is no reason to ban them. Far more than what is being posted here, like even your post speculating....

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T24721d ago

its not fanboyism when you just resort to completely rehashing corporate PR B.S. like Greenpowerz. He is obviously a PR lackey or is so deluded he actually is a cerified mentally ill person who needs help. Thank god for bubbles some days....

Tatsuya 4721d ago

lol you're still the idiot we know even after that massive failure of a next gen Xbox reveal. Go ahead sheep, Microsoft is waiting in bed for you.

Fat-Milkers4721d ago

I have tried to read this post three times! I have no idea what it is your are saying. I mean just literally the poor grammar and spelling insults the English language. Its so incoherent I had a stroke concentrating so hard :/
Sorry I had to reply, this post amazes me. I'm sure someone can decipher its cryptic meaning.

Slade234721d ago

wow really. Mircosoft the Shepherd and the sheep is the people who follow Mircosoft. it's not that hard to understand... it's not rocket science. I just don't know why he put "waiting in bed for you" or who he's talking to.

T24721d ago

so you admit to being a corporate shill in other words, greenpowerz... "it would be foolish for a company not to follow this direction" Really? with consumers lining up on both sides to boycott this option? Is that how they teach customer service in corporate shill speak? Force it down their throats? go ahead, its just more reasons to boycott. Unless you are a company shareholder, then stfu, you sound like a MS PR rep.

indysurfn4721d ago

microsoft is like the government that fools you by using words like a shell game, call them in between words. In this case the word would be 'family'. If by family they mean anyone in your house on the same network. Then there 'feature' of you can have anyone in your family play a game is very mute! Because that means anyone in your walls can play your game. And I can do that NOW with every console ever invented. No high speed internet required. And no checks every one to 24 hours require either! In fact pay attention how they change from using 'family' to 'friends'. This is how they can trick us into thinking we are getting something new when we are only getting something old with a added restriction. Microsoft is determine to not let us own our software. And to control who we can do business with.

blind-reaper4720d ago (Edited 4720d ago )

These microsoft policies DON'T mean at all that it will end pirate games (in fact I believe it will promote it, because it will be the only way to play your games offline), in fact these type of policies are only punishing the people who buy and trade ORIGINAL games.

1nsomniac4720d ago (Edited 4720d ago )

What, as in they are finding it difficult to read what your saying with your dyslexia. Plus when you fight through the spelling mistakes & randomly added words, the point that your actually trying to raise doesn't really sit well either as it's up to the consumer to accept this or not, not the manufacturer. As most of us including me will not by the XBone due to this issue.

noctis_lumia4720d ago (Edited 4720d ago )

kindly just shut it up xbox fanboy thx

sAVAge_bEaST4720d ago

I don't know if there are really that many xbox fan-boys left. I do know there are hordes of MS PR people on websites 'posing' as fan boys.. put they are pushing an agenda.. and it's easy to see through.

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a_bro4721d ago

http://i.imgur.com/he28o0T....

microsoft between be throwing megatons at E3, cause time is running out for them.

they're going to play dirty by paying 3rd party companies to show their games on that box over the PS4 apparently on E3

Ju4721d ago

Does it matter? Didn't they just self-destruct with that "clarification"? Well...i don't really care. Never wanted an XBone, but tried to be open. At least before Sony showed anything. But I must say, MS made it quite easy to not even waste a thought of considering this.

... And thanks for keeping the entertainment value up. Since the reveal it's quite entertaining coming back to n4g...lol.

MajorLazer4721d ago

They exploded a Nuke on themselves with the reveal, and with every passing day, radiation from said Nuke has been killing them further and further. MS is a mutant!

wagnus4721d ago

I really don't want an xbox1 after all that is going on. (I don't own a playstation 3, and haven't touched my wii in years).

If they honestly try to buy out 3rd parties to sell people like me, I hope we stand strong. The only way to knock this shit off is to send a message via poor sales.

ybadr4721d ago

Here, take this bubble sir.

ltachiUchiha4721d ago

Exactly, too bad some dont see where your coming from and will look at this as a good thing. Smh

a_bro4720d ago (Edited 4720d ago )

You know..Sony did the same exact thing back in 2006-2008

it wasnt until we gamers put them in their place..Look at them now. they are doing the things we expect them to do.

its funny and ironic that Micrsoft is doing the same thing.. they need to learn a lesson as well.

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zeal0us4721d ago

Whelp we know who will win Consumer Worst Company(in the US) next year, so EA you can take a deep breathe and relax now /jk.

Whelp Cliff did say always online was coming and boy I didn't think it was coming this soon.

Narutone664721d ago

As Orth said: "deal with it". Really stupid, SimCity and Diablo 3 should have given them a hint of what will happened if they push thru with it.

majiebeast4721d ago

Lost all respect for Cliffy and Jaffe.

Testfire4721d ago

Barely? Yes, these guys have made some good games, but my respect for them stops there. They're obnoxious narcissists who take every opportunity to get attention.

KwietStorm_BLM4721d ago

I don't know why you say they're narcissistic. They're very opinionated and neither of them care for censoring their beliefs, but that doesn't make them narcissists.

MikeMyers4721d ago

David Jaffe:

"I wonder if Xbox1's 'let's pubs decide If a game can be sold as used' will allow what I have been asking for for years: pubs lock launch"

Pubs lock launch. What does that mean, no used sales until they say so? This could be what I mentioned before, they will have a window to sell only new copies and then allow more freedom. That way they can get as much revenue as they can while still giving the consumer some flexibility later on.

KwietStorm_BLM4721d ago

Yes that's exactly what he meant.

madpuppy4721d ago

If they were ONLY locking the launch of a game for a certain time period, to me that would be fine, I almost NEVER buy a game at launch, let the suckers eat the full price. I am not a impatient 12 year old (age or mentality) that has to have a game at launch or my fwends will make fun of me...

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

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Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300017d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7217d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit16d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania17d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit16d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0716d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr17d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr17d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9517d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7217d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--17d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7216d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket17d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm17d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde17d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_17d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted17d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit16d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT17d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers17d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14917d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0716d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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