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Xbox One preview: Hands-on | T3

The Xbox One moves gaming out of the bedroom and into the living room - but can TV apps and a beefed up Kinect save console gaming?

DJMarty4737d ago

No, it;s a PAY WALLED CABLE BOX, and a bad one.

4>1

CalamityCB4737d ago

Don't be ignorant. If you are going to slag of the machine state the true bad things such as DRM, specs and Used games.
It is still primarily a games console, MS just wanted to show that it can be used for more than playing games, in essence the ultimate entertainment system.
I hate how people have acted negative to Microsoft showing the TV side of the console, many of my friends use their Xbox 360s for watching films and television (e.g. I-player and 4OD). Microsoft are appealing to their most dominant customers, the people who watch and play.

TomOfAllTrades4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

No it's not a primary console, if that was the case, why was TV stressed so much at the reveal of the Xbox One, stop trying to over-shadow the fact that this device is not being aimed at the right market. You don't invite a bunch of gamers to an event and then advertise TV capability's, regardless of appealing to a wider array.

Minato-Namikaze4737d ago

You dont show your "TV side" when you invite gaming media and the people that are watching your reveal are primarly gamers. You do that at CES.

Sitdown4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

The crazy reality is, I have spent more time watching movies on my ps3 than I have playing games on it....if I think about it, probably more movie time logged on the ps3 than gaming time across all the current generation consoles. I feel my passion for gaming is slowly fading...What happened to the good old days of gaming? Things were so much simpler then...

kennyg37394737d ago

@Tomofalltrades, Microsoft said many times before the reveal that E3 is all about the games, and that the reveal will be about the console and the entertainment side.

darthv724737d ago

we got older. Our perceptions have changed. gone are the days of single serve platforms and a new era of multipurpose devices has taken over.

regardless of the percentage of gaming that is done on these new machines, they arent gaming machines in the same sense that we grew up on.

kingPoS4736d ago

Many who think it can stand on it's own as a cablebox will be disappointed. That's why many prefer a Tivo to get out of an unwanted lease.

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Blachek4737d ago

I'm going to avoid commenting on the obviously clouded opinion that is the first line of your comment and focus on what you followed it up with.

"4>1"
This screams fan-boy and tells me right away to discredit whatever you posted earlier. Even if it happened to be remotely intelligent.

MysticStrummer4737d ago

"4>1" screams fanboy?

Why?

Microsoft opened themselves up to that by choosing One for the name, and PS4 is clearly better than One if gaming is mainly what a person wants from their console. The specs alone prove that, but of course it's up to developers to make use of those specs.

DJMarty is wrong to call it a cable box though, because it still needs a cable box hooked up to it.

darthv724737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

True MS picked it as the name but they are using the word form not the numerical form.

It should be pointed out that while the numerical form of 4 is greater than 1, in popular culture we generally associate the numbers as a form of rank. Like in lists where numbers are counted down to the #1 rank.

Now that is obviously not the way MS is phrasing the system but the fans are going about using the numbers in what they consider is appropriate without taking into consideration the more common ranking association.

Back to the name itself....I'd preferred infinity or infinite instead but....this was their call not mine.

As to the "cable box" thing. It can be used in conjunction with an existing system if the user does not wish to use the various apps that are available via the live marketplace.

andibandit4737d ago

Well, it's either a huge success or a huge failure. One of my friends said that MS would try to work out deals with the major cable companies, kinda like when you get an iphone for 1$ if you buy a subscription at X company.
Well looks like he's right
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...

Now i know sky is a UK company but im sure MS already have deals in place with american companies.

Anyone else worried that Spybox will outsell PS4 for all the wrong reasons?

MysticStrummer4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

"Anyone else worried that Spybox will outsell PS4 for all the wrong reasons?"

No. I never cared that 360 was ahead of PS3 for such a long time, though it did mystify me greatly. As long as PS4 sells well enough to be supported I'll be happy, and there's no doubt in my mind that it will sell enough for that.

Secondly, One's online requirement will cost MS a lot of sales worldwide. A huge number of 360s weren't played online. A significant number of people who bought a 360 won't be buying a One for that reason alone. Add in some other One "features" that many people aren't happy with, and I don't see One outselling PS4 worldwide.

Thirdly, not everyone with a cable box will be able to use it with the One. Some Ones might be returned when people get them home and find out they can't use it's TV functions at all.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/...

Lastly, One won't support SDTVs, which is another thing that will cost MS many sales worldwide.

http://www.escapistmagazine...

MS has made some highly questionable decisions with One.

Anon19744737d ago

A little old, isn't this? Why are we submitting a two week old preview now?

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loulou4737d ago

anychance of discussion is destroyed on here now..

and the mods are no where to be seen as usual

CRAIG6674737d ago

HOW COME NO ONE GRUMBLES ABOUT USED GAMES WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICES SUCH AS STEAM ETC...

BulletToothtony4737d ago

Because the games are cheaper, much cheaper, on release day they're already $10 less than consolers and usually a month later they're already 39.99 and they only drop after that, sometimes selling for as little as $4 to $5 for a weekend.

I would much rather pay $40 for a game on release date even thou i couldn't resell it, I mean let's admit it, we know pretty good by now if a game is gonna be decent by the time it releases, and it's fine if i'm not be able to resell it. But paying $60 or maybe even more since pricing hasn't been confirmed this gen, and then not be able to resell it I'm simply not ok with that.

You have a pic of Bioshock on your avatar, that's a game worth full price and I won't resell that thing, but some games come on. But it comes down to you, if you have the money then you won't care. Some of us go low on money sometimes and we trade or sell a game in order to get a new one.

Lower the price by a lot and I'll be ok with this used games stuff.

CRAIG6674736d ago

That's a good point you make about pricing although not strictly true, take Borderlands 2 for instance, much better deals available for console users,otherwise I would probably be playing it on PC.In general though you are correct,hopefully this pricing anomaly is something that is tightened up going into the next gen...

I certainly don't consider myself rich though, purchasing a new game is a once in a while luxury but I do admit that I very rarely sell my games,nostalgia being the main reason, I often think back and wish I hadn't sold such n' such SNES or Dreamcast game,emulators are one thing but it's just not the same.

I don't think selling or trading in games will be an issue for xbox one owners, the issue may well be that buying 2nd games may be alot more expensive than we are used too, I don't mind too much though because atleast this way a cut of the proceeds will end up in the hands of the people who deserve it - the developers. Too many studio's are going out of business, hopefully this will give the industry as a whole a little more stability.

On a side note,as with xbox 360 and PS3 games the price for new games generally comes down over time, You can often pick up games for under £15 on the 360 dashboard, I can't see that changing.

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle27d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7727d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7732d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300033d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7232d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit32d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania33d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit32d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0732d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr32d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box32d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr32d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9532d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7232d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--32d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7232d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket32d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm32d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde32d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago (Edited 32d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_33d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted32d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit32d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9232d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT33d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers33d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14932d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0732d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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