Logic usually does win but you dont use it often, i bought a ps3 at launch for $1000 AUS i didnt use BC on it once i didnt even care if it was there, i have a ps1 and a ps2 for the old games and i will have a ps3 for the ps3 games too, i dont need them connected all the time so i therefore can get them out when i feel the need to play an old game.BC is a perk but its not needed for anyone at all.If you have ps3 games you will have a ps3 keep it its that simple, the same as the 360 games keep the 360 if you have one that still works.

@DragonKnight

Lol, just being sarcastic is all. I quite like that tagline though. They could have re-introduced BC on the PS3 quite easily, instead retail prices are kept high by adding bigger HDDs on each new revision. I for one would have taken a smaller HDD with BC present as I had to throw a 500gb drive in within a few months anyway and it worked out a lot cheaper than buying the latest model with a 500gb HDD.

They then make that stack of PS2 games you own available on the PSN or some of them at least, leading you to potentially buy them again.

@Logicwins

I'd like to think it will be like a streamlined PSN+. Subscribe and you get a few free games a month or something plus beta access etc. Non-subscribers can buy but don't get the free games.

A nice thought but I guess the jury is still out on what Gaikai will actually bring us.

Right! Thats what Sony will do. PS Plus members will have digital BC. Over the next 6-7 years, Sony will rebuild peoples libraries with "free" PS Plus titles. The only difference this time around is that you will never run out of space because everything is in the cloud.

Effectively, you ARE paying for BC, but your getting back your old games are a deep discount($50-$70 a year would net you a few PS3 games a month).

At E3, I bet Sony will announce that they will offer the entire Killzone, GOW, and Uncharted franchises for free on PS Plus if you sign up for Gaikai this year.

If Sony release a $600 PS4, they will never see the end of it. Media will eat them alive.

Just like PS3, $600 for PS3 was very justifiable, the machine had blu ray, wifi, HDD, BC. it was fully equipped compared to MS embarrassing early X360 model that lacked even an HD port, no HDD, no wifi, DVD only. but guess what happend?

Media started an all war @ Sony without any consideration of what PS3 offered, for the simple fact that its a Video game console, it shouldn't be expensive. and MS got a free pass for its engineering embarrassment (early X360 models).

@ Logic actually Sony did a poll for the people who bought original PS3s asking if they use their PS3 to play PS2 games and they didnt use them to play PS2 games. I was one of those who didnt use it and was honest in the poll. People make a bigger deal out of it, mostly the people who never intend to buy the consoles near launch. Because console architectures are unique, which makes it so they can be optimized fully for gaming while being more affordable then a gaming rig there are some sacrifices. I believe that eventually backwards compatibility will make it back into consoles but not when there will be such a night and day difference between architectures.

Also at the end of the day just keep your PS3s if you want to play them still. If your one of those trade-in people its probably not worth it anyway getting like 40-50 dollars for a 150-200 dollar ps3.

@caseh

*******"They could have re-introduced BC on the PS3 quite easily, instead retail prices are kept high by adding bigger HDDs on each new revision. I for one would have taken a smaller HDD with BC present...

They then make that stack of PS2 games you own available on the PSN or some of them at least, leading you to potentially buy them again."*******

PS2 BC for the PS3 was done via hardware. I don't know how they would be able to the put the PS2 hardware into the revised PS3 models as one, they were smaller which means less room and two, since the console is revised I doubt it's built the same exact way as the original model was which would mean possible over heating issues and other possible conflicts of trying to avoid making the PS2 and PS3 hardware interfere with each other while at the same time using cheaper parts and making the console size smaller.

In short it's not as easy as you think it is. People keep saying that they remove it to make you repurchase games, but then why do the have PS1 BC yet still have PS1 games in the PS store? Also have you ever repurchased a PS2 game you already owned? I haven't bought any PS2 game off the PS store and don't plan to unless a game on there is one that I want to play and I don't currently OWN it. I know most people have this stance as well as it wouldn't make sense for you to buy a game you already own. Just play it on the PS2 if you already own the game and want to play it sooo badly.

@BitbyDeath

I don't mind the idea of individual pricing for games on Gaikai, but only if Sony could some how make it so that games that you already own are free. That is true BC.

Sony are quite generous with free games on PS+ but access to hundreds of thousands of games for a once a year fee through Gaikai does not sound very likely. IMO

I'd imagine the games will just be individually priced.