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Restricting Pre-Owned Games: A Bad Idea

Restricting used games is a bad idea in my mind. Here is why. (Gamersbliss.com)

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ApolloTheBoss4738d ago (Edited 4738d ago )

You can't even begin to imagine the impending catastrophe. Once mommy and daddy realize they can't save a couple bucks for their kid when COD: Ghosts is a few weeks old, all hell's about to break loose.

MultiConsoleGamer4738d ago

First reply nails it.

Not only is it a terrible idea but it also shut a large portion of gamers out of the market.

GameReviewGuy4738d ago

I really want to see when retailers start taking preorders on the next gen systems, what the numbers will be. I'll be shocked it PS4 is not dominating. Of course we should wait to see what happens at E3 though. I'm really hoping that Sony will see the backlash and say that it will play used PS4 games.

Sharius4738d ago

let me tell you something, i hear that many ppl claim this restrict because of store like gamestop or gamefly makeing benefit from what they don;t have a right to, and the secondhand market is destroying the gaming industry

but i think that, is not true, the secondhand market is on every industry, it's exist from the first day of economy, and is the company have to adapt with that market by make better good which everyone want to buy

and do you really belive store like GS, don't deserver the money because they sell use game, not quite my friends, i think they deserver this because they don't sell used game, they sell your LAZYNESS, many of country don't have store like GS, the used game just the trade between gamer and gamer, we have to find someone to buy it and make the deal

with GS you guys just have to bring the used game to the store and sell them simple and easy, and of course GS just make the benefit by finding someone lazy than you, who dont want to search to find himself but go to the used store because this is more easier

DarkBlood4738d ago (Edited 4738d ago )

Im sorry i tried to understand what your saying but it is making no sense and a little bit of sense at the same time

tweet754738d ago

i dont think the second hand industry has any where near the impact they think it does.

caseh4738d ago

Same can be said of piracy, its been around since the days of the ye olde Spectrum yet the gaming industry is far more profitable now than its ever been.

Say hello to Activision breaking 1bil with a single release of CoD in about 2 weeks.

hazelamy4737d ago

i think it has more impact than they think actually.

firstly, most trade ins go towards the purchase of new games.

secondly, the profits from preowned sales allow stores to sell games for less than the rrp, at least in the uk it does.

so i have no doubt, blocking used game sales will do the publishers more harm than good in the long run.

of course they're too short sighted and greedy to consider that side of the argument.

mcstorm4737d ago

I agree with you here. I don't tend to buy used games but games like fifa ect I trade in each year and get the new one. It only knocks a few £s off the mew game and it saves me having lots of games in my collection that I will never play.

So as for buying games it will not affect me but might make me think before getting a game like fifa every year.

GameReviewGuy4737d ago

Totally agree. Most people sell games to get more games so the money is typically staying within the industry.

rainslacker4737d ago

If it were they would be able to back up their claims with cold hard facts. Publishers have many statistics and facts to determine if it's a problem, yet none of them share it. Their claims are no different than the piracy claims on it's effect, although I do believe piracy had a more negative impact.

This is a must watch video from Jimquisition I think. He goes into this topic and it's hard to argue his reasons.

http://n4g.com/news/1265674...

tweet754737d ago

i remember some pirated nes carts and pirated "porn" games on the snes

ziggurcat4738d ago

helloooooo captain obvious.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn220d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown20d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac19d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger20d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300020d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde20d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7521d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.