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How Used Games Could Work Next Gen

With all the talk spawning from the XBox One reveal last week, one of the subjects that is sticking hard to gamers is DRM and getting a handle on the Used/Rental Game Market. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a big supporter of the Used market personally but I understand that it is there. As an IT professional we are trained in licensing and accept that you do not see a used software market. So is there a solution that can work for the industry? I think there is a fine line that could work.

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Iceman_Nightmare4742d ago

That idea doesnt work, I buy a game disc I own it. You can't tell me I can't sell something I own and the person who buys it has to pay a extra fee. That is BS

urgentfury4742d ago (Edited 4742d ago )

At no point does it say anywhere you cant sell it. It says that if you sell it to a store, the stores have to work out a deal to include a reactivation key if needed when they sell the used game

JokesOnYou4742d ago

Iceman did you even read it?

Of course you can sell your games, the issue has been about the fees attached for another user/family/friend.

Muerte24944742d ago

proof that Sony doesn't plan on DRM like Microsoft wants you to believe.

Joystiq interview with Yoshida, on Sony and always online
http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

"Did we consider it? No, we didn't consider it," Yoshida said. "The main reason being that many countries don't have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet."

Yoshida with Eurogamer on being connected

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Shuhei Yoshida:Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.

Microsoft is forcing this with any game that is on the XBox:ONE. Sony on the other had, is leaving up to the individual publisher/developer. Sony is doing what they've always done, offering developers and consumers a choice.

MysticStrummer4742d ago

Your disagrees must be from people who can't read. But if they can't read, how can they have an opinion about what you posted? They also can't know for sure if they pressed agree or disagree.

Mind = boggled

urgentfury4742d ago

The article is not about XB1 vs PS4, this is a suggestion solution for giving the gamers the ability to buy/sell, rent and lend games.

We are very aware that PS4 will allow you to play used games and there is no mention of the always online even in the article.

Did you read it?

ginsunuva4742d ago

PC games are all code-activated and cannot be sold, because you don't have a physical copy: PC discs are just alternatives to downloading because you install it to your pc anyway and use a key to avoid inserting the disk each time.

Also, we can't sell our paid mobile apps or computer software such as MS Office or Photoshop, can we?

Games are transitioning from being physical media to just software that comes on a disc as an option if downloading is too large. Plus, wouldn't people who download a game get less value since they can't resell it?

Movies have done it as well. Most movie purchases today are digital downloads. Can you sell your copy? No.

004742d ago

Pc gaming and console gaming are two different things.

the xbone is a really shitty PC without anything that makes it great.

Supermax4742d ago

People don't read anymore they need others to hold there hands threw life.

Bigpappy4742d ago

There are solutions, but they all revolve around activation keys and internet connection. The keys would work, and M$ already manages billions of software installs with windows.

Sony could easily adopt this. It would cost them up front, but they will get a cut of the use game market for their studios.

MysticStrummer4742d ago

PS4 never has to be online. I doubt Sony will have a system where only online connected consoles can play used games.

Lvl_up_gamer4742d ago

You do know that Destiny is an always online game right? Your PS4 will HAVE to always be online if you ever want to play that game.....

MysticStrummer4742d ago (Edited 4742d ago )

Of course. What does that have to do with anything??? O.o

There are online only games already.

I'm not sure what your point is.

Obviously people who don't have their console connected online can't play Destiny, or Defiance, or MAG, or Warhawk, or others I can't think of at the moment.

Exactly, Dude. (I refuse to call you Sexy)

SexyGamerDude4742d ago

@Lvl_up_gamer You do know that there is a difference between a console requiring you to be online and a game doing it, right? Destiny features MMO type gameplay. Most MMOs require internet.

Retroman4742d ago (Edited 4742d ago )

ehh, speaking for myself i rather buy discount used game than spending 64.00 a copy.

ginsunuva4742d ago

Used is almost always $5 below the new amount. So you'd just be paying a measly $5 less, and the developers get 0% of your money. So you'd be spending $59 instead of the enormously larger $64.

If a game is $30 used, then trust me, the new copy is $35.

rainslacker4742d ago (Edited 4742d ago )

In this I"m assuming we're talking GameStop, in which case you are mostly right, $5 is the common difference. It's sometimes more depending on the title, how much used stock they have, and the over all desirability of that title. I've seen used games that are priced $15-20 less than new, but it's not overly common. Most titles that have gone irrelevant to the majority of gamers(over 6 months old) tend to be about $10 less used.

One reason for the $5 price difference though, is that on a $55 used game, the reward zone card knocks another $5 off, so you are getting $10 off. Now, that may not seem like much, but it is an appreciable difference. most people don't consider $5 much...it's the cost of a lunch, but a ten spot breaks that barrier of "is it worth the value" question. For many, the answer is "Yes, saving $10 is worth it".

I've been in gamestop enough to hear them push their cards on people buying used with this practice, saying that by getting the card, it'd be like paying only be $9.99 for the card itself, because of the money they'd save on the game. This is particularly true if the customer is trading in or buying several games, as sometimes they actually save money by doing so.

Then you have to factor in all the specials they run on used games, like BOGO, or additional discounts, etc.

Not condoning or condemning the practice, just saying that the difference is often more than $5.

Retroman4742d ago (Edited 4742d ago )

@ ginsunuva

dont know about you guys $5.00 below the new price
but i buy used games on Amazon 14.99-11.99 sometimes 9.99 ps3 used games.

C-Thunder4742d ago

Microsoft could just require the disk be in the system...problem solved. They want the drm, they want the fees. They haven't even mentioned the developers getting a cut, so far it's all ms and the publisher....greedy f**ks

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA22d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY22d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay22d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos22d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7222d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY22d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator22d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum22d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z22d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad23d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga23d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot22d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose23d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE23d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername22d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy23d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde22d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8622d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8622d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole23d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300023d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot23d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle23d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7722d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments