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Xbox Done: Why Xbox One can't win

Has Microsoft doomed the Xbox One before it's even released?

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FrigidDARKNESS4727d ago

Never heard of this site.
Fanboy troll thread nothing to see here at all.
All these troll threads folks must be insecure.

Snookies124727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

Too much for me to read through at the moment, but I've not heard of the site either.

JokesOnYou4727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

Well if you look at it its just some random guy/site that nobody's ever heard of spewing nonsense like this:

"Before we get into the ugliness of the system, let’s first go over the ridiculous name that is so bad it makes “Wii U” look like a good name to give to a gaming system. There are many, many reasons why the name “Xbox One” is a stupid name. For one (ha)"

-I mean who besides only the most loyal sonyfanboy would bother with this site....that's why its irrevelant what silly sites like this say. The top gaming sites are far more balanced which is why they have much much more traffic.

HammadTheBeast4727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

This is an opinion piece.

Jokes on you.

Same way you defend MS, they can attack it.

LOGICWINS4726d ago

^^But you need a rational basis to attack or defend something. Does anyone here ACTUALLY believe that the Xbox One has ZERO chance of doing well?

MysticStrummer4726d ago

@Logic - You've been on N4G for a long time. You should know very well by now that opinion pieces don't need a rational basis. Flame bait opinion pieces are the very foundation of N4G.

JokesOnYou4726d ago

Logic you are correct, unfortunately Mystic is right about this site, "Logic" does not apply here in this fictional world known as n4g.

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Muerte24944727d ago (Edited 4727d ago )

the author is free to express his opinion, just like you're free to disagree with it. People are thinking 3rd party isn't going to support Sony if they don't block used games. Some not all third party developers are supporting Wii U even though there is no blocking used games. PS4, just like the Wii U, doesn't require an internet connection to play games.

Things we know:
*PS4 doesn't need an internet connection to function
*PS4 doesn't require mandatory installs
*Sony focuses on the world as a whole and not just one region like Microsoft
*Publishers cannot afford to support only Xbox:ONE

Joystiq interviewing Yoshida on Sony considering always online.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

"Did we consider it? No, we didn't consider it," Yoshida said. "The main reason being that many countries don't have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet."

Bigpappy4726d ago

"*Publishers cannot afford to support only Xbox:ONE"

Which system can they only support.

"*Sony focuses on the world as a whole and not just one region like Microsoft"

M$ spend and waste more money in Japan that it does in the Americas. They compete everywhere else. Actually more games were bought on 360 than PS3. That is what higher attach rates mean when the number of console sales are close.

When you say: "Things we know", who exactly is 'we' referring to.

Muerte24944726d ago

is referring to actual facts. Nintendo didn't block used games and they still receive support from the 3rd party community, including EA. If you think that any 3rd party developer is going to skip on the ps4 this day in age, you're insane. Xbox 1 was built for America only and an older version of it. Not many people still watch live TV on cable. Microsoft doesn't really compete in Europe either.

MysticStrummer4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

Yeah since when have opinion pieces been allowed on N4G!!!

Oh yeah.

They've been allowed all along.

Carry on.

I definitely think it's possible for Neo (The One) to win, but not against Sony and Nintendo because MS isn't competing with them anymore. If One does well other companies, including Sony, will make something similar. If that happens, Sony and MS will be competing again.

I also disagree that WiiU is a better name. One makes sense because MS is starting over with a new product, not making a new game console.

Elzer4726d ago

Gaikai will not be anything else but streaming. Those who praise Gaikai and think that they can imitate microsoft future computing cloud system is wrong. PS4 infustricture was not made with that vision in mind.
Gaikai as a replacement for backwards compatiblitiy is a joke. Those who want to play ps1, ps2, ps3 games already owns these systems and already played the games in which they will stream from Gaikai. Why waste effort/money to repurchase these games on Gaikai knowing that streaming a game will no doubt have latency/lag response. Only 5 percent of people actually play games from non current gen systems. Something tells me if your playing a ps3 game there must be something wrong with the PS4 launch line up.

The point of Xbox One's 3 operating systems is not to focus on tv or other entertainment features. Thats just an extra feature thats real good. Think about it. When your watching tv no longer does your friends have to call you or check their phone app to check if yor online. Now with xbox interface on top of tv your game invites, game messages, game voice messages will never be missed. This is one great perk for core gamers. Admit it or not. It is... One great cable box!!!

horndog4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

N4G is just flooded with this type of crap. Never seen so manny fanboys trying so hard to convince people not to buy a product. Im certainly getting an xboxone perhaps even two for upstairs. I cant wait

Clarence4726d ago

You never seen so manny fanboys trying so hard to convince people not to buy a product.

Stop lying. When the PS3 came out N4g and most of the media tried to convince people not to buy the PS3.

@Elzer the xbox 1 is not backwards compatible. Tell me what M$ is doing about that?

Why waste money paying full price for a use game just so you can play it on the betamax one.

Oh you need to work on your grammar

TheSurg4726d ago

And yet, you get plenty of disagrees and almost no agrees. That actually shows how right you are, all those fanboy trolls rage right now.

Elzer4726d ago (Edited 4726d ago )

Lets face it... the uture is about all our devices being connected to the internet. Xbox will need to be connected and it will do things ps4 cant do 5-10years down the road.. You all wont be living under a cave forever... You all wont be using dial-up forever... If your a core gamer.... You play online multiplayer... If youve experience lag online, it becomes a crappy experience, wont be any different with microsoft cloud computing server. It Will give you that same crappy experience... Nothing new here folks! Microsoft azure cloud computing power is a gain to gamers and not a loss...

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Count4727d ago

Obvious flame bait article is obvious.

Xbox Done for a title, a picture of a VCR with an Xbox logo. And this is represented by the very guy that wrote this article.

Amazing.

Credibility straight out the window.

DiRtY4727d ago

on other sites / forums you get banned for trolling for this. On N4G it is news. Gives you an idea how this site is doing.

MysticStrummer4726d ago

According to my screen, this is under Articles/Opinions. Not News.

Flame bait opinion pieces have been N4G's bread and butter ever since I can remember.

JohnApocalypse4726d ago

Why is everyone making final judgement over one bloody hour long press conference?

DARK WITNESS4726d ago

it may seem like everyone is flipping out over just 1hr worth of conference, but if you are an xbox fan lets face it, this thing has been building up for months now.

horror_spooky4726d ago

It's not flame bait.

It is my opinion based on accurate information and a funny picture that just happens to address my point of the console's ugliness very well.

Since the vast majority of people on the Internet, especially N4G users, are anti-Xbox One, who, exactly, am I baiting?

OC_MurphysLaw4727d ago

Classic N4G journalism. He poses a question as the brief intro of the article...but he already answered his own question with the title. Really no reason to read it.

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TechnicianTed4726d ago

I'm not keen on the new Xbox at all, but his points seem to contradict. He is negative about Xbox One for being reliant on being online, and yet seemingly praises Sony for backwards compatibility capabilities that require you being online.

Besides, having a headline with 'Xbox Done' is pretty childish.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot7d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle7d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk777d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7711d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300012d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7212d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit12d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania12d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit12d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0711d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr12d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr12d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9512d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7212d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--12d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7212d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket12d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm12d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde12d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_12d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted12d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit12d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT12d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers12d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14912d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0711d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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