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#PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES

There is a movement going on at NeoGAF to enlighten Sony on how gamers feel about the blocking of used games next generation and the potential DRM issues. This movement has been spurred by the recent Xbox One reveal, with Microsoft all but confirming that the Xbox One will block used games in some manner. Early reports are also leading gamers to believe that the console will have a 24 hour DRM check, though the penalties have yet to be illuminated to the press and gamers. PlayStation fans have taken to twitter in a move to discourage Sony from potentially following suit behind Microsoft.

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ltachiUchiha4749d ago

The thing that is great about sony is they will listen & if this will help them get a one up on microsoft , you can best believe they will use this to their advantage & for us gamers sake. I trust sony will do the right thing.

whoyouwit044749d ago

Keep thinking that, you Sony fans are in for a rude awakening. Geoff said it write, you people are holding Sony as the white knight, but there are already sources pointing to them blocking used games.

ZodTheRipper4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

After all the statements made until today, I'm rather positive than negative right now. Sony said they'll let the publishers decide & that you can use the console without an internet connection, so everything points in a direction that benefits us gamers.

GamersRulz4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

Just like the rude awakening MS gave you. I mean, damn, always online, no used games and pathetic system specs.

EDIT:
Lets not forget, beautiful Kinect always watching and listening 24/7

TwistedMetal4749d ago

No you xbox one fanboys had a rude awakening. you all kept saying they were just rumors wait for the reveal on may 21 and bam look at what happen you guys got smacked across the mouth with a shi7 box one. sony will listen and do what is right and you will buy

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BlaqMagiq244749d ago

Show some proof that Sony is going in that direction. Oh wait there is none. I don't know how you Xbox fanboys can keep defending what's basically a cable box. Sony actually cares about gamers unlike Micro$oft.

NatureOfLogic4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

Why do people think that Sony has to follow in MS's footsteps? Lets not forget that MS has only had one successful console which still failed to out sale Playstation. If Sony chooses to not block used games they win by default for a number of reason. First, they win the gamers, then they win those with no internet or HDTV. EA and other third parties won't risk losing Sony and Nintendo sales just to be exclusive to Xbox One. Would be stupid for EA/big third parties to ignore Sony and Nintendo just because one console does something the others don't. They'll risk way to much trying to make a foolish statement on used games. That's why the NEED Sony in on this to be successful, not the other way around.

Why wouldn't Sony use this as a chance to have a HUGE advantage over the competition and a great chance sell more consoles.

Heisenburger4749d ago

" Geoff said it write..."

*walks away laughing*

Cha0tik4749d ago

Sounds like someone is sad that MS failed them. Can't wait to see Sony rub it in your face for this pathetic attempt to kill our buzz.

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GamersRulz4749d ago

Slightly OT, a month ago didn't MS report that " We never considered an always-online console"

What a bunch of liers!

abc12334749d ago

They're not exactly liars, they're planning on forcing a connection every 24 hours or so rather than all the time. They do have a career waiting for them in politics though...

stage884749d ago

That's why I'll never trust MS.
And that's why a MS console will never enter my house.
And that's why MS should bow out of the console business and be replaced by a more reputable company that gamers actually like.

famoussasjohn4749d ago

BlaqMagiq24- If there's no evidence, then why are people hopping on twitter making up hashtags thinking this would ever change anything? They'd listen to shareholders more than people on twitter.

joeorc4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

" They'd listen to shareholders more than people on twitter. "

Y yes Sony would do that listen to Investor's over the consumer, even when a hedge fund would give 2 billion extra in backing its a good thing Sony took it and jumped at the chance...Oh wait a min!

they over @ Sony said No!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

And their share's on top of that fell like a rock for saying No! so that far and away say's how they choose investor's wish's over consumer's wish's.

Sony just turned down 2 billion!

whoyouwit044749d ago

You people don't even need to waist your time, Sony already stated it was up to the developers. If Microsoft blocks used game there is no way developers will allow Sony not to. especially when Sony are the one who have this patent; yet, you people think you can convince them differently. Used game may be a thing of the past, you will just have to except it. Yea, it's f@#k up, but there are more things to life.

ltachiUchiha4749d ago

Yeah but u act like thats going to happen to every game on ps4 mate. The difference is microsoft wants every game to have this including their own. Sony left it to developers & its smart because lets say a big game like assassins creed 4 decides to do this & they see a drop in sales because of it. You really think other devs will want to do that & hurt potential sales? Of course not. Thats why sony is leaving it up to devs.

ZodTheRipper4749d ago

What makes you think that Microsoft has the same influence on publishers, developers and the industry as Sony? Do you really think any of those people were pleased with the direction Microsoft is heading with it's Xbox?

NewEra74749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

Dont bother his brain can't compute logical statements.

SexyGamerDude4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

"If Microsoft blocks used game there is no way developers will allow Sony not to"

So, are the developers playing favorites with Nintendo or something?
"No used games Sony and Microsoft! Oh, but it's okay for you Nintendo."

Face it. Microsoft chose this route and nobody forced them.

DeadlyAssassin4749d ago

EA said Hi.

" The publisher has definitively stated that many of its biggest 2013 games are not planned for Wii U, including Battlefield 4, Madden 25 and, most recently, FIFA 14. We've contacted EA to see if we can clear things up."
http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

amiga-man4749d ago

If Sony keep their first party titles DRM free that will do me, any 3rd party games that have any form of DRM will not see me spend a penny of my money on them.

Are you listening EA?

DeadlyAssassin4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

Wait I thought it was already settled that PS4 will definitely allow used games without DRM or Fee. The President already told us that, why you all panicking and sending tweets to beg if it was confirmed already? You guys don't trust Sony or something?

LightofDarkness4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

Well, no. They've said you can play used games on PS4, and said they have a model in place that they will give more details on later. Kind of like MS did, but they did stipulate that it will be up to publishers/developers.

I imagine they have a similar system in place that publishers can choose to avail of if they want to. Sadly, I imagine a majority of them will opt in.

They also said you can play offline, but MS are also saying that. Take everything with a pinch of salt, I trust Sony for now but they too haven't divulged much, despite subtly hinting at some similar policies.

Neither one has promised that things will be the same. No one has said you can still walk into Gamestop and trade in a game as usual and GS decide on the resale value. They've both said they have "a system in place" but only MS has unveiled the devil in those details. Both have stated and continue to state that you can play offline, but neither has said that you never need to go online even once to play games (again, MS has let some of this slip out while Sony haven't).

I'm betting on Sony to do the right thing. But I won't be surprised if they don't. Publishers and developers have had a LOT of say in how each machine was developed, and they'd be very much for this kind of thing. They would likely have put a LOT of pressure on both Sony and MS to make something like this happen, and neither one could afford to say absolutely no. The thing that gives me hope for Sony is their allowance for indies to self publish, which will win them a lot of fans in the indie development community and ensure that all that XBLA talent starts to move over to the bright side of the road.

But again, time will tell.

Hazzinho104749d ago

I really hope Sony take note of this, I was expecting to get the new Xbox and PS4, dependent on what Sony say I could be going to PC instead and giving up on consoles.

Vames4749d ago (Edited 4749d ago )

What happens when you switch to PC? Similar policy. Many PC games require a Steam account, once the game is installed and linked with Steam, you can never resell it. So in a sense, it is even worse with PC gaming.

The thing is though, PC gamers have come to accept this because games are so cheap on Steam, so it defeats the purpose for wanting to purchase someone's used game.

It has been said before by many, and I will say it again. PC gaming leads the way, Consoles follow. Then again, Console gaming DRM seems more draconian with always online.

LeRise4749d ago

Nope, PC is not Steam and Games for Windows only.
You can purchase DRM-free games if the author wants that.
You can even launch an executable file for youself, no shops needed! PC is not a fixed corporation platform, it's free for all.

And that's why I consider PC as one of my next-gen devices. What will be the second? - that's the question.

duli144749d ago

Sony sells alot of hardware in third world countries so I'm not sure they would do this.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai29d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio28d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing28d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit28d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing28d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted31d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8531d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele30d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk30d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay30d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10131d ago (Edited 31d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit30d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg30d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10130d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14930d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay30d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn231d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn230d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown30d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay30d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay30d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac30d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger31d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde30d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde30d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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