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Microsoft: 'Why Xbox One might fail'

Alive Game Zone - "Why Xbox One might be a an extortion"

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Moonman4723d ago

So far it already has! It needs saving to be quite honest. I have never seen such negative comments coming from the entire gaming community. Not just one "fanboy" base, the entire gaming community.

4Sh0w4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

Well I guess if your definition of failure is bad press then sure its already failed but that's nothing new to consoles remember 360 RROD issues and then ps3 launch press? Those were at even more critical times. Right now there is still plenty of time to recover, plus I don't put too much stock into websites 80% of the people/gamers who are going to purchase these consoles don't read much on the internet about them, they check a few reviews from the the big sites which aren't so doom n gloom btw and then those that do follow gaming news pretty much aren't going to be easily swayed from their choices or already have their mind made up.

No what will matter to gamers is games.

Chuk54723d ago

@4sh0w

Agreed. People really underestimate the short term memory of internet mindshare. $600 for the PS3 at launch? YLOD and RROD? The 3DS failure? People buying Betshda's games by the millions despite their bugs? The original Steam client?

Seriously, people need to chillout. It just makes me laugh because people seem to think they're is no way in hell X1 can succeed. If it's anything, the games indsutry has taught us that the future is as turbulent as the past is easily forgotten.

EasilyTheBest4723d ago

4Sh0w and Chuk5 have already given good replys to Moonman.
You have too laugh at this site.
Theres posters on here that are pointing out the same crap about the Xbox One over and over and over, on every article.
They keep saying, thats it they are never going to buy an Xbox One, the thing is if you look at their posts from months back, they were never ever going to buy one anyhow.

Moonman4723d ago

It needs saving "at E3" or otherwise is what I mean. Better PR, better showing. ;p

Mr_Nuts4723d ago

@EasilyTheBest

*** Theres posters on here that are pointing out the same crap about the Xbox One over and over and over, on every article. ***

Doesn't make them any less true does it

*** You have too laugh at this site. ***

This isn't the only site with people voicing there concerns you know. Microsoft disabled the Youtube comments for a reason you know

DevilishSix4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

You are absolutely right moonman. Some people will accept it like the good little drones they are, while others will not forget this. They may accept it, but they will not forget. IMHO Microsoft has taken a HUGE reputation hit in the gaming industry, this is way beyound what Sony suffered with the PS3 debacle.

Darrius Cole4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

@4Sh0w and Chuk5

The negativity Sony got from the PS3 was nothing like this.

Most of the guys at the hardcore Xbox sites are saying that they are not going to buy the new Xbox One. I know people who have only had Xboxes and have had Xboxes since the release of the first Xbox 1, that say they will get the PS4 and not get the second Xbox 1.

The 360 RROD didn't get close to this degree of negativity either. The negativity that the second Xbox 1 is getting is like nothing I have ever seen before. Microsoft has basically told everyone that they will not give you ownership of your own game. There is no way to spin that.

The entire internet is on fire. The only people who know of this split between people who are livid over this and people have convinced themselves that Sony will do it also, regardless of what Sony execs have said.

If Microsoft doesn't allow used games to be bought, sold, traded and given away as they always has then the mainstream media will report on that before the holidays when everybody starts looking at what to buy.

EDIT:

The people that are most angry are the people that buy consoles first and pay the most for them. If the first year numbers are lop-sided it can have a real snowball effect and affect future views about and sales of.

rainslacker4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

"If Microsoft doesn't allow used games to be bought, sold, traded and given away as they always has then the mainstream media will report on that before the holidays when everybody starts looking at what to buy."

I wouldn't hold your breath for the mainstream media to actually report anything like that. They've stroked MS for so long I don't think they know how to stop. Some outlets may pick it up, but I doubt it's going to make the rounds like most controversial stories do.

The only one I can see maybe going crazy in the mainstream is the always connected Kinect, because people in the US go ape shit bat crazy over the thought of their privacy being infringed, and that leads to good ratings.

One would think that heavy anti-consumer practices would also get that kind of notice, but hell we made corporations people, so yeah.

Maybe the rest of the world could manage it better.

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V0LT4723d ago

It won't fail but it won't thrive like the 360 that's for sure.

dasbeer884723d ago

If Xbox One does fail...it'll probably be like heaven on earth for gamers.

LogicStomper4723d ago

"If Xbox One does fail...it'll probably be like heaven on earth for fanboys."

Edited for you. Gamers want to play games, not sit on the internet hoping one company fails.

Diver4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

gamers also dont want to sit in front of their console to watch
TV.

an where have you been? ms opened the reveal talking about everything but games.

sony didn't stop innovatin on the ps2 even though they were way out front. if the xbone fails and more peeps come to the ps4 sony will jus use that money to innovate even more.

Gildarts4723d ago

That is N4G for you..

Xbox One will not fail. Microsoft will make damn sure of it. With so many complaints. they probably already made changes.

polygons insiders report that there won't be a fee for used games.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Only thing left is the 24hour online check.
Their solution might be that It probably won't be necessary when the disk is inside.

SonyPS44723d ago

I don't want the XOne to fail, I just hope MS will revamp their business tactics and ditch their DRM. Without the DRM, the XOne can be a great next-gen system for gamers.

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Enemy4723d ago

It already has in the consumers' eye. Whether idiots will buy it is another story.

Retroman4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

"WHY X1 might fail

MIGHT?? hell it WILL!!!! fail in hardcore gamers eyes.

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nohopeinc4723d ago

Forcing Kinnect on everybody, enough said. People in suits who clearly have no business taking about a console doing the reveal.. all that time in customer service and you still don't know how to market yourself to your people. The reveal should have been done by someone who actually plays games. Also why did M$ fake the voice commands? Every time he gave a command he put his hands in his pocket. No matter that is just a stupid gimmick anyways.

EasilyTheBest4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

But doesn't the PS4 come with a Kinect like device?

"The reveal should have been done by someone who actually plays games"

E3 is for the games surely...

@ Mr Nuts...

We don't know the full story of any of it yet...
Plus, repeating it on every thread over and over is a completely different thing to having an Adult conversation about it. Its talked about on here as if everything is set in stone. Rumours blown out of proportion while Sony gets nothing much said coz they aint said nothing...

nohopeinc4723d ago

I am not against the camera stuff. With that said why does every single person have to use it to use the console. I can understand boxing with the console. I just don't think that the majority of people who are going to be playing on the XB1 will use it. The reveal was geared towards who? I would say that the average aka casual gamer did not know about the reveal or simply did not give a shit, the people tuning in, well we were hungry for something other than "it takes you TV and lets you watch it on your TV!!!"

I am a die hard XB fan and now I just cannot buy this if I have to have the camera plugged in. We know that part of the story and that is enough, I don't care what the camera is used for I will not have it in my house.

At this rate next generation consoles will do everything in your house except games, examples, XB(2? LAWL) vacuums, can be used as dish washer, used as stove top, can plug internet modem into it so you can run internet out of into computer allowing you to use internet...., also requires a small non invasive 5 hour surgery where a GPS tracking, voice command remote controlled device is implanted into your forehead with a rear and foward facing camera that we swear will NOT be used in the wrong way.

wishingW3L4723d ago

it's not gonna fail but is not gonna do as good as the X360. That's my prediction.

Arkrite4723d ago

been on live gold 7 years and im seriously considering not buying a xbox one i dont want or need kinect i play GAMES 2 feet away from my moniter, As for tv I couldn't give a rats arse about TV most of it is generic shite these days anyway I'm a gamer not a TVer?, always connected is not an issue i have very fast unlimited broadband but 2nd hand games is where they really take the biscuit Imagine buying 2nd hand game £30, activation fee £5?£10? and then an online pass if its not a microsoft game another £6 effing ridiculous last chance for M$ to fix it is E3 i'll make a decision then still getting PS4 unless they come out with same sort of bullshit as these clowns! I hope not but you never know!

fardan854723d ago

Might fail among gamers, but there's a good chance that it will sell good to the public "casual gamers/ people looking for bluray player with extras/ parents buying a cheaper console for their kids, provided that X1 cost less than PS4".
We might see the wii scenario again. Hardware sales top, not much for softwares.

ApolloTheBoss4723d ago (Edited 4723d ago )

Nope. Even casual gamers won't be interested in this crap. Just check yahoo comments pages related to the Xbone. That's where all the casuals are and they are not liking what they hear, trust me. The only people who will end up buying this are those who were just excited to see a new xbox and will buy it on sheer impulse.

mcstorm4723d ago

It all depends on what country you live in depends on what you here.

I live in the uk and most uk game shops are saying they are getting more interest to on the one than ps4. Also my none gaming mates have spoken about the one this weekend and when I tried to talk about the ps4 they said they were not interested.

I have said since the beginning that I think the ps4 Wiiu and Xbox one will all sell well but I don't think there will be an out right winner like the last few gens there will only be a few million between them come the end of the gen.

fardan854723d ago

Poor X1, it looks like it's gonna be death on arrival.
I'm not X1 fan, but I wont ignore the possibilty of success for X1. Fans of MS exclusives might supprt it, some might decide to support the domestic product, along with reasons I mentioned above we might see the success of X1.
I don't want X1 to be successful, frankly because of the way MS is heading. DRM, no used games..etc Gamers should stand together, don't let corporates steal your rights.

SpinalRemains4723d ago

By far, the best article defining all the issues at hand.

Guys/gals, could you imagine borrowing your friends copy of the film Conan on Blu-Ray, only to discover that his machine owns the viewing rights and you have to pay 20 bucks to watch the dam thing? Its disgusting and yet this is EXACTLY what MS is doing with videogames.

Anyone who supports this needs their head checked and temp taken.

This is pure corporate greed to an unprecedented level and we must not allow it!

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle3d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk772d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk777d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30008d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv728d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit7d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania8d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit7d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot077d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr8d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr7d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire958d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv728d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--8d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv727d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket7d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm7d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde7d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster927d ago (Edited 7d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_8d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted8d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit7d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster927d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT8d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers8d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz1498d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot077d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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