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Major Nelson: Policies are still being finalized

Xbox Live director of programming responds about policy decisions.

NeverEnding19894755d ago

a.k.a. we got so much flak that we're going back to the drawing board.

Great!

FAT MAN GO BOOM4755d ago

Yeah you are right, That feed back was to over whelming and they are just back peddling...

When they had all the messages so confused. PR would say one thing, one executive would say one thing than another would say something different...

I think they were testing the waters... make things worst than they seem and see what is the worst thing they could get away with....

Fee for games on the same box but a different user account... Crazy right... Bit when E3 comes and they say well a small fee for used games... game is tied to just the system now matter which account on the system is being used... game will still play....

Than people will say oh well thats not so bad.... lol....

MikeMyers4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

Sony was also vague. What we have here are publishers like EA trying to change those policies. Things are likely to be worse for Microsoft because some of those policies will have to deal with cable providers. They are worse to deal with than game publishers.

Sony made these same exact comments, they too are waiting before finalizing used games and how they will be utilized. This is one big cluster**** but we will know the full details well before these systems get released. In typical Internet forum fashion the world is ending yet again.

gaffyh4755d ago

@mike- Sony will not block used games, trust me. Not blocking it will mean that consumers will be way happier, and importantly retailers will be way happier, meaning more promotion for the PS4 over the Xbox in stores. Microsoft have basically handed the generation to Sony on a silver platter if they play their cards right.

MikeMyers4755d ago

gaffyh, why should I trust you? They were also very vague on the exact details. They too are trying to finalize everything. Something is going on behind the scenes we don't know about yet. Sony also adopted online passes so it's not something out of reach for them to do something that locks the content to your account.

Ashlen4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

No they won't. This is a stalling tactic.

"0box' will block used game sales.

The money and agreements made with publishers will not allow them to deviate from the course they have already agreed to in backroom deals.

dedicatedtogamers4755d ago

Because they totally went back to the drawing board after the Adam Orth #dealwithit debacle...

...oh wait.

stuna14755d ago

We all saw how fast they got rid of his azz! Then look at the incident with the guy who had the dev. kit! The FBI became involved.

The imformation from those 2 sources was pretty accurate, and they were silenced.

Microsoft is known for underhanded tactics, that why I never take anything they say for face value.

Seeing is believing.

Sky_Walker4755d ago

This is good news and this is why people should not be defensive about negative XB1 articles.

Social media reception and gaming websites input on the XB1 has a huge impact on what MS showed and trust me they are listing and reading.

Hopefully this current used game thing can get more attention and reach big names like CNN and BBC so MS can change it at E3.

stuna14755d ago

How are they going to change it if it's built into the console? This is not something that happened overnight! This is something that they have been planning potentially this whole generation.

For all we know it could of been them that actually came up with season passes and used games multiplayer codes! They have been bedfellows with EA for quite some time.

Sky_Walker4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

@Stunna - You are correct...well in any case I think MS just loss at least 40% of its fanbase with this no use games policy.

The scary thing is that what if MS had discussed this with all of the major gaming publishers before hand...if names like Konami, Capcom, Ubi Soft, Bethesda, Take-Two, EPIC and many more all ok'd MS to do this then this could mean that Sony might not have an option but to do the same as publishers will want to show the XB1 more love because thats where the revenue is at.

Remember Sony said it was up to the developers to block used games so we might be looking at the death of used games next gem :(

maniacmayhem4755d ago

@Skywalker

About your third party comment, I also believe this is true. Sony may have no choice but to go the same route since 99% of the big publishers and devs want to kill used games anyways.

It really is a shame if this turns out to be true.

The policies that maybe Nelson is referring too might be the other story of Indies not being able to publish their own game which makes absolutely no sense when Nintendo and Sony are allowing it. Hopefully, maybe, they can at least change that and save some face.

wantonGamer4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

Not really.

They're just saying this to calm people down so that the negative responses don't bury the new XBox before it hits the stores even.

Eldyraen4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

Unfortunately that is partly true--on the actual gaming side of things there isn't much to write about other than the negatives. Remedy news was great but that trailer can't carry the rest of the show (and inevitable third party corporate partners are nothing special).

majiebeast4755d ago

If they have a deal in place with EA they cant backpedal.

Cueil4755d ago

no... I think it's really in flux... to many people have said to many things

3-4-54755d ago

They are playing games with us and using us as a test. It's pathetic really. I expected more from Microsoft and the Xbox One.

These 8 unknown games better be awesome for me to even consider now.

I love the controller, but if focus isn't on gaming then I'm out.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144755d ago

a.k.a we have no idea what we're doing.

Prcko4755d ago

I thought they are 6 months behind schedule,after yesterday,they are a whole generation behind.

Conan-O-Brady4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

Funny stuff and so true, Have a bubble.

cleft54755d ago

If I have to pay to play a used game on the Xbox One, then that is One less console for me to buy.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio29d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing29d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9229d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit29d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing29d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9229d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay31d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn232d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn231d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown31d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay31d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay31d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac31d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger31d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300031d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde31d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde31d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7532d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_30d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.