I'm confused.
Some devs love it, others cant be bothered. Some say its under powered, some say its very capable IF you take time to understand its mechanics.
Crytek said the WiiU cant handle its engine, but Shadow of the Eternals which uses the Crytek engine will be available for WiiU.

EA ain't releasing jack sh!t for the WiiU (or 3DS) but they have strong ties with them.

So WTF is going on here?!
Even Iwata said the kit was capable to run any new games.

Nintendo needs to clarify things and stay on top of this.

I think Nintendo needs to launch a new console in 2013

The title of this article is a bit misleading, basically he's saying the install base right now is too risky for them to release a game for the console at this time, but that they want to at some point.

3rd party companies really need to try to build relationships with Nintendo(and vice versa) and work together to create a mutually beneficial business environment.

so much hate on wiiU

I don´t care.

I will buy it anyway.

XENO 2 ... AM WAITING FOR YOU MY DEAR....!

By all indications Nintendo are in trouble concerning the Wii U...I haven't seen as much negativity about a console from developers since the initial years after the launch of the PS3, what's different however is that we know the Wii U will not show promise in the future do to it's outdated tech, and with the competition being more advanced Nintendo are in a bad spot from a console manufacturing stand point (NOTE: I am not saying financially because the Big N has the money to compete but just choose not to)

You buy a WiiU to play Nintendo games, not 3rd party. I really don't know why this is always in the news. It's been the case with the Gamecube (to a lesser extent), definitely for the Wii, DS, 3DS, and now WiiU.

People who buy Nintendo products buy them for first party games. They don't give a crap about 3rd party games because whatever 3rd party titles there are, no one buys them.

The main problem I have with the Wii U is that for me, the looks has such a non-premium feeling.. Sony and Microsoft always has a premium device, but this time around, Nintendo has really screwed up.

Edit: Non-premium goes for most games out now. It is 2013, we shouldn't get games at 720p 30 fps anymore.

I don't care what Nintendo fans say...the WiiU IS in trouble.

What made the Wii successful was it was a console that specifically targeted the casual market and its games and marketing supported that.

What would have made the WiiU successful was one of 2 things. Continuing to really hammer on the casual market with simple game play mechanics that were easy to understand from a TV spot (the WiiU pad isnt casual friendly at a glance). OR creating a machine that really was going to be a technical powerhouse with what was under the hood. They did neither.

Casuals see the WiiU pad, the mixed messaging about what the system actually is. And the hardcore gaming market knows the WiiU is just a beefed up PS3/360. Couple that with absolutely NOTHING getting released out on the system week in and week out and there is little incentive for anyone to pick up a WiiU.

I am not even sure at this point price would sway more buyers. I think the biggest problem is the WiiU falls into a slot in the console space that didn't need a console and there is little incentive to make someone consider it.

No future for this console.

Ha ha. I guess that's why johnny nintendo flipped out the other day and punched that dude in the face. "We will make a console for the hardcore gamer,...this tablet is your controller."

That is so straight forward & funny as hell. At least he was honest . ( For some reason this feels so Déjà vu but this time it the developer's speaking )

In that case all consoles are gathering dust to them because they haven't released a game in years (unless they made a downloadable one that I don't know about).

the moment I saw this on a certain website I knew it'll become a trend on N4G and it surely did

Wii is like leapfrog. Sucks. Its ugly. Fucking lacking.

Huh, just like my Wii U...

I'm so upset with having bought the Wii U. I really thought it would have some 3rd party support, FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR (2013), and put me over until the PS4/Xbox. But it really hasnt done anything for me, except collect dust.

People suggest games like Monster Hunters 3, which looks like a Wii/3DS game for christ sake, not NEXT GEN! (which I do consider the Wii U part of)
Xeno ain't much to look forward to either, I want some 3rd party stuff!!!

(I know I'll not get that, which is why it's listed for sale on craigslist)

Edit: just saw the Shadow of Eternal trailer, not bad..

thinks of the " Has The Wii U already won the next gen?" articles and laugh

Wii ? No U

Damn.. Thats pretty blunt.. 3rd party games being plentiful on there is slim to none.. A harsh reality that nintendo fans need to deal with..

Its just a waterfall of bad news for this console

Just be patient....watch Nintendo come back, just like they did with the 3DS

Ill be picking one up for when the WindWaker remake comes out but Nintendo really need to get these 3rd parties on board but with the PS4 and the next Xbox coming out Its going to be an uphill battle.

I'm assuming then, they want to develop for PS4 and Xbox Fusion

Yeah, I'm starting to believe Nintendo really fucked themselves this time. All lot of recent news saying the Wii U isn't powerful and have no plans to develop games is just bad.

I'm wondering how Nintendo will handle this. They will have to rely on first party games and they got to bring out a lot if there getting less third party support.

Sale figure for Activision's Black ops 2 console wise:
XBox 360 12.09 Millions
PS3 10.08 Millions
WiiU 0.18 Millions

Now who wants to make games for WiiU.

* source vgchartz.com

did anyone actually think the wii U would make a decent 3rd party box? I thought it would have a few big hitter like tomb raider and gta but once the next gen systems arrived... well look at it this way. The ps3/360 have numbers, the ps4/720 have power. the Wii U has neither :(

I've pretty much surrendered the idea that Nintendo would ever get their third-party situation, especially with the West, in high gear. Nintendo consistently makes the same broken promises ("oh, we'll have third-parties on board", "oh, we won't have a drought", "oh, we won't overprice our system", etc.).

The Wii U constantly gets nothing but bad news. However, somehow I'm still enjoying my system. I know that I will not own a Wii U for third-party titles mainly. That's what a PS4 will be for (plus Sony's first-party delights). The Wii U will be a first-party box first and if a cool third-party game releases on it, I'll look into it.

Also, the person who said the Wii had only two games worth playing... Do you only play dudebro shooters or something? The Wii had great variety of genres and games, and "Nintendo games" does not count as a genre.

I can't understand why it's surprising to some. Since the Gamecube, Nintendo has repeated the same business model every generation.

Weak third party relations, and solely reliant on their own IP's to sell yesterdays technology to the die hard and curious.

How is it Nintendo are so successful with handhelds, but not with consoles?

Why are people freaking out over this?

A.) This is ONE developer.
B.) They said it's because the system "has a small install base." So that means that when the Wii U's sales pick up, then we could see them start developing.
C.) The Wii U already has a nice sleuth of confirmed games coming:

- Rayman Legends
- Project CARS
- The Wonderful 101
- Bayonetta 2
- Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
- Batman Arkham Origins
- Deus EX: Human Revolution
- Watch_DOGS
- Shadow of the Eternals
- New 3D Mario
- New 3D Mario Kart
- Smash Bros. 4
- Wind Waker HD
- Yarn Yoshi
- . . . (New Announcements)
- A plethora of indie games.

~ Keep calm and wait. It isn't the end of the world.

I don't see why this is a surprise, the WiiU is following the same exact path as the Wii except the WiiU has a less interesting gimmick.

LOL

I agree with that. Nintendo didn't bother with a hard drive, online is so-so.

Hopefully Nintendo will learn from this and nextgen compete specwise with the PS5 and Xbox 1080

All signs point to another Gamecube.

Just accept it.

I could frankly care less about how well the console does in sales it is Nintendo they have so many amazing franchises they can bust out. Mario, Zelda, DK, Kirby, Metroid, Pikmin, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Star Fox, Kid Icarus, Yoshi's Island, Punch out, Paper Mario. Also if they made another Xenoblade and Eternal Darkness that would be amazing. I said it years ago, Eternal Darkness with the Wii heart monitor would be the best survival horror game ever. Also Monster Hunter on the Wii U looks amazing.

Seriously the dreamcast failed in sales but can you honestly say it didn't have good games, because it had enough to make it worth the price tag. Same thing with a gamecube, the PS3 also took a long time to get rolling but once it did it probably has the best library of games this gen.

For the start Nintendo should have choosed other name rather instead WiiU.

I don t think a PS4 would sell much if it was called PS3-U .Consumers would think it was some thing like an add on such 32X from Sega s Genesis console.

TIme for Nintendo to quit making casual consoles. The Wii was a one off. Casuals have moved on to iPhones,iPads etc for their casual games.

Maybe they should pull a SEGA and just start making games for other platforms.

Seriously all this proves is that the Wii itself was a fad item. the ONLY reason it sold so well was because it was the new hot "tickle me elmo". people that were not and still are not gamers bought it up played with it for a week and then stuffed it into the closet pulling it out on occasion.

if it wasnt for all those non gamers buying it just cause everyone of their yuppy friends had one then we wouldnt even be talking about it right now.

LOL @ people defending a dieing breed

@Knushwood Butt

WHy dont we?

According to the same source, call of duty black ops declassified stands at 0.70m and the sad thing is that game really sucks in comparison.

This is a very contreversial excuse that Avalanche is giving. I can see where these guys are coming from - They simply don't want to spend a plethora of cash on a system with a very little amount of users. That's understandable,since money is hard to come by these days. BUT ~ by forefitting to make games for the Wii U isn't doing ANYTHING to help increase that small install base.

It's a circular trap. Software sells hardware.

~ No hardware sales = No software.
~ No software = No hardware sales.

See how that goes? Someone needs to break that trap - which in this case, is Nintendo's duty. They do plan to revive the Wii U from the Summer on-ward, starting with the release of Pikmin 3. By the end of the year, the Wii U should have at least 6 million+ units sold (from since release) - hopefully.

At the end of the day ~ It really isn't the end of the world. All consoles go through this "infancy drought" stage, but they pick up eventually. You don't have to look to far back in history to see that. Just look at PS3 and 3DS. Both were "too expensive" at the time, and didn't have any games worth playing. That's exactly how most feel about the Wii U. So, both of their owners decided to drop the price a bit, and they released a few quality titles and BOOM. Now look at them? 3DS and PS3 are dominating the charts right now.

The Wii U could see a similar future. Once Nintendo gives it that push, it's release schedule could be like the 3DS - Heavily saturated.

It's not the end of the world, people . . .

ouch.

I looks like devs want a more powerful console from nintendo to run there next gen engines on. If nintendo releases a new model of the wii u with better specs devs would be satisfied.

Oh man I'm having flashbacks of the Saturn & Dreamcast. I really don't want to another of the original's to fall. It's like Nintendo's greatest strength is becoming it's own weakness.

It's got great 1st party games. But at the same time if things keep escalating rapidly, they'll only great first party games to support them.

It's a deadly catch 22 and I'm sure how they'll get out of it if things continue as they are.

Maybe they should make a next gen machine now.

why wii u?

Hard lesson for Nintendo to learn, casual gamers are not loyal gamers, so old Wii owners don't care about the WiiU, they have their Ipads and Iphones instead by now, next time create a real hardcore gamers console, that where your fans are.

from a business stand point the touch controller for wii u should have came out for the wii as a accessory. the wii u should have been comparable to pc games in todays market and developers would want to develop for it. Just because CALL OF DUTY players want the same game over and over again makes you think console owners want the same console over and over again lol!!!!

HILARIOUS.....slap in the face if you ask me.what was nintendo thinking when they designed the wiiu?

lol my wii u is collecting dust but i will only use it to play nintendo games because no trophy support. i prefer trophies for multiplats so i can collect/lvl up like an RPG

I really hope Nintendo doesn't fade from the console market,
I won't be purchasing a WiiU though.

If they can get together a proper next gen console to compete with PS4 & 720, then I'd be glad.

Personally, I'd prefer if Microsoft just stuck to PC gaming so Nintendo & Sony can balance each other out, like it used to be.
When you have too much competition, it becomes problematic for us & for them.

i just would like to ask mr iwata where is all the wii sales money???