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Why Microsoft Will Win The Next Generation

Microsoft have always been a contending force in the gaming industry, ever since they emerged onto the scene with the original Xbox in the early 2000’s. While the original Xbox wasn’t nearly as successful as the PS2, it held its own and pushed forward, creating amazing titles such as Halo, and with Xbox Live, becoming the dominant online gaming system, a title that still holds true to this day. With all this in mind, I am predicting that Microsoft will have the best selling, most popular system next generation. Why? Read on to find out.

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ShugaCane4735d ago

Which paragraph was not sarcastic ? I probably missed it.

majiebeast4735d ago

"It’s not just RPG’s either. Look at Forza. Forza 2 sold over 2 million, Forza 3 sold almost 3 million, and Forza 4 sold almost 2 million. Compared to the likes of Gran Turismo, which sold a little over 2 million overall. Or, compare it to the likes of Motorstorm. The original Motorstorm sold 1.5 Million, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift didn’t even crack half a million, and Motorstorm: Apocalypse never even touched a quarter million."

I would say so or this guy is huffing too much paint thinner.

NeverEnding19894735d ago

Damage control! Save it for the 21st you guys (every person commenting so far).

majiebeast4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

XBOX DEFENSE FORCE ASSEMBLE!

Only Neverending,Green and Jekporkins show up.

Jekporkins logic MURICA is the world.

Lucreto4735d ago

GT 4 sold 2.25m in the US. 4.24m in Europe with a total for 8.89m globally.

Forza 2 sold 4.00m
Forza 3 sold 5.36m
Forza 4 sold 3.95m
Forza: Horizon sold 1.34m so far

If it funny how he ignores Europes figures. GT is a huge franchise in Europe which he seems to ignore.

MikeMyers4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

People need to consider that this is obviously in relation to the U.S.A. All the sales the writer used were not worldwide. In that case Microsoft could do good again in that area. It will be interesting if they even launch the new system in Japan? They just don't like the Xbox brand from the very beginning, doubtful that will change unless they bought Sega, Namco and Capcom. Even then they'd have a tough time.

I imagine this topic will gain lots of traction. Anytime the console wars is outlined in the topic people have knee-jerk reactions.

darthv724735d ago

does each generation have to be about platforms winning and losing?

What happened to the gamers winning from having so many great titles to play from?

Autodidactdystopia4735d ago

Shit no one won this generation. This will be debated for years to come. yet still you all come with your facts and custom perspective to try to reason with people on the internet...

HAHA have fun arguing with a brick wall.

MikeMyers4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

@darth
"why...
does each generation have to be about platforms winning and losing?"

They don't. The real winners are the ones who play any game they choose regardless of which system it's on. I guess some people need to validate their purchase more than others.

Some see it as a sports team cheering them on. How can anyone actually cheer a company on like a sports team? Sony and Nintendo come from Japan, is this an East versus West sports team? I don't know of too many sports teams that have that many of the same players, do you? If 80% (just a guess) of the games on the PS3 and Xbox 360 are the same, play the same, and look the same how can one cheer one more than the other?

It's no secret the worst fans are the Xbox 360 and PS3 camp. Arguing for years over nothing. All because they are marketing the same gamer and each trying to get the others fanbase to cross over. I would like to see more separation from them next generation. You don't need two platforms that are going for the same customer. That's why it's good having Nintendo around. They try to go in a different direction but even they know the importance of 3rd party content. Sadly they just won't be able to compete in that area moving forward. Most of those publishers will not fully exploit the Wii U or even bother releasing games on it.

This is why all eyes will be on the next Xbox. People want to see just how much it will compete with the PS4. Sony fans are waiting anxiously and will put a damper on it as much as they can until then. Xbox 360 fans are excited and also apprehensive. They too want to know what direction Microsoft will take. I have a feeling it will be just like the current generation. Both battling over the same consumer and each side will argue again and declare their system the winner because to some there has to be a winner.

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GalacticEmpire4735d ago

I think he may be serious guys, I'm scared for him.

lol it's pretty funny though, I've read more logical and informed fanboy rants here on N4G.

showtimefolks4735d ago

Lol ok is this meant to be a joke? How did this get approved?

Gt5 is almost or over 10 million
Gt5:p was a demo that sold over 5 million

So one demo and game sold more than lifetime sales of Forza series

Also what does winning mean? This gen ps3 outsold xbox360 from day one yet everyone overlooks that. Ps3 had the best and most exclusive games but guess what 3 games from MS are better than 10-13 different gaming series from Sony

Seriously atleast try. Why can't people accept the fact we had 3 successful consoles?

Next gen we will again have 3 consoles that will sell 50 plus million

So why does one has to win the gen? Competition is the reason Sony brought out so much firepower so if you think that MS winning next gen is so good than get use to halo,forza and gears and not much else

Jek-porkins

Well so the author is giving sale numbers for forza for world wide yet giving sale number for GT only in the USA? How does that make sense? GT or any racing game does better in Europe than here in th US.

Stop trying to defend stealth trolling by this author

Tombinator4735d ago

10 million? I think maybe you might be fluffing those numbers a little don't you think? So didn't you kinda just do the same thing the author did?

ThatCanadianGuy5144735d ago

It was at 9+ million in 2012.I don't imagine it just stopped selling for no reason.

10+ mill isn't farfetched.

Tombinator4735d ago

So basically you guys guess or make up numbers then complain about other people doing the same?

That sounds sooooo Republican

showtimefolks4735d ago

Tombinator

Maybe just maybe you should google world wide sales for GT5, which were confirmed by Sony at over 9 million in 2012

Life time sales at 68 plus million for series, so yeh we make up numbers GT5 at launch did 7 million

Research some before blaming others

Also maybe forza team can learn something about giving some free DLC like PD has done with GT5. Big updates were released long after release and big improvements were made

Now forza is also a great series IMO

I believe GT can learn something from Forza when it comes to onlin community features and Forza can learn that SIM racing is suppose to be SIm not mixture of SIM and Arcady

Dark_Overlord4735d ago

I'd say its pretty possible GT5 has sold over 10 million copies.

As of Sep 2012 GT5 sold 9.19m

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...

Its now May 2013, that's 8 months later, so it is entirely feasible :)

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dedicatedtogamers4735d ago

Articles like this are why I tend to hate the Xbox culture. I'm not singling out individuals, just the overall culture.

See, I don't know if Microsoft will win next gen. They might! Honestly, they really might!

However, why should we give a flying ****? This isn't 2008. Playing the sales game was cute for a few years. Now it's boring.

Microsoft has more important issues on the table like their reduction of hardcore exclusives, their backing out on being THE Jrpg console like they first attempted, hiking the cost of XBL without adding any significant features, their shift of focus to the casual crowd, their shift in focus to being a "media center", their lack of investment in new game engines or new IPs or new middleware for developers, their backing out on being THE indie console like they attempted, the possibility that they'll DRM-lock every game you buy with an always-online requirement, whether or not they'll repeat their accessory price hiking with the NextBox like they did with the 360...the list goes on.

And yet, the Xbox crowd feels the desperate, desperate need to announce to the world "hey guize! MS gonna win next gen! XBLA 4EVR BROS!"

darthv724735d ago

your dislike for the xbox culture didnt take an article to reveal that. You willingly showed it through the body of your post.

you have to understand that the delusional dont speak for the rational. There are just as delusional fans of one side as there are another.

It takes great restraint and character to stand in the middle and not let either side get to you.

I enjoy the industry as a whole and feel very fortunate to be able to participate with those who can embrace both the good with the bad. It cant always be one side or the other. There has to be a balance.

mayberry4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

@dedicatedtogamers- Well said.

Tetsujin4735d ago

@ Dedicated

I agree 100%; it was funny and entertaining with the whole "Sales" arguments however anymore it's rehashed arguments, and "What if" statistics. I've mentioned multiple times; all these people arguing over sales must be share holders in these companies because that's all they talk about anymore. I remember when 100K was good to sell a game, now if something doesn't break 2+ million opening night (According to the fanbase) it's considered a failure; yet the company themselves says they made profit, however the conspiracy theorists will argue "invalid information."

nukeitall4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

@dedicatedtogamers:

I find it ironic and hipocritical of you to call out one side, while ignoring the other such as Sony or Nintendo (whom essentially is barely doing anything at all).

Let's face it, you know virtually nothing about the next Xbox nor how MS shift (assuming it happens) will affect the core games.

You should really look at the facts:

"their reduction of hardcore exclusives,"

But those few IPs are heavy hitting, indicating demand as it is.

"their backing out on being THE Jrpg console like they first attempted,"

The sales were abysmal. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and ask why?

"hiking the cost of XBL without adding any significant features,"

One word, "inflation" and no, MS did introduce a lot more features such as beacon, internet explorer, party chat, and so on.

Also, MS actually pays employees to monitor the network and report to consumers, has their own division to manage the Xbox Live community that you yourself can reach. That is a huge cost, and I don't see the competitor have that.

"their shift of focus to the casual crowd,"

Whoever MS focuses on isn't really important. In the end, it is what they offer i.e. if they offer me plenty of games and want to expand their casual audience, why is that a problem?

That is just a fanboy excuse.

"their lack of investment in new game engines or new IPs or new middleware for developers"

That is completely false as MS has the most built out API of the three console manufacturers for just about anything and they are very convenient to use. Why do you think it is easier to program for?

Let me put it like this, the documentation isn't in Japanese (if it even exist on other consoles), and there are hooks for everything.

MS sends out engineers and put their teams on helping third party. Sony didn't do this until competitive pressure appeared from MS.

I cannot see how you are saying MS isn't developing middleware or investing in new game engines.

New IPs has been funded by MS through third party developers with some success i.e. Alan Wake for instance, but consumers just prefer sequels. If you look at MS new IP strategy and to some extent Sony't they haven't been that successful.

If you care about games, you should care about how the business operates as well. If business don't succeed, then there are no games either!

nukeitall4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

"their backing out on being THE indie console like they attempted,"

so what?

Why aren't you asking why isn't Sony or Nintendo doing *anything* at all about indie games?

Just one fact proves this:

Who but MS has free development tools and self publishing rights, complete self-ownership of ip and self pricing control for $100?

Sony? Nope, requires several thousand dollar dev kit if Sony deems you worthy. Nintendo? Nope, even more strict!

This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda.

"the possibility that they'll DRM-lock every game you buy with an always-online requirement,"

This is just a rumor, that has internal emails leaked that shows that this is false, but people would rather censor that and want you to believe that isn't the case:

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

In fact, at this point it is Sony who has flip flopped on the issue, but nobody talks about that.

In the media MS has received some serious bad press due to a *rumor*.

"whether or not they'll repeat their accessory price hiking with the NextBox like they did with the 360."

MS offers their stuff at whatever the market can bear and that is important, because MS needs to fund their business like every one else.

However, the same question applies to Sony as well, such as the memory card for PS Vita or the exorbitant price for PSP Go.

... or why isn't the Playstation crowd asking, why is there a need for 8GB GDDR5 or how much is that cost especially if I might not need it?

Point being, you set yourself on one side, complaining about the other and in some cases ignoring facts!

In addition, the problem isn't MS. They are doing exactly what the market wants. I'm sorry, but MS isn't in to the niche sales thing, and I doubt Sony is either. They just haven't shown their hands yet!

dedicatedtogamers4734d ago

@ nuketail

While I'm flattered by not one, but two gigantic posts in response to my own, you'll notice that this article is about Microsoft, Microsoft's future plans, and no one else's.

Here's a tip: first to scream "fanboy" loses. And guess what? You lost already.

nukeitall4734d ago

@dedicatedtogamers:

Ah, I see. You are one of them people without a proper response, then just claim victory.

I guess you win, because I got baited into thinking you were serious at debating, but instead trolled me into wasting my time. Well played!

That's ok, you go hang out with your biased friends here on n4g patting each other on the back. The rest of the world moves on as nothing ever happened.

MrBeatdown4732d ago (Edited 4732d ago )

"Why aren't you asking why isn't Sony or Nintendo doing *anything* at all about indie games?

Just one fact proves this:

Who but MS has free development tools and self publishing rights, complete self-ownership of ip and self pricing control for $100?

Sony? Nope, requires several thousand dollar dev kit if Sony deems you worthy. Nintendo? Nope, even more strict!

This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda."

****

I know this is a little old, but wow. This is some funny stuff.

Nuke demands some response to his two comment term paper, but he doesn't even have his facts right.

Just this week, Sony lowered their PS Mobile fee to ZERO from $100.

And they have the pub fund program, in which they pay developers royalties up front to support indie game development.

Hell, just this week, the PS Blog previewed three or four indie games.

But no... Nuke acts like Sony does nothing. There's only one explanation for his comments...

"This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda."

Sounds like he "sets himself on one side, complaining about the other and in some cases ignoring facts!"

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Retroman4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

"WHY MICROSOFT WILL WIN NEXT GEN."

have we not heard enough of this saying??
6 months behind Sony ps4 announcement and we get this
SERIOUSLY??? must be slow day at the office again.

AngelicIceDiamond4735d ago

Hate these articles no matter what side. I guess its somewhat "refreshing" sorta speak that its the other console for change.

It might be a while until Wii U gets one unfortunately. Sony and hopefully MS will have stopping power come next gen.

Both need to survive to satisfy my and other gamers needs.

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antbolton894735d ago

Time to wake up and stop dreaming

NameRemoved00174735d ago

The failbox running a rundown version of windows 8 with online 24/7 and kinect required to be used. Have fun, I'll stick with PC.

jmac534735d ago

Always online required was debunked today.
http://arstechnica.com/gami...
But if course you don't see this anywhere on N4G.

DragonKnight4735d ago

@jmac53: That was an official confirmation, that was an anonymous source. Therefore, not debunked and the real reason why it's not on N4G.

GamersRulz4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

an article full of lies...that's not even funny.

WKC sold less than 250K!
Demon's Souls didn't hit 1 million!

and the big on:

Gran Turismo 5 Sold 2 million only!!!!

What a load of crap!

Jek_Porkins4735d ago

Maybe he means in North America? If you trust VGChartz, it has GT5 at 2.25 million in North America.

IRetrouk4735d ago (Edited 4735d ago )

Then why mention worldwide numbers for forza? Even though those numbers are slightly wrong too.

Edit for spelling mistake

P_Bomb4735d ago

He probably means "in the USA", but he never says that though. He says "compared to the likes of Gran Turismo, which sold a little over 2 million overall".

Overall.

Well, no. Overall GT5 sold 9 million + http://www.polyphony.co.jp/... . If that's even the Gran Turismo he's referring to. The article as a whole is misrepresentation run wild. One could just as easily write the same article using Japanese numbers in lieu of American and come to opposite conclusions. Suddenly Demons Souls outsells Fable 3 by a 7-1 ratio. Heck, suddenly Yakuza 4 outsold Halo 4 by 12-1. Dalton's deliberately spinning fractions. Meh article.

spongeboob4735d ago

The author doesn't seem very smart. To date GT5 has sold over 9 million units globally.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...

Karpetburnz4735d ago

And that was recorded last year, GT5 could possibly be at 10 million sold by now.

R_aVe_N4735d ago

Wow this article is so full of fail I don't even know if he was being serious or not. Either he is just trolling or on some really good drugs.

Mariusmssj4735d ago

I beg of you, every blogger out there keep your opinions to yourself until both consoles are out. You got no idea what PS4 can do nor what Next Xbox will so please STOP.

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We Are Xbox

Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Itveds12h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster300012h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

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Eonjay8h ago

Even when the topic is strictly Xbox he can't stop talking about PlayStation. Xbox has basically become the hate of PlayStation... and not much else.

peppeaccardo1h ago

This whole mess is the result of bad decisions and strategy from those who have "the vision" inside the company.

pwnmaster300012h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

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GhostScholar10h ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot11h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar10h ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

darthv723h ago

FWIW..... wasn't the new management speaking to the other staff.... not so much us (regular folk)?

CrashMania11h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai10h ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

Profchaos7h ago

I don't know if they have a model anymore it's flipped so many times since the xbox one reveal

TriniOutsider9h ago

It must be miserable being someone like you.

Aloymetal9h ago

There's a bunch just like him but that's what happens when some rely on dreams, hope and wishful thinking. lol

isarai_lee9h ago

"pretending"? Bro gears hasnt broke 1mil on ps5, and starfield hasn't passed 200k, Hellblade 2 was even stated to be a financial disappointment in sales on its own console, let alone ps5. Im not saying people don't like them, but they certainly aren't setting the community on fire, Forza may be different tho

Neonridr8h ago

Forza broke 5 million on PlayStation. So yes. And there's a new one coming soon.

badz14938m ago

if only they make a real physical version of those games, especially Gears, it would have sold more on PS5

Aloymetal9h ago

Xbawx is ''re-evaluating exclusivity''... Translation: After throwing all sort of crap to the wall to see if something sticks but clearly nothing worked, we, including our lord ''in charge'' Phil came to the conclusion that exclusives indeed do matter so please forget if we ever said otherwise.
Yup, I feel it in my gut, next gen belongs to xbox, PS6 is cooked...

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1Victor8h ago

Someone can’t sleep after those 5 million forza games PURCHASED by PlayStation owners🤣 🧌 💥

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Extermin8or3_6h ago

Well with the decreased price of gamespass even with cod off it there is no way it is profitable given the cost of making their 1st party games (not if you actually include that cost in gamespass costs which they typically dont but should) they will just make a loss without the sales on

Xx_Pistol_xX4h ago

They don't hate the games. They hate the box.

DazaMc2h ago

Forza just sold five million copies on PS5, they have a taste for it now.

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Outside_ofthe_Box12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300011h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv723h ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

Itveds11h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

Outside_ofthe_Box10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Funny world where Sony is pro consumer and Xbox is not? At least according to what you loyalists have been saying all this time 🤭

VenomUK9h ago

@itveds For how many years have you been doing this sad stuff? For how many years have you been creating fake accounts to troll? For how many years have you always been cl vnn

fr0sty7h ago

Pathetic incels with nothing better to do than argue over a box... Because they don't have any good games to play on theirs, obviously. If your precious box is so special, why don't you shut the fuck up and go play it?

Elda1h ago

Sony exclusives will always be better than anything XB puts out.

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CrashMania11h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

Neonridr8h ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box5h ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Pyrofire956h ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv723h ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

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maximusprime_11h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted9h ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania7h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

shadowT11h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers10h ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14934m ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

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Forza Horizon 5 hits 5M sales on PS5, likely ending the era of Xbox-exclusive blockbuster titles

Forza Horizon 5 hits 5M sales on PS5, providing yet another reason for Xbox to not return to console exclusives in the future

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Itveds13h ago

Turns out PS gamers were pretty desperate for Xbox games all along

tay870113h ago

They published 12 games on ps last, 9 of them were massive flops. Only CoD and Forza were big hits. Oblivion sold decently. Sounds like for the most part, we don't want your crap. Lol

Itveds12h ago

So they should go back to exclusivity?

Cacabunga3h ago

I’m looking forward to South of midnight.

badz14932m ago

@itveds

by all means...PLEASE make Xbox exclusive games again!

xHeavYx13h ago

Dude, how many more alternate accounts are you going to create? Get a life

dveio12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

At this point in time, to me it's definitely clear we're dealing with an ill mentally conditioned person here.

(Not being meant sarcastic, but like I have to be aware of it.)

At least in this regard of creating hundreds of accounts in an online community that's discussing videogames (it could be any other theme than videogaming, too).

Never thought Obscure would be going THAT far. Ofc I perceived him as a certified Xbox fan, but I never thought that he couldn't let go and dump this site with hundreds of accounts only to compensate the deep fall of Xbox.

... when he could just say: "Yup, I was wrong."

1Victor11h ago

Dude, how many more alternate accounts are you going to create? Get a life
.
He think they work like the apple saying 🤦🏿🤣

raWfodog7h ago

@dveio
“At this point in time, to me it's definitely clear we're dealing with an ill mentally conditioned person here.”

That’s why don’t even reply to any of their posts. It’s useless engaging with that person because it’s just feeding into obscurity :)

The account is always going to get flagged as spam anyway so all comments that replied to that account will disappear. Everyone should just ignore them and hopefully one day they will go away forever.

Elda2h ago

Their true account was probably banned & this is what they do even when it gets spammed each & every time that they'll create a new account to troll. It's evident this individual is miserable & has mental illness.

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Hypertension14012h ago

Forza is the reason I got an series x in the first place, so this doesn't surprise me. Don't care for their other IPs.

JEECE12h ago

MS game comes out on PS5 and sells poorly?

"So I guess all the PS Gamers were lying when they said they were the ones who actually buy games!"

MS game comes out on PS5 and sells well?

"See? PS Gamers were totally desperate for games because they don't have anything."

1Victor11h ago

Copy paste comment 🤣now that’s classic 🧌 obscured tactic

Itveds11h ago

Triggered. You’re going to have to buy an Xbox now!

1Victor11h ago

295 days of 2-3 new accounts daily when will you get tired obscured and recognize that the war is over and it’s time to rest

Cacabunga3h ago

Sounds like a good comfort for you…

Elda2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Never bought a XB game to play on my PS5 Pro & I never will. Saros next week!

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Jigga6913h ago

Good news, MS will give all their games on PlayStation.

kpgs13h ago

Better news, I don't need to buy an xbox to play xbox games.

Reaper22_13h ago

Neither do I. But they'll take your money too.

Itveds12h ago

“I’ll teach Xbox a lesson by… giving them my money”

Yeah boy. You sure showed them!

kpgs12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I don't have any problem giving xbox my money. As long as I get something in return. I have a problem with getting an xbox console who's sole purpose it to collect dust because I already have a PS5 Pro. And when all their games are coming to PS5.

Itveds11h ago

Well now they’re back to exclusives you’ll have to buy an Xbox 🤷

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Itveds12h ago

They just announced they’re re-evaluating exclusivity

So apparently not

DoubleYourDose11h ago

Please get mental health help! You seriously need an intervention.

kpgs11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

@Itveds why do I need to listen to you? You just said they're re-evaluating. It's not 100% guaranteed. Also, let's be real. Why would you stop selling on a platform that sells 5 million copies.

Itveds12h ago

Xbox just announced they are re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster300012h ago

This hurt you doesn’t it lol
Believe it or not actual gamers who like games heavily outnumber crazy fanboys like you.
So if any game sells million on either console that was once exclusive, don’t be surprise, that’s what REAL gamers do.

Itveds12h ago

It’s hilarious how PS folk pretended for years they didn’t like Xbox games

Just to turn around and buy a fuckton of them such as Forza and starfield 😂

pwnmaster300012h ago

N4G isn’t PS folks.
Get a life dude.
You 30+ years old and still have a mindset of a kid.
Your like the guy who is stuck in the past of glory days.

Xbox is done, it will always be 3rd place. It’s okay go rest man 🤣🤣🫵 27997;

Itveds11h ago

Just like PlayStation wil never be 1st

Long live the king Nintendo!

Eonjay11h ago

Xbox has to be more than just hating on PlayStation or PlayStation gamers.

Destiny108012h ago

this checks out, there's about 5 million xbox gamers on playstation

Aloymetal11h ago

That's about to change, haven't you heard?? According to some minority group they say that everyone will jump ship and get on board the project: ''fix it Felix'' aka the next xbawx because is going to decimate PS6, we just need to wait for next gen...

Itveds11h ago

Sony fans love Xbox games. More than Sony first party like Saros!

RIP

LordStig12h ago

Bet it made more money on Playstation as well. Because Triple A, Gamepass, Day one, One dollar.

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