and still have no Idea that there are 3 different ones. I believe the shortages were of the Elites, which everybody wants, and the pros not the arcade. My roomate got one over winter break and he had to get the ugly halo one cause he couldent find the elite or the pro. While I dont know that the shortage was that serious I DO ACTUALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO COULDENT GET THE ONE THEY WANTED and think that sales most defiantly would have been better had they had more elites or premiums instead of alot of arcades. But really I dont care if they have a shortage or not and it seems that alot of people just want to cry "microsoft is lyers, buy a PS3." Time to get the memo that the only thing thats going to get ps2/xbox1 users(me duh) to get a ps3 is GAMES. Not RROD, not microsoft lying, and not 360 shortages(my roomate had a ps2 only and got an ugly, really fuc&ing ugly, 360 over a ps3).

So now it's retailers that want more than they have to supply? LOL!!! I mean really? I would have believed them if this was post holiday 2006 sale, because the 360 totally domniated holiday 2006 and the month on end. and they had software droughts and such with gears being the real console seller. but this was fine and dandy because they were out selling sony's next gen. Now come 2007 holiday and yes the demand was raised by 25% but they still sold less in 2007 than they did id 2006, so how the hell do you come out of a strong 2006 selling well domniating all year long with no shortages what so ever, all your manufacturing issues with console supply a thing of the past, going through 2007 selling well with an amazing line up of software which was it's pinnacle and sold amazingly in september and october with Halo 3, and bioshock, and PGR4, and COD4 and still end up selling 7.5 million just 3 million shy of last years Total with 10 million in that same period, only to end up with shortages in 2008 from your sopposed strong selling period?

After being in the market a year ahead of everyone with time to work out your supply constrainst. but since sony suddenly started out selling in the US it's a shortage. The last strong hold you had went under 2 months straight and you call it a "hollow victory" because your supply chain wasn't up to par, yet you sold 3 million less in 2007 verses than 2006, with better software than the competion this year than last year?

I think MS had a shortage alright, they had a shortage on Good excusses, because this is totally unsounded and is a pure and true example of a sore sore looser.

Own up to loosing, Sony has been doing that for the longest since this gen of Hardware start, and now they are turning the corner and beating you and you wanna say "My Pu$$y hurts" now when you were winnig all along.

Please explain MS why we never got that Shortage response from you when Nintendo totally lapped you and became the fastest and best selling console, was it because you arent competing with them and sony is who you are going after or is it because you were still selling better than Sony at the time the Wii eclipsed your sales and then passed you out?

Shortages are to reflect demand with you selling more and running out. Sales would have increased as the Wii has been doing consecutively since it's time on market. as it stands the only Console on shortages is the Wii and we can see that because they're are weeks when they less than the PS3 and then get bolsted by nintendo the following week.

It's as I've been saying those who want the 360 are getting it, But they also want a PS3 more than ever, Things have just changed for that to take place, it's cheaper, it's more reliable and it's software this year is far more amazing than MS's 2007. Not to mention it's due to get even more affordable this year, and the recent victory over the rival HD format. People want quality and they are seeing what was once too expensive is now in better reach for their desired entertainment.

I just wish MS would say ok we are behind so lets ensure our software offering can make a better dent in what sony is doing and suck it up.

I couldn't have said that any better. Please enjoy a bubble. God knows that since you're not speaking negative against the 360 you're going to need all the bubbles you can get...

@uxo22,yep its time for u to move on i think,you are the weakest link GOODBYE

ill only comment on the part about the negative 360 news. I am not blind to the glut of negative 360 news now nor was I blind the the glut of PS3 news before. If my memory serves me correct the recent negative news about the 360 has not even touched the amount of negative PS3 articles this site has aired. How i see it the rrod news has always been a constant but the ps3 had negative articles about Release delay, Price, Blu Ray, Lack of rumble, No games, Multiplats under performing, suspiciously low marks for exclusives, Ken leaving, Lack of Features ie ingame xmb, sony pr speak, Sales, PSN being free etc.

These articles were full of 360 'preferers' and there were wave after wave of attacks and defence from 360 and ps3 fans respectively. Now things have shifted in the PS3's favour its just the reverse of how it was back then and you either felt the pinch then or you'll feel the pinch now because of the console you prefer. Karma is a b*tch sometimes. If no humility was shown then what makes you think they'll be humility shown now.

-but it is impossible to state any form of opinion or fact, especially on a public forum, and not get into a flame war(differences of opinion will be fought to the end).

Now that's been said, I like to put my two cents in. I think anyone can be skeptical about MS's PR anouncement of shortages. Hell, even this articles writer starts off with a certian amount of skepticism about MS's claim, and even using words "appear to support", after producing the sales #'s. My opinion, is that there is something really wrong with the 360's manufacturing department. I mean, come on, they shipped over 10 million units their first full year. You can't tell me MS went from manufacturing 800,000 units a month to not even meet demand of under 600,000/mth. And this is even after their second year. You'd expect a major corp. like MS to be ramping up production and sales projections, not scaling them back.

Now, this brings me back to my original thought that there is something wrong in x-box land. I'm neither for or against the whole shortage issue. It could be 100% true, but I don't think MS is being forthright, as far why this occurred. Could it be replacing units due to the rrod issue is disrupting the manufacturing process. Microsoft
isn't that above everybody else that this becoming a huge public relations nightmare. They might have completely overhualed their manufacturing process, they've already changed disc drives, motherboards, smaller cpu's & gpu's, and putting that all into play on a mass scale takes time(time that would have been used to make x-boxs). This makes more sense to me than, the extra 400,000 we sold this christmas exceeded our projections bullsh@ they're trying to feed us. I just don't like being treated as if I'm stupid. In closing I hope my little rant brings something to the table, and doesn't rub to many people the wrong way(but i'm pretty sure it will). I look forward to your opinions on this matter.

Well said, but you know what. It really doesn't matter, it never has an never will on N4G. I wasn't feeling any pinch, I personally am going to benefit from whichever console does well because I own all three.

To put it in simple terms, I kinda like watch a basketball game where one team is purposefully running up the score. After the score have been run up too much, the crowds tends to from on the team that's running the score up. Other than that, they have no problem with that team at all.

I'm kinda burned out on n4g anyhow, so I bid you all a farewell for a few months or more. Enjoy.

Here's what is the frenzy: Microsoft is trying to do a CYA, not like what Sony tried to do when they were so far behind.

For one thing, and let me get this out of the way now, for you to come on here and label anyone who has a differencing opinion than your own a fanboy or a sh*t talker is way ignorant. No one claimed to exactly know the supply line of ANY manufacturer. But from common sense, we can see some various things that can tell us that something is off about the entire thing. But please listen to the other arguments before you start running your mouth. And for the love of GOD, PLEASE look about the site, too, and please introduce yourself to history. How many times has the PS3 been slammed by EVERYONE when it came out and for the first part of 07? EVERYONE was thinking that the PS3 was doomed. But no one really complained. However, now that the PS3 is getting some good press and the 360 is starting to see its momentum trailing off and they need to explain off this bad news that just keeps coming, you and those like you are suddenly like "how dare you post this and tell people about it." No, how dare YOU insist that we just ignore the 360 bad news and pretend it doesn't exist. Hell, I WAS one of those people that frowned when Sony wasn't doing anything right. Now that they FINALLY got their game face on, they seem to have the momentum, and the 360 is finding themselves trying to find the ladder out of the hole. Finally, yes, my blogs for a bit have been against the 360. However, this is not because I'm a PS3 fanboy (I'm not, by the way. Why would I still want to buy a 360, then?), but rather I'm using simple logic and common sense. Sorry, but that subtext of that line of thought really irked me to no end.

The last paragraph of that article had Michael Greenburg contradict himself, saying you could find a 360 anywhere these days but there is still a shortage somehow. What in the hell is he thinking to say something like that when he was doing so well in the interview. A HORRIBLE gaff (much like alot of other things MS has said lately). Even if there WAS a shortage, it never did explain off the bad sales. Nintendo has a Wii shortage every single DAY, yet you never see that lag off in sales. Plus, lost in all of this is the stuff about the games the PS3 will be getting this year. AGAIN, I stress that the PS3 has, right now, the strongest lineup of games for 08 that we should be seeing, with MGS4 topping the list. All the 360 has right now is the MULTIPLATFORM GTA4 and its so-called "exclusive episodes" that no one thinks will stay that way and that Rockstar tries to do the "quasi-confirm" method of PS3 episodes coming soon. GOW2 is basically what is left (someone said Ninja Gaiden 2, but that still doesn't change much about the strength). Plus, we can cook this up as the 13th straight spin/lie that Microsoft has told us about the 360 issues this last month or two.

So, yeah, again, all that aside, your assumption that all of this bad press is because every N4G user is a PS3 fanboy that is out to mess with the 360 is absurd and uncalled for. We're all independent minded people that can just use common sense when deciphering this stuff.

By the way, what's stopping you from posting anything or approving anything, for that matter? You know how to use the site, apparently. People can report stories just as easily. Why can't you learn THAT? You'd rather complain that nothing is going right for the 360 and that people are commenting and agreeing about that and that no one thinks exactly like you, huh?

dude seriously!!! bush is are president, so im pretty sure the world is filled with morons... but you need to learn to let a stupid people not affect you so much!!!

Do you remember when the PS3 was only 1-6 months old and almost every article on N4G were about the PS3's doom. 10 ways for Sony to revive the PS3.Blu a big mistake. PS3 a disaster. I for one knew this situation that we are in now would happen.I just didn't expect it to happen this soon.Instead of accusing x360 fans back then i tried my best to counter what was said. Please do the same.You know very well what i am talking about.

Halo 3 and Bioshock came out well before xmas. They never got the boost around that time that they expected they would get, so they had no reason to expect everyone that they planned for in the september boost would purchase one in november and december.

Why is that so unbelievable?

For one, I'm one of those people that gave your bubbles the "death penalty", but it's not because you had a pro-MS opinion. That is yours, and you are certainly entitled to it (though I doubt I will get through, since I now got two ignores, and I believe you're it).

The penalty, as you wanted to call it, is that you labeled EVERY SINGLE PERSON who dared to have a different opinion as a fanboy. For one, I have blasted PS3 fanboys, as well (you know the difference between those that generally think there's something wrong here and those that are being immature). You, sir, need to know the difference, which you obviously do not.

You should instead just read what is said. You expect that much from us, yet you obviously do not do that yourself.

Again, no, we are not criticizing your stance on whether or not MS did anything wrong or if what they are saying is the truth (which we can agree or disagree with what you have said and back that up). You have EVERY right to do that, and no one is stopping you from commenting on anything here. It's obvious that people are disagreeing with how you're labeling anything or anyone that disagrees with you as a fanboy, and condemning anyone who dares show anyone about the bad news that MS is going through right now. There are just so many dimensions in which your statement is so wrong, yet your reason why people think you're wrong IS what is false. That is the saddest. The fact that my comment to you was the last comment before I got the additional ignore on me and that you labeled me (from the notion that you mentioned that label without saying who it was that gave you the "death penalty") and and others that called you on your policing what opinions you want to be shown on this site as the "closet anarchy" is not only wrong and immoral, it's also UNAMERICAN! You are right now to this site as what Donald Rumsfeld was in 06 to anyone that opposed the Iraq War (read Olbermann's Truth or Consequences book to see what I'm talking about).

And by the way, I'm 25 with my birthday coming on April 13th. And I have been an avid gamer all my life, dating back to when I was TWO playing the Atari 2600 all my life. I have read SO many gaming sites, magazines, and have followed the gaming industry for the longest time. I have owned the NES, Super NES, the 7800, 2600, PS1, PS2, Gamecube, Wii, and the PS3, and I wanted to get the XBox, as well, until they came out with the 360 and knew that, at the time, it would have backward compatibility. So, in short, don't you DARE try to even hint at the thought that I do not know my way around gaming, or that I have no idea what I am talking about, or that I have diarrhea of the mouth just because I disagree with you. I can't speak for anyone else directly because I don't know their gaming experience, but I can tell you that, at least when it came to you, it is about the same way.

You told people that you were sick of people disagreeing with you and trashing the 360 when that wasn't the case, you never listened to anyone who dared to have a valid point or to challenge your claims, and when you DID listen, you dismissed them as a fanboy, or saying that they didn't want to hear what you were saying, all the while damning that people on this site have a different opinion than you, and damning those that called you on it. THAT WAS IT!! No one said you didn't have the right to say what you thought. They damned you saying that no one else is allowed to even SPEAK out against you. PLEASE realize where you are WRONG!!

Hopefully someone replies to this to show what I said (assuming it WAS you that ignored me).

...I meant that I have played video games my whole life, not the 2600 my whole life (don't think anyone would make that assumption, but I'm doing this just in case someone was thinking of it).

You're here 24 hours a day, with two different accounts to look like you're two different people and constantly ranting lies about ps3.

So tell me, WHO is the real "failer" here lol

Try getting an outdoor life before saying others "fail" Mr. man of many aliases

And just so you know, wood doesn't THINK you're the same people, he knows it.

WE all do

http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...

See that link with your IP sharing two separate names (POG and Mart). Next time you should try hiding your IP lol

thats because you live in the motha effin Netherlands!!! Never a shortage in Chi-Town

ive said this quite a few times before but unless the execs at microsoft didnt take a simple high school econmics class the shortage isnt real.. low supply+high demand=higher prices (for example, anyone else paying 3.35$ a gallon for gas?)so the converse is also true as well HIGH SUPPLY+LOW DEMAND=PRICE DROP.....now really what is microsoft really doing.........and this is just simple logic people....