yeah, many people fail to realise just how superior pes was to fifa in the ps2 days and before. however, as the new gen came along things changed with companies like EA benefiting and quickly adapting to the new tech.there is no doubt fifa is the better game now. the japanese games presence this gen is not as strong as it was in the previous gens, feels like a great void has opened that needs to be filled and hasn't.

The sad state of both games really, bold claims that leave us all wanting. For PES we've been hearing about some mystical engine ever since 2008 edition came out. On the flip side, it seems to be standard blurb by EA to constantly talk up the AI of the game yet every year it fails to deliver.

At least pes's new engine is coming for us to judge . But i dont trust the power technical shot and ai super team synergy crap you see from press announcement for fifa (nor pes)